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    Default [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    So, I kept getting links to this video. It has some interesting facts in it, take your time, watch it and come to your own conclusion. It's a 30 minute video..

     


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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    Watching right now...will comment later

    ---------- Post added at 12:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:07 PM ----------

    Boss just made a sudden raid of the office lol.
    I will have to wait till later to watch it XD

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    I watched half of it... Before I just got angry and quit.. I'm either A) Angry at the people at Sandy Hook for faking it or B) angry that someone made this elaborate thing to make us think that Sandy Hook was a conspiracy.

    Either way the whole situation is a mess. The first thing I thought of when Sandy Hook happened was... "Now they are really going to push the envelope at gun control" What a better catalyst than elementary children at school.

    High school shootings, meh
    College shootings, Meh
    Movie theater shootings, Meh
    Mall shootings, Meh
    Any other type of mass shooting, Meh
    .... But an elementary school, ALL HECK BREAKS LOOSE. And I knew it would... It did...

    I was not let down on my projection of that. Anyhow no further comment since I didn't watch it all. But things really don't add up.

    I'm also starting to think the problem with the U.S. and these crimes also involves the media. In other countries when stuff like this goes down it's not national, and is contained. However here in the states when stuff goes down you are more famous than the president for just a few moments and the media has to twist it all up and get their facts wrong or make them wrong intentionally for ratings and views. No one can give anyone what actually happened anymore. They gotta add their own spice to it.


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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    I have already seen this before.

    All I can say is:

    People just can't accept the fact that some crazy lunatics killed a bunch of kids. They blame it on whatever conspiracy they can come up with.

    ---------- Post added at 01:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:33 PM ----------

    In addition.

    First I heard was the 9/11 conspiracy. Then some others I can't remember. Then this.

    I wonder what's next? Hurricane Sandy is also a conspiracy by the government?

     



    I just want them to stop disrespecting the pain of the families who lost their loved once. They think everything is just a stunt to make excuses to ban guns.

    I don't think anyone would sacrifice their children for that crap.
    Last edited by DenjaX; 01-16-2013 at 01:47 PM.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    I trend to the idea that the only person who knows exactly what happened that day and how it was specifically done is dead; anything anyone else says is conjecture without empirical evidence, and we won't know everything even with evidence.
    Less is more.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    Meh, everything claimed in that video is pure conjecture. I guess if I do a ton of research on my own I'll be able to make a better determination of the validity of this conspiracy theory, but I've got better things to do. The only thing I agree with though, is that the medical examiner was indeed disturbingly disturbed...

    Anyway, for now I still believe Sandy Hook was not a conspiracy. Notice how at the end the video started bombarding you with pro-gun and anti-Obama messages and pictures, and that does not sit well with me. A good documentary should be unbiased. This is probably just an elaborate video someone put together to kill some free time or to discredit the government's current effort to restrict guns.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    How could one spend so much time to research all of this? But I have to be real honest that at first, I was confused with the whole thing going on when it happened. But seeing some of this, I do question just a little.
    But in gun control, I think it's a waste of time to even have it be a "huge issue". America didn't do well with prohibition, it will be a whole lot worse with the gun control, too, methinks.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Feferi View Post
    But in gun control, I think it's a waste of time to even have it be a "huge issue". America didn't do well with prohibition, it will be a whole lot worse with the gun control, too, methinks.
    I agree with you. I describe myself as a left-leaning liberal Democrat, but even I know my second amendment. I may have supported Obama in the election, but that doesn't mean I'll agree with everything he says. Actually, I'm quite displeased that both Obama and my governor here in Maryland are trying to pass stringent gun control legislation. The war on drugs should be a big enough disaster for them to know better.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    Annnnd its all now been completely debunked. I can link you to the complete debunking of it if you wish.

    As with most (but not all) conspiracy theories, its fairly easy to pull apart.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    I posted this video already in the original thread and asked for opinions...But Oh well...

    This thing is really fishy as hell...the first thing that caught me is how the parents are smiling and laughing their asses off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylingo View Post
    Annnnd its all now been completely debunked. I can link you to the complete debunking of it if you wish.

    As with most (but not all) conspiracy theories, its fairly easy to pull apart.

    Share, plx

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenjaX View Post
    I have already seen this before.

    All I can say is:

    People just can't accept the fact that some crazy lunatics killed a bunch of kids. They blame it on whatever conspiracy they can come up with.

    ---------- Post added at 01:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:33 PM ----------

    In addition.

    First I heard was the 9/11 conspiracy. Then some others I can't remember. Then this.

    I wonder what's next? Hurricane Sandy is also a conspiracy by the government?

     



    I just want them to stop disrespecting the pain of the families who lost their loved once. They think everything is just a stunt to make excuses to ban guns.

    I don't think anyone would sacrifice their children for that crap.
    According to the video, they may not be any kids to begin with.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    According to the video, they may not be any kids to begin with.
    Then I guess those kids who are with Obama during his conference about gun management were Hollywood child actors/actresses.

    I wonder how they can pull of that grief about the "loss" of their classmates

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    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    I agree with you. I describe myself as a left-leaning liberal Democrat, but even I know my second amendment. I may have supported Obama in the election, but that doesn't mean I'll agree with everything he says. Actually, I'm quite displeased that both Obama and my governor here in Maryland are trying to pass stringent gun control legislation. The war on drugs should be a big enough disaster for them to know better.
    It's not as much of an issue of the amendment issues as it is the issue of trying to remedy a cold by chopping off one's nose so they don't have the sniffles anymore.

    Without turning this into a gun control thread, while I don't really see the need for fully automatic rifles (by the by, "assault weapons" is a media term that means nothing and isn't used by people who know the subject, much like the term "nuclear meltdown"), simply banning them won't really do much aside from driving people to other alternatives.

    I bring this up a lot, but about a day after Sandy Hook, someone in China went on a stabbing spree in a Chinese elementary school and stabbed something like 20 people. Where there is a will, there is a way, so more time needs to spent addressing the former, as the latter is simply an effect to the cause.

    Final note which might be contentious, while I think 2 of the 3 big legislation pieces, the "Assault Weapons" ban and high-cap magazine ban, are useless, I don't think they encroach on the 2nd amendment.

    Not that it matters, since they are so dead in the House it's not even funny. They might not even make it out of the Senate, honestly.
    Less is more.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post

    Share, plx

    ---------- Post added at 07:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:49 PM ----------
    Sorry about the delay.

    Here's a link to a post which completely dismantles the first video: http://www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comm...making/c7xjgzr
    And a video:

    I will be making my own video addressing the parts of the second conspiracy video. I'll post it here soon.

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    Default Re: [Trending]Sandy Hook Planned?

    And here's my own video to match the conspiracies second video.


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