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    Default The Ultimate Debate

    Sooo, I'd like to ask a cliche question.
    Would you prefer to watch all anime dubbed, or all anime subbed? In a basic term, is anime better dubbed or subbed? Now some voice actors like J. Michael Tatum(Sebastian, Kyoya Ohtori) and Johnny Young Bosch (Sasori, Ichigo Kurasaki, Shinjiro Taiga, Leloouch Vi Britannia) are wonderful at voice actors. But people like the dude who did Keiichi Maebara (Higurashi) leave much to be desired. I think this is a topic I've had mental conflict with for my whole life.
    Anybody got opinions?

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    dubs SUCK so subs. not to mention Daisuke ono beats Michael j. tatum any day.
    Last edited by Jozette; 12-31-2012 at 09:40 PM.
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    It's seriously a series-to-series basis for me. There are some genre-specific lines I draw. When localized correctly (imo), comedy series connect to me better when done in English with localized humor more so than Japanese humor.

    To give the inverse and paint a big blanket statement, anything that could be called "mainstream Shounen" is something I tend to prefer in Japanese, regardless of localization efforts. (Off hand, while I don't mind the dub of Fairy Tail (a rare exception), I still prefer the Japanese dub)

    I mean, there are people who consider the word "localization" as a dirty word, as someone in a "new media" (a term I really hate) profession, I can't even consider that possibility anymore, but I do understand the idea about preserving the source material.

    As for the language barrier, I'm fluent in English and only semi-fluent in Japanese, so I have to focus much more with subbed, which means I can watch english dubs quicker. (then again, I'm a manga person)

    Oh, by the by, this is a massive nitpick on my part, but...it's a dub, regardless of language; subtitles are a separate thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaito Loves Jozette View Post
    dubs SUCK so subs. not to mention Daisuke ono beats Michael j. tatum any day.
    I totally forgot about Daisuke Ono. But what about Vic Mignogna? He and Bosch are tied, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nunnally Vi Brittania View Post
    I totally forgot about Daisuke Ono. But what about Vic Mignogna? He and Bosch are tied, in my opinion.
    Vic is stuck up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaito Loves Jozette View Post
    Vic is stuck up.
    To use a term I heard in terms of acting, there's actors and then there are aacctooors~~~!

    To pre-empt, I mean nothing about his sexuality, I'm talking more of a diva-esque "quality"; basically just think of the difference between Liza Minnelli and Liam Neeson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarkenfire View Post
    To use a term I heard in terms of acting, there's actors and then there are aacctooors~~~!

    To pre-empt, I mean nothing about his sexuality, I'm talking more of a diva-esque "quality"; basically just think of the difference between Liza Minnelli and Liam Neeson.
    Hmmm....seem legit, I guess. But In terms of what Kaito said, I don't know Vic very well, so I'm just curious, but what makes him stuck up??

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    Hard to explain, moment I realized it was the commentary track of the first episode of Ouran Host Club, but that doesn't help much, does it?

    Lemme listen through it again and see if I can pick out some key lines imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nunnally Vi Brittania View Post
    people like the dude who did Keiichi Maebara (Higurashi) leave much to be desired.
    I totally agree. Higurashi has one of the worst Japanese dubs (especially Keiichi, who almost destroys most of the touching and scary scenes) but also has the best (Mion/Shion, voiced by Yukino Satsuki is one of the most outstanding ones). But it all depends on individual. I've never watched anime dubbed and I don't think I ever will. Cuz' anime is from Japan, and it should be watched in Japanese dub. Plus most fansubbed anime have translation notes so we know actually what the creators are trying to bring out, like jokes and myth stuff which we who are not familiar with Japanese culture don't know. And dubbed ones, I don't think they have 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Phuah View Post
    I totally agree. Higurashi has one of the worst Japanese dubs (especially Keiichi, who almost destroys most of the touching and scary scenes) but also has the best (Mion/Shion, voiced by Yukino Satsuki is one of the most outstanding ones). But it all depends on individual. I've never watched anime dubbed and I don't think I ever will. Cuz' anime is from Japan, and it should be watched in Japanese dub. Plus most fansubbed anime have translation notes so we know actually what the creators are trying to bring out, like jokes and myth stuff which we who are not familiar with Japanese culture don't know. And dubbed ones, I don't think they have 'em.
    I wish they did, though. The only dubbed anime I really like is Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt. That one was top notch, minus a few mediocre voices. I may seem picky when I say this, but Monica Rial doesn't really strike me as the really BA type of voice actor. I mean, she's good, but sometimes I think she overdoes it. As for Higurashi, they should've just left it alone if this was what they were going to make of it. I will never watch the dubbed version of Higurashi again. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeaR View Post
    First I would like to say that I prefer subs and I will add subs whenever I can to everything I watch even if it is in English
    I have have always preferred subs even before I started watching anime so I never have issues reading the subs and watching the anime at the same time

    But I really hate it when people hate on dubs not all dubs are bad I have enjoyed a lot of them and there are some anime I do prefer dubbed
    I can name a few Great Teacher Onizuka, Beck, Cowboy Bebop, Baccano!, Trigun, ect
    Does it mean they suck in Japanese? No it does not but it does mean I prefer those in English.

    Just depends on my preference between each show


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    My reply from one of the other thread from almost a year ago
    What I mean that I like having subs for everything I watch is that I prefer to have subs during movies/tvshows/videogames/and even lyrics for music even if they are in English. I have no problems keeping up with subs and what is happening on the screen at the same time. I also like having subs while watching dubbed anime so I tend pay attention to both versions at the same time and notice the difference.

    But it really depends between the anime.
    There are even some anime that I really enjoy both subbed and dubbed some examples are Death Note, Haruhi, One Piece, and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
    Some that I prefer subbed like Gintama, One Piece, and Gurren Lagann. I prefer English Dubs for Baccano, Code Geass, and Cowboy Bebop. There are also some really bad dubs but I don't really watch those.
    That is just a small example but yea my preference in voice actors and the anime itself might influence me to watch 1 version.
    I recently started watching Cromartie High School in English and the dub is really good and already one of my favorite dubs out there.

    I would also like to point out that I like Manga better
    Last edited by SpeaR; 01-01-2013 at 12:32 PM.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Debate

    Definitely subbed. The only anime I've preferred dubbed over subbed would be Code Geass and BECK. Other than that, subbed all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nunnally Vi Brittania View Post
    I wish they did, though. The only dubbed anime I really like is Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt. That one was top notch, minus a few mediocre voices. I may seem picky when I say this, but Monica Rial doesn't really strike me as the really BA type of voice actor. I mean, she's good, but sometimes I think she overdoes it. As for Higurashi, they should've just left it alone if this was what they were going to make of it. I will never watch the dubbed version of Higurashi again. Ever.
    Yeah. I heard the dubbed version of the scene Mion/Shion was killing Rika, and boy oh boy, they ruined it. It was one of my favourite scenes (though Rika is my favourite character).
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    I really just watch whichever I find. Though I will say for more action/detail(Like something small in the scene must be noticed for the rest to be understood) heavy sieries I prefere dubs just so I can pay attention to the scene. Also there are some series that get majorly edited, which makes me really mad. With that I ussually switch to the sub as soon as I hear of this. Other wise I just watch either or.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate Debate

    Subbed definitely Because it is original and your always sure it is 100% lip synchronised.
    And the emotions are better displayed it's just the best!

    AND SCREW UPS LIKE FUNIMATION ALWAYS SCREW UP DUBS!

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    I prefer subs, I find the Japanese voices more appealing, although I will watch dubs, they're not THAT bad unless... Well.. I'm sure you all have a bad dub come up in your head. But there's series that I enjoy dubbed or subbed, like FMA, Sgt Frog.. or.. Has anyone seen the english dub of Ghost Stories? Sooo funny! Dubs like that are cool. I also think it's kinda interesting how the dubs 'americanize' their references and such for their english speaking audiences. Like Sgt Frog especially. It's interesting to hear the sub and dub in regards to shows like that.

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    Well, I recently watched Hetalia, and suddenly it had me re think a few things about dubbed anime.....

    WHY CAN'T WE HAVE ANIME DUBBED LIKE HETALIA!?


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    It depends on the anime. Majority of animes I will only watched subbed, but a few of them I will only watch dubbed. Example, Cowboy Bebop, I CANNOT stand it subbed. Evangelion, FMA, and GITS I can watch interchangeably, but prefer English VAs.

    Sometimes it doesn't matter about the voice actors. I liked JYB as Vash in Trigun, and I can somewhat stand him as Zero in Marvel vs Capcom 3, but everything else I hear him in makes me wanna shove a knife inside my brain, and yes, that includes him as a Power Ranger.

    And @Jeroen Mathon , Funimation isn't always bad. A lot of the work does seemed rushed at times, but they're not all bad.
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    I hate subbs. Being a notoriously slow reader, I usually end up seeing maybe 10% of the anime. Plus I dislike the VA in subbs, their voices get on my nerves. I've actually stopped watching a series because I couldn't find the second season dubbed. To each their own I suppose.

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    I used to watch my anime with Dubs until I tried Subs. Whenever I see an anime that I've watched is dubbed, 9/10 it sounds awful. I can't drop the Naruto Dub tho..

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