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    Default Is AF falling apart?

    Recently.. Okay for a pretty damn good time now I've noticed AF has come off as a declining website. AF has good members, a great admin, and a chat more active than most! Quite honestly, I can't say AF isnt a good forum, because it really is. Though re examine my sentence. I said the word good, not great. Lately, AF has seemed to decline much more, as in thread quality and activity. Really, the only relavant threads belong to a troll AND a thread being posted on by the same members. AF is basically a family to me, and seeing this really disgusts me!

    Why am I ranting and risking myself to being completely bashed over the next few days? The answer is clear. I care. I hate seeing AF decline. If something isnt done, AF will continue to decline and lose importance.. Will it ever die? No, that is highly doubtful, but REALLY.. reaching the point of not dying isn't a good thing! Actually it borders risky. At one point, AF was stronger than A4\OC, but saying that now would be a work of fiction. How did A4 get stronger? How did A4 reach a point where any blog could get 25 blog replies and that look normal? How did A4 reach a point where 50+ people are on at once? One word. REVAMP. AF needs a revamp. Something to catch the guests' eye. Im no pro, but seeing how advance some forums are.. why can't AF do the same?

    AF feels aged. Very aged. This is no one's fault, as forums looking aged is normal. Though not doing something about it IMO is wrong. How can I prove my point of AF declining? Which section is the most active? This, obviously. Actually that is why I posted this here. I knew people would click it! Some sections are dying, which is the fault of the members. AF shouldn't have near dead sections! It means interest has declined. AF is old, so seeing this isn't a shock.. Though AF is WAY TOO good for dying sections!

    The banners need to be changed. Ive seen the same ones for years! At least to stay updated with anime out nowadays. Lucky Star is great, but why not an Acchi Kocchi one? It shows the site is stll being updated, and still cared about! Is making new banners difficult? I understand people are busy, but somebody should be able to.

    Ive gotten four members to join in the past year, and ALL said the same thing. "Activity and Design". Toon stuck around, but I feel not for long. Why should we care? Every member counts. Thats why.

    Guests viewing this. JOIN. I know me saying that isnt enough, but AF deserves the help. You'd love it here! At least give us a chance. Join the family OR even tell your friends. Every member counts. Im getting tired of seeing the same threads over and over. Complaining won't help, but doing work will.

    Somebody had to say it. Honestly, its true. Denying it is only making matters worse. Reply or even make jokes, honestly its only keeping AF from progress. Go ahead. AF your take? Ace. Your take? I feel like this needed to be said. Really. Rest is up to you.
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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    No one cares.


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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Quote Originally Posted by MissAstaire View Post
    No one cares.

    That may be the sad ignorant truth. Though, it backs up my point. Don't care. Really, AF will suffer. Just you wait. Though, for people who do care can see my point.
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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoko Littner View Post
    That may be the sad ignorant truth. Though, it backs up my point. Don't care. Really, AF will suffer. Just you wait. Though, for people who do care can see my point.
    To be honest it's been like this for awhile now but we somehow keep going, true it would be nice for an update every now and then but what we need to consider is that the original members and the regular ones have now grown up further and consequently have to carry a job or two or having to study at university (such as me who has to write assignments like they're going out of style)

    I have noticed that activity picks up more around the summer times when people have more time off.

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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Is the sky falling again, already?

    Was like 5 months since AF was dying last time D:

    (We're just off-season. X-mas and summer is when AF is usually busy. The rest of the time is somewhat dead.)

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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Is the sky falling again, already?

    Was like 5 months since AF was dying last time D:

    (We're just off-season. X-mas and summer is when AF is usually busy. The rest of the time is somewhat dead.)
    Figured as much that was the case but a few new images here and there wouldn't hurt though surely to keep things fresh?

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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Probably could do with some new banners. I don't particularly mind the ones that there are, and they don't -just- have to be of recent anime (if I was competent in Photoshop I would have made an Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop banner by now, and those anime are from the '90's.)

    But therein lies the problem. There are probably very few people around who would want to make banners or have the time to. That's something that the folks competent at graphics (such as Ellipsis and Blueangel) are probably better sorting out, as they have the talents to be able to make new banners or organise a contest for such things.

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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    I only come here for VG.

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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    Probably could do with some new banners. I don't particularly mind the ones that there are, and they don't -just- have to be of recent anime (if I was competent in Photoshop I would have made an Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop banner by now, and those anime are from the '90's.)

    But therein lies the problem. There are probably very few people around who would want to make banners or have the time to. That's something that the folks competent at graphics (such as Ellipsis and Blueangel) are probably better sorting out, as they have the talents to be able to make new banners or organise a contest for such things.

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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    There have been quite a few "AF IS DYING" threads, and I think I've seen times of lower activity than now.

    But this OP might have a point with things needing updating. And not just the banners. Consider the sub-boards for the different genres. I enjoyed a number of those anime...but I also enjoyed MC Hammer..in some cases at the same time. In any case I'd expect that people might come here wanting to discuss series that are currently putting out new content.

    On the subject of sub-boards, I'd suggest that if they don't want to have recommendation threads in the "main" genre boards, at least make a sub-board just for specific recomendations. Like I bet a lot of people part of my motivation for joining was to ask for specific recomendations. If I was expected to wade through a massive thread of general recomendations I'd wonder why people even bother instead of going to a review site (or a different forum). The point of a forum is having that back and forth. But maybe that's just me.

    Of course there are forums that stick around by focussing more on people in the thirties (Trek and Wargamming forums for example). But not enough of us that joined when this place was fresh have stuck around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyside View Post
    There have been quite a few "AF IS DYING" threads, and I think I've seen times of lower activity than now.

    But this OP might have a point with things needing updating. And not just the banners. Consider the sub-boards for the different genres. I enjoyed a number of those anime...but I also enjoyed MC Hammer..in some cases at the same time. In any case I'd expect that people might come here wanting to discuss series that are currently putting out new content.

    On the subject of sub-boards, I'd suggest that if they don't want to have recommendation threads in the "main" genre boards, at least make a sub-board just for specific recomendations. Like I bet a lot of people part of my motivation for joining was to ask for specific recomendations. If I was expected to wade through a massive thread of general recomendations I'd wonder why people even bother instead of going to a review site (or a different forum). The point of a forum is having that back and forth. But maybe that's just me.

    Of course there are forums that stick around by focussing more on people in the thirties (Trek and Wargamming forums for example). But not enough of us that joined when this place was fresh have stuck around.
    In this case, I suggest a Series of the Month for both the Western Section and the General Section. Some forums that centralize on certain shows/anime do that (Especially those who centralized in the Holy Shounen Trinity). They have a general section for all Anime and Manga that re not those three, and the members vote for the most popular (current) series, and it gets it's own sub section. As long as it's recent.

    It doesn't necessarily has to last one month, it could last two or three. In the forum I go to, Jojo still has it's own sub-section even if it's an anime from Fall.

    The only problem here is that the amount of discussing in this forums is so low---Only times this forum discuss about thing it's when it's politics or news in a lesser extend. But that goes as far as 3 pages.

    All music, anime, games, comics, animated shows, movies, you name it---You see zero to minimum of it. But we can still give this a try.
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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    AF can't die! LIVE AF! LIVE!

    But seriously, I think AF cannot die due to traffic it gets all the time. Every time I look at the thread info bar, there are always more guests than members, save for a few "controversial" threads.


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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    I enjoy these forums. there is a good mix of topics to read and view points from members.

    success breeds success and I think the same goes for activity on the boards.

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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Sh't happens
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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    This forum is in no way dying.
    I should know, I was a member of two role playing forums now deceased.
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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoko Littner View Post
    AF needs a revamp. Something to catch the guests' eye.
    ...
    AF feels aged. Very aged.
    ...
    The banners need to be changed.
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    "Activity and Design".
    Sure, let's all rearrange the deck chairs.

    The reason I came to enjoy AF- and without bothering with the actual anime/manga forums much, really- was that some of the staff and most of the old hands were not at all straight-laced, but were borderline trolls themselves. They weren't really trolls, mind you- much more skilled and subtle, the reason I call some of them anglers. Right up to the line, but no further, and with a comment or two of some substance buried in amongst the nonsense. Besides mongers of mischief, there were actually interesting discussions to be had, too- even if only on the subject of zombies, for instance. You know, threads that posed a question that required more than an objectively verifiable fact or two as a response, but instead called for justification and defense of opinion, or even a grandiose and unnecessary roleplay. Now, we get "How tall?" (which can only remind me of the troll of legend) and we get the likes of VideoGamer555 and his sockpuppets, instead of Mavericker- who I insist was simply far too fun to let go.

    We've always had crap threads, but we had more of the fun kinds before.

    A great deal of this is cyclical, and it'll pick up again given time and a few users who give a damn. (The only real complaint I've had that can be addressed concretely is a periodic lack of forum moderation- but that's periodic, mind you, no matter how enraged I can get over a thread of spam now and then.)

    If you want a new banner for the sake of a new banner, then by all means, lobby for it. Just don't expect it to address the causes of the current stagnation. Part of that is seasonal, part of it is just lack of inspiration.

    I also know from experience that when people cry out that they want an interesting thread, often they are not about to put in the time to (1) actually make one themselves, nor are they (2) guaranteed to respond to any other interesting threads that are posted.



    So, nevermind chat, nevermind the banners, nevermind the interface. Go out and cause some trouble on the boards- just be sure you don't cross the line. Feel free to tap dance all over it, though, and do so with conspicuous audacity.
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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    38( I don't really notice. Perhaps it's because I've been traveling around and also I've been busy with my personal life. Doubt that AF will really die. It's just maybe the slow peak, that's all.

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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    I can see where you're coming from when you say that AF is dying or falling apart. I just think that people get busy and AF gets inactive. I know that I tend to get very busy and can't make the time but I try to make an effort. But, as it has been said, we are on the off season right now where it can be inactive. March is the busy month for most colleges or universities because its the month before finals. Its a crazy month of assignments to be handed in and presentations to be done. (I have a paper and 2 presentations due next week) It will definitely become more active in the summer time for sure. I would rather not see AF die. :3



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAsterisk! View Post
    the old hands
    Out of curiosity how many of the people that you're thinking of there are still around and how many have gone?

    My impression of AF is that it's a high churn sort of place. Which means more than many forums we require more new people.

    Actually on that note if someone ( @Yoko Littner ) is worried about the board bu doesn't want to make bunches of new threads all over, something you might want to consider is trying to be welcoming over in the new member signups.

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    As someone who has left AF for a year at times, I can say that it was because there wasn't anything particular that really made me want to stay (except for a few members). Even now, I recently tried to get back into AF but the appeal just isn't here anymore. I still love AF and its community and it's a forum that I find myself coming back to every now and then. But every time I try and stick around for awhile, I'll maybe last a week or two before I start drifting away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TadashiED View Post
    As someone who has left AF for a year at times, I can say that it was because there wasn't anything particular that really made me want to stay (except for a few members). Even now, I recently tried to get back into AF but the appeal just isn't here anymore. I still love AF and its community and it's a forum that I find myself coming back to every now and then. But every time I try and stick around for awhile, I'll maybe last a week or two before I start drifting away.
    I find people stick around when they have "something to do" here. Some people really just like spamming it up here in misc. Others are in art or poetry and so on.

    I'm mostly in the RP board, I look here when I'm board, and I ask for recommendations when I don't know what to watch next. Though again the forum is weird with recommendations now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyside View Post
    Out of curiosity how many of the people that you're thinking of there are still around and how many have gone?

    My impression of AF is that it's a high churn sort of place. Which means more than many forums we require more new people.

    Actually on that note if someone ( @Yoko Littner ) is worried about the board bu doesn't want to make bunches of new threads all over, something you might want to consider is trying to be welcoming over in the new member signups.
    Ive tried doing that, infact I still sometimes do. I have no issue making threads, actually its quite fun. I just feel my welcome message won't be enough to keep most of the new sign-ups around. If it was that easy, AF would be a more active place. Lol.
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    Default Re: Is AF falling apart?

    Personally, I understand the dying sentiment. But It's just a lot of inactivity. We have tons of members, but no one really does anything on the forums. I think it would be great if we had a revival though. I miss when chat was packed. All of you should promote AF on facebooks and tumblrs! And whatever else you use!
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