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    Default What exactly is their origin?

    In the original opening you see these shadowy demon things encased in rainbow crystals corresponding with each Sailor Senshi. Then we find out Queen serenity ruled the moon. Then we find out that Serena is Serenity and she's from the future. And that there are other scouts including her own daughter. Plus you have Pluto and her time travelling with no explanation, a talking flying unicorn. Sailor Saturn who everyone is sure can destroy the universe despite never having done so because3, hey it's still here.

    Where the heck do Sailor Scouts come from?

    my personal theory is they're monsters just like the ones they fight, but better looking.
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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Its explained that each is a princess of her own planet, but for some reason the moon is more important. They arent really monsters, its safe to say theyre aliens, given they were born on different planets.

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    That can't be right for a number od reasons. Aside from most of them being less habitable than the Moon... why would Mercury's power be water?

    Plus some of them are born in the future... man this show has a lot of plot holes.


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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    That can't be right for a number od reasons. Aside from most of them being less habitable than the Moon... why would Mercury's power be water?

    Plus some of them are born in the future... man this show has a lot of plot holes.
    Well, I guess they have special powers that lets them live on their planets. As for their elements, its based on their Roman counterparts. Since Mercury's element was actual mercury, they probably opted to go with water instead since its another liquid...just not a liquid metal.

    And theyre all born around the same time and die on the moon. Queen Serenity [the first] sends them to Earth to be reborn, which they are in the future to them, the present to us. Eventually Sailor Moon becomes Neo Queen Serenity in the future, where they have their daughter who travels back to the past in season 3 to get hold of the silver crystal to save her mother. There arent really plot holes when following along the seasons, it all explains itself eventually

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Roman? Seriouslyt hat' syour explanation why the SPACE ALIENS aren't right? Didn't you just say they came from those planets? besides that still makes no sense since Pluto is the death god and Saturn is the god of time. So Pluto's time travelling makes less sense...


    Also I always wondered, is Serna her own grandmother or something because Queen Serenity from the past and future are both her... and she's supposed to be the moon goddess Serene... but they also say Serene is Serentiy's real mother...


    Gah! My head hurts!


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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    There was a Kingdom on every Planet, and the Earth's Moon was the Capitol of the Kingdom of Light. All of the Sailor Warriors were Princesses of their respective planetary Kingdoms. Princesses of Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter made up the Sailor Warriors who protected the royal Family of the Earth's Moon. Sailor Venus was the Leader. Sailors Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto made up the Warrior Princesses who protected the Silver Millennium which was the Government on the Earth's Moon ... which was the Capitol of the entire Solar System, the Kingdom of Light. Sailor Saturn was the Leader of the Outer Senshi. Make Sense?


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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Most of the story is based in mythology Serenity and Endymion were actual mythical creatures :P


    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    why would Mercury's power be water?
    as for why mercury has water power, that is because planets names in Japanese are not the same as in west

    水星 the kanji used are "water" and "star" Ami's name is also 水野亜美 which uses "water" and "field"
    it is pretty much the same with the rest of the planets

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    Quote Originally Posted by RainyDayMan View Post
    There was a Kingdom on every Planet, and the Earth's Moon was the Capitol of the Kingdom of Light. All of the Sailor Warriors were Princesses of their respective planetary Kingdoms. Princesses of Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter made up the Sailor Warriors who protected the royal Family of the Earth's Moon. Sailor Venus was the Leader. Sailors Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto made up the Warrior Princesses who protected the Silver Millennium which was the Government on the Earth's Moon ... which was the Capitol of the entire Solar System, the Kingdom of Light. Sailor Saturn was the Leader of the Outer Senshi. Make Sense?


    NO!

    Seriously watch the original opening. I would swear those scary shadow things sealed in the rainbow gems were supposed to be them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    NO!

    Seriously watch the original opening. I would swear those scary shadow things sealed in the rainbow gems were supposed to be them.
    Did you like...not pay attention to the series? Those "scary shadow things" were the 7 monsters sealed away by the silver crystal, forcing them to split into the 7 rainbow crystals. Sailor Moon and the others find them sealed away in people and defeat the monsters trapped in them in order to retrieve the rainbow crystal to reform the silver crystal and reveal who the moon princess is.

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Then where the heck did those monsters come from?


    Also may I point out that we know for a fact the Sailor Scouts do eventually take over the world.
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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Then where the heck did those monsters come from?


    Also may I point out that we know for a fact the Sailor Scouts do eventually take over the world.
    From Queen Baryl?

    And they dont take over the world, they are appointed rulers/guardians of the world...which is exactly what they are.

    Remember, Endymion was the prince of Earth, thus in line to be the king of Earth before they all died and were reborn. He then marries the princess of the Moon, they have a daughter and he takes his place as king of Earth, something that was [technically] his birth right.

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    Yeah, I'm sure everybody agreed with that and nobody tried to lock them in a bunker and do experiments. Because humans would never do that to people who were admitted super powered aliens.


    And it wasn't like a lot of the future was totally trashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Yeah, I'm sure everybody agreed with that and nobody tried to lock them in a bunker and do experiments. Because humans would never do that to people who were admitted super powered aliens.


    And it wasn't like a lot of the future was totally trashed.
    Apparently not, because it never happens in the series.

    And they managed to change the future, as apparent by the fact that Sailor Moon upgrades her crystal to the Ruby Crystal where in the future they saw, she hadd the silver crystal.

    But this has nothing to do with their *origins*

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    It does with Rini.


    In any case I'm just saying their backstory is full of holes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    It does with Rini.


    In any case I'm just saying their backstory is full of holes...
    How so? What holes?

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Aside from the fact that no life can exist on most of their "homeworlds"? Least of all human shaped life. But hey it's a cartoon so we'll gloss over that.

    1. They can't seem to decide if they're using magic or science

    2. Where all these badguys keep coming from.

    3. Why the even need secret identities.

    4. Why tiny masks hide those identities...

    5. Why Rini looks almost nothing like Dark Lady when she grows up



    Really I could go on, but let's say there's a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Aside from the fact that no life can exist on most of their "homeworlds"? Least of all human shaped life. But hey it's a cartoon so we'll gloss over that.

    1. They can't seem to decide if they're using magic or science

    2. Where all these badguys keep coming from.

    3. Why the even need secret identities.

    4. Why tiny masks hide those identities...

    5. Why Rini looks almost nothing like Dark Lady when she grows up



    Really I could go on, but let's say there's a lot.
    But youre ok with aliens from Dragon Ball? Mmmmkay. Its an anime, they can do what they want.

    What science do you see?? Other than Amy's data ability. In some cases enemies merge the two together. Animes mix magic and science all the time, its nothing new.

    Other planets? Again, if you paid attention to the series youd hear where they come from

    Only Tuxedo Mask wears a mask, though Sailor V wears one for a while before joining the scouts. Otherwise none of them wear masks.

    Because Dark Lady had power from the dark crystal. When she actually grows up, she doesnt have that dark magic in her, thus the difference.

    Theres no holes, youre just lacking in information

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    No, in fact I hate the Dragonball Z storyline. The things supposed to be based on "Journey To The West" damn it, not freaking superman, Back to the Future, and the Terminator!

    I mean super strong alien baby sent to Earth by scientist father from exploding planet learns to fly and shoot lasers then ends up fighting three evil aliens fromt he same planet.

    Alien robot comes back from the Future to kill a man.


    Boy comes back from the future, meets his parents, gets hit on by his mother... yeesh, like we don't have enough movie remakes in America already.
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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    1. They can't seem to decide if they're using magic or science
    What science are you referring to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    2. Where all these badguys keep coming from.
    - Beryl was the Queen of earth
    - Prince Demand was from Nemesis
    - Professor Tomoe was a human (earthling)
    - Nehelenia was a queen of some planet as well
    - Galaxia was the ruler of the galaxy

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    3. Why the even need secret identities.
    because they want to live normal lives when they do not fight that's why the concept of magical girls is almost always about some school girl turning super heroine so to not be noticeable

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    4. Why tiny masks hide those identities...
    Only Tuxedo kamen wears one, Sailor V had different costume in the past and a mask on

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    5. Why Rini looks almost nothing like Dark Lady when she grows up
    they do not look alike?
    where? the clothes? Then length of her hair?
    well evil women always get long epic hair for some reason in SM

    PS: That would be Black Lady by the way not Dark

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoshirabu View Post
    What science are you referring to?
    One word: Mercury

    plus the future stuff. And the space ships, gravity rays, special weapons...

    - Beryl was the Queen of earth
    So they DID kill our rightful ruler!
    - Prince Demand was from Nemesis
    - Professor Tomoe was a human (earthling)
    - Nehelenia was a queen of some planet as well
    - Galaxia was the ruler of the galaxy
    I knwo they CLAIMED that, but seeing as how the only people living in the solar system have no record of them, I'll wait on that judgement. There are many homeless men who claim to be the king of mars and even suddenly deloping super powers doesn't automatically make that true.

    because they want to live normal lives when they do not fight that's why the concept of magical girls is almost always about some school girl turning super heroine so to not be noticeable
    Venus had her own TV series.

    As for the others, if that's what they want why do they also complaina bout being broke, not being famous, etc. Besides again they apparently grow up to be overlords of the world.


    Only Tuxedo kamen wears one, Sailor V had different costume in the past and a mask on
    Someone hasn't been paying attention...




    they do not look alike?
    where? the clothes? Then length of her hair?
    well evil women always get long epic hair for some reason in SM

    PS: That would be Black Lady by the way not Dark
    Depends if you watch American or Japanese version.

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    WHOA WHOA WHOA

    Beryl was NEVER queen of the Earth. She served Queen Metalia, a demon from the Sun. Beryl was simply a sorceress born on Earth in both the anime and manga. She was also in love with Endymion and hated how he loved princess Serenity over her.

    Venus never had a tv series. She almost did, but the company that was going to produce and air it went out of business.

    Sailor Moon wear masks in artwork for the manga. She never wears on in the anime. And even in the manga I dont think she wears one throughout the series

    Mercury doesnt have science powers, shes just smart. Just because its a magical girl show doesnt mean science cant exist.

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Sailor Venus did have a thriving entertainment carear before she joiend the group. I remember Serena watching her on TV a few times.

    As for the mask...

    I knwo Sailor Venus wore one at least. maybe I'm mixing them up. but the point about the crappy disguise is still valid.



     










    Sailor Mercury and science

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    Ah, you mean in the show. Yes, she was an icon in the show. The secret identity is pretty obvious....lots of heroes have them.

    And like I said, Mercury was smart and good with computers. Why cant she use technology? It it a crime?? The bulk of the show is magical girl, nothing wrong with tossing in a few other aspects in the mix

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    One word: Mercury
    plus the future stuff. And the space ships, gravity rays, special weapons...
    mercury uses a computer to get her data, she is not using the computer to kill the enemies
    what spaceships? rays and weapons?


    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    So they DID kill our rightful ruler!
    so?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    I knwo they CLAIMED that, but seeing as how the only people living in the solar system have no record of them, I'll wait on that judgement. There are many homeless men who claim to be the king of mars and even suddenly deloping super powers doesn't automatically make that true.
    what exactly are you talking about? what records?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Venus had her own TV series.
    in the anime she had a video game that usagi was playing
    Venus wanted to be known as pop idol.
    it is a different thing to be famous idol and people know you for being a talent and different to be a super hero and have to have a secret identity to be able to keep your self and the ppl you have dear to you safe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    As for the others, if that's what they want why do they also complain about being broke, not being famous, etc. Besides again they apparently grow up to be overlords of the world.
    when did they do that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Someone hasn't been paying attention...
    Usagi was a fan of Sailor V so adopting V's cool mask for one time or an artwork is not considered a costume part


    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Depends if you watch American or Japanese version.
    sorry I'm not American I never watched the American version

    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    WHOA WHOA WHOA

    Beryl was NEVER queen of the Earth.
    I haven't come around the first season of anime and manga's first arc in a long time, so the last time I did was through the musicals and there Beryl is considered the Queen of earth. Sorry for the misunderstanding

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    Default Re: What exactly is their origin?

    Their enemies also seem to use both science and magic a lot.
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