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    Default The Dark Sucker Theory

    For years, it has been believed that electric bulbs emit light, but recent information has proved otherwise. Electric bulbs don't emit light; they suck dark. Thus, we call these bulbs Dark Suckers. The Dark Sucker Theory and the existence of dark suckers prove that dark has mass and is heavier than light.
    First, the basis of the Dark Sucker Theory is that electric bulbs suck dark. For example, take the Dark Sucker in the room you are in. There is much less dark right next to it than there is elsewhere. The larger the Dark Sucker is, greater its capacity to suck dark. Dark Suckers in the parking lot have a much greater capacity to suck dark than the ones in this room.
    So with all things, Dark Suckers don't last forever. Once they are full of dark, they can no longer suck. This is proven by the dark spot on a full Dark Sucker. The dark which has been absorbed is then transmitted by pylons along to power plants where the machinery uses fossil fuel to destroy it.
    A candle is a primitive Dark Sucker. A new candle has a white wick. You can see that after the first use, the wick turns black, representing all the dark that has been sucked into it. If you put a pencil next to the wick of an operating candle, it will turn black. This is because it got in the way of the dark flowing into the candle. One of the disadvantages of these primitive Dark Suckers is their limited range.
    There are also portable Dark Suckers. In these, the bulbs can't handle all the dark by themselves and must be aided by a Dark Storage Unit. When the Dark Storage Unit is full, it must be either emptied or replaced before the portable Dark Sucker can operate again.
    Dark has mass. When dark goes into a Dark Sucker, friction from the mass generates heat. Thus, it is not wise to touch an operating Dark Sucker. Candles present a special problem as the mass must travel into a solid wick instead of through clear glass. This generates a great amount of heat and therefore it's not wise to touch an operating candle.
    This is easily proven for light bulbs too. When you compress a gas, it gets hot, right? So the light bulb gets hot because of all the dark being squished into the wires.
    Also, dark is heavier than light. If you were to swim just below the surface of the lake, you would see a lot of light. If you were to slowly swim deeper and deeper, you would notice it getting darker and darker. When you get really deep, you would be in total darkness. This is because the heavier dark sinks to the bottom of the lake and the lighter light floats at the top. The is why it is called light.
    Dark Suckers are only able to suck dark in a straight line. Dark, because of its mass, will not penetrate solid, opaque objects as it is being sucked by a Dark Sucker. When a Dark Sucker is operating, you will notice that dark that is behind a solid, opaque object does not flow through the object or around it to the Dark Sucker. Some of the dark will accumulate on the side of the object away from the Dark Sucker as the Dark Sucker attempts to pull it through the object. These residual patches of dark are often referred to as `shadows.'
    Some surfaces are able to function as secondary Dark Suckers by sucking the dark from behind solid objects at an angle and then rerouting it to the primary Dark Sucker. These surfaces have a property we refer to as `reflective.'
    Finally, we must prove that dark is faster than light. If you were to stand in a lit room in front of a closed, dark closet, and slowly opened the closet door, you would see the light slowly enter the closet. But since dark is so fast, you would not be able to see the dark leave the closet.
    So next time you see an electric bulb, remember that it is not a light emitter but a Dark Sucker.
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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    This is an interesting theory, but I don't really see how light couldn't be emitted from bulbs, saying that they "suck in" darkness doesn't sit well with me, the reason for that being light as we know it is part of the light spectrum (duh lol) and as that stands, the light spectrum carries over into radiation (or better yet harmful radiation), such as x-rays, gamma rays, ultraviolet rays, etc. when it comes down to it, the light we see is nothing but radiation and we have proven that true radiation (when I say "true" radiation I'm talking about radiation that comes in rays and excluding particle radiation variants like alpha and beta, which are literally harmful particles that you can inhale that can be blocked by the skin or other materials) gives off rays, therefore a bulb would have to be giving off the light you see from it, not eating the darkness, but overtaking it as science initially states.
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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    When you look how how a bulb works, you can see that it emits light by heating up the coils inside....not because its 'sucking up the dark'


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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    This seems really dumb to me..

    Darkness simply means that there is a lack of luminous energy to light up whatever area that's dark. Darkness has no matter and is no form of actual energy as this makes it seem.
    And then we have the light bulb, which is nothing but electricity passing through a filament wire which has the effect of creating such a high temperature that the wire glows, not some "dark sucking" hoobabooba.

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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    Can somebody say time cube?

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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    You say electric bulbs are dark suckers, then, in the same post, say fire is a dark sucker. Fire is hot because it's fire, not because it's sucking dark. The wick might be a dark sucker, but if that's true, it wouldn't need fire to do it (it'd need electricity).

    Interesting attempt, though. Next time, construct it in the reverse. "The phenomenon known as 'dark sucking' was first observed in the burning of wood and nature. Thinking it was simply bright heat, they transferred this to a more controllable instrument, the candle. When Thomas Edison finally realized that electricity had the same dark sucking property as fire, he built the light bulb around it (knowing that it would be more efficient, safe, and abundant than fire). Although Thomas Edison may have been the one to discover the property of dark sucking, it wasn't until just recently that the science behind this strange phenomenon came to light. ..." Then... Explain it. Or something like that.
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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    Darkness, as our eyes depict it, is black in color. Since colors don't exist because our eyes create them, then maybe darkness doesn't exist. Or maybe it's always there until light blankets it away.


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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Albear View Post
    Since colors don't exist because our eyes create them
    Eh?
    Please, do explain.

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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    @Konkulf
    Well, it you had no eyes, you will technically ”see” only the color black. A color, along with white, are probably the only ”colors” that truly exists beyond our perception. Our eyes, with the help of our brains, convert certain ranges of the electromagnetic spectrum into various color, mostly from white.. And maybe some fron black.


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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    Ahh, I might have misunderstood a bit of what you said the first time, my bad

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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Albear View Post
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    Well, it you had no eyes, you will technically ”see” only the color black. A color, along with white, are probably the only ”colors” that truly exists beyond our perception. Our eyes, with the help of our brains, convert certain ranges of the electromagnetic spectrum into various color, mostly from white.. And maybe some fron black.
    It's not that your eyes see color, your eyes capture electromagnetic waves for your brain to interpret. Without eyes, you wouldn't "see" anything... Your eyes AREN'T there (seeing clearly requires eyes, seeing really only requires the optic nerve). You could push images from the outside world in real time into your brain that have shapes and contrast with ONLY your brain (though, as we'd expect, it would be seriously lacking in detailed color). You don't see black, you just simply don't see color (and this absence is interpreted as black). We use color to describe the frequencies of the electromagnetic spectrum (and they'd certainly exist even if the entire human race had no eyes). There are three primary colors of the visible spectrum (red, green, blue), all three of which combine to form what we see as white light. Black is not a color where light is involved.

    So, technically speaking, black is the absence of electromagnetic waves in the visible spectrum, and thus if a space is perceived as black, then there must be no visible light present there. Instead of "dark suckers", it should be quite the contrary. Darker objects suck visible light at every opportunity. Darker objects do not allow visible light to reflect off of them, giving the appearance of no light being present (blackness). So... Dark objects should be called Light Suckers (as if we didn't know that already).
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    @Kusuke
    Technically not seeing any color due to the absence of eyes is still figuratively ”seeing” black. Doesn't matter if you are missing the optic nerve, your brain and very being will still perceive something.. which is pitch black.
    Again, colors such as red or blue does not exist beyond our brain. We create these colors.


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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Albear View Post
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    Again, colors such as red or blue does not exist beyond our brain. We create these colors.
    Sorry, but they do exist. Color is simply how objects absorb light and reflect it, unless its man-made [such as clothes, plastics, etc], then its based on dyes/inks/pigments we use. This is why we all see the same colors the same way [sans reds, women have more optic cones to see more variations of red than men do.]

    If we want to get technical about color-
    "Color is the visual effect that is caused by the spectral composition of the light emitted, transmitted, or reflected by objects."

    If theres no light, we cant perceive the color, thus "black" [again, unless we're talking about inks/dyes/pigments]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albear View Post
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    Technically not seeing any color due to the absence of eyes is still figuratively ”seeing” black. Doesn't matter if you are missing the optic nerve, your brain and very being will still perceive something.. which is pitch black.
    Again, colors such as red or blue does not exist beyond our brain. We create these colors.
    It may be true that we created our perception of color, but I don't think anyone understands the neurological side of color enough to determine where color lies in the brain. Philosophical questions follow. For example, how do we know we are seeing the same colors? Probably because human's brains are similarly adapted as a species, and that dictates which color we see and why, so we have no question. The only exceptions are when the eyes are not functioning properly or missing.

    However, seeing black does not make black a color (though artists would argue since you can use colors to make black), seeing pitch black means you aren't seeing ANY color (or ANY THING for that matter). There are black objects, but they are absorbing most (if not all) of the light and none of it is making it to your brain, so therefore you are not assigning a color to it. It is just what appears when there is no light present. We feel the need to label it, and so it is very confusing (and often debated).
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    Default Re: The Dark Sucker Theory

    Damn, looks like a simple Google search could have cleared this up before it was ever posted.

    This is why science classes should be required up through basic physics and chemistry. I don't care if you don't use it; at least ludicrous drivel like this would be far less common and slightly more entertaining.
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    Wait, I have to clarify something-
    Are we speaking strictly of light or of color in general? Because in light black is the absence of color, in color [pigment] it is all colors combined to create black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Sorry, but they do exist. Color is simply how objects absorb light and reflect it, unless its man-made [such as clothes, plastics, etc], then its based on dyes/inks/pigments we use. This is why we all see the same colors the same way [sans reds, women have more optic cones to see more variations of red than men do.]

    If we want to get technical about color-
    "Color is the visual effect that is caused by the spectral composition of the light emitted, transmitted, or reflected by objects."

    If theres no light, we cant perceive the color, thus "black" [again, unless we're talking about inks/dyes/pigments]
    I feel like a brainless dood reading your post as well as Kusuke's. Okay, since you two sound more credible, I'll agree with some of the stuff.
    Now.. You mentioned how women can can see more red than men, well see that is your eyes converting a wider range of the electromagnetic spectrum for red. Okay, maybe color does exist. As for fixed colors on man made items.... I completely disagree, if what you are saying is that everyone perceives it the same. My best example is a ball my younger sister use to own. To me, its red as a strawberry. But she says it's pink. We both agree that strawberries are red.. But not the ball.

    ---------- Post added at 08:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 AM ----------

    @Kusuke
    For the most part, I think we see the same color.. Maybe the shading/brightness are the differences for people.
    If black isn't a color because it's the absence of light, then it's simply just nothing? Like you said, we still need to label it.. so it's black. But, it's not a color because the EM spectrum does not exist within darkness.... but it's still black, which most would say is a color.
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    The Dark Sucker would be a great name for a sentai show monster-of-the-week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albear View Post
    I feel like a brainless dood reading your post as well as Kusuke's. Okay, since you two sound more credible, I'll agree with some of the stuff.
    Now.. You mentioned how women can can see more red than men, well see that is your eyes converting a wider range of the electromagnetic spectrum for red. Okay, maybe color does exist. As for fixed colors on man made items.... I completely disagree, if what you are saying is that everyone perceives it the same. My best example is a ball my younger sister use to own. To me, its red as a strawberry. But she says it's pink. We both agree that strawberries are red.. But not the ball.

    ---------- Post added at 08:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:19 AM ----------

    @Kusuke
    For the most part, I think we see the same color.. Maybe the shading/brightness are the differences for people.
    If black isn't a color because it's the absence of light, then it's simply just nothing? Like you said, we still need to label it.. so it's black. But, it's not a color because the EM spectrum does not exist within darkness.... but it's still black, which most would say is a color.
    Her seeing it as one color while you see it another is a prime example of what I mentioned. As a girl, she could probably see that it had more of a pink tone to it over being 'red'. Another example, maroon and burgundy look identical to my bf, but to me one has more pink the other has more purple. If they were blues we'd see the exact same colors. Now, its not ALL women, but about half of them. You can read about it a bit more here

    http://www.omg-facts.com/Science/50-...Than-Eve/50001

    The colors are there, men just cant perceive them. Some animals can actually see ultraviolet. The color exists, our eyes just cant physically see it, but some other animals can. The color is always there, its more of a matter of how advanced our eyes are.

    Fun fact- the human eye can pick up more shades of green than any other color, which is why night vision is green
    http://www.omg-facts.com/Science/Nig...o-See-Th/54580

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Her seeing it as one color while you see it another is a prime example of what I mentioned. As a girl, she could probably see that it had more of a pink tone to it over being 'red'. Another example, maroon and burgundy look identical to my bf, but to me one has more pink the other has more purple. If they were blues we'd see the exact same colors. Now, its not ALL women, but about half of them. You can read about it a bit more here

    http://www.omg-facts.com/Science/50-...Than-Eve/50001

    The colors are there, men just cant perceive them. Some animals can actually see ultraviolet. The color exists, our eyes just cant physically see it, but some other animals can. The color is always there, its more of a matter of how advanced our eyes are.

    Fun fact- the human eye can pick up more shades of green than any other color, which is why night vision is green
    http://www.omg-facts.com/Science/Nig...o-See-Th/54580
    Imma look up animals seeing ultraviolet radiation.. Cuz I thought that was a bunch of bull when I read that. In addition to shades of green, we can see infrared, like night vision, needs another piece of tech to aid our eyes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Albear View Post
    Imma look up animals seeing ultraviolet radiation.. Cuz I thought that was a bunch of bull when I read that. In addition to shades of green, we can see infrared, like night vision, needs another piece of tech to aid our eyes.
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_anima...aviolet_colors

    =]

    We had to learn all this in my color theory and color psychology classes @___@

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    The reason humans can't see IR is that we're warm blooded day creatures. We literally glow in the infrared spectrum and live in a world that is also saturated with IR, which makes it impossible to construct an eye that can see it (it would just see full "white" all the time). Some cold blooded night animals like snakes can pull it off though.

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    Dark sucker sounds way too lewd

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