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    Last edited by Missy; 12-14-2012 at 03:13 PM.

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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    Saw this on Facebook. I cried for a couple minutes and just sat there in shock. Why? Just...why?

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    And apparently heres one of the shooters. News says his mother was a teacher there
    Last edited by Ωmega; 12-14-2012 at 02:15 PM. Reason: typos @_@

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    And apparently heres one of the shooters. News says his mother was a teacher there


    ??? I don't think so but eh...

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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    Shooting kids?! Man the shooters are crazy and stupid.

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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    Crazy. definatly crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sackboy View Post


    ??? I don't think so but eh...
    says the video was removed

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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    Read about it, I guess it sucks.
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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    It really grind my gears that the culprit(s) that do a horrendous crimes beat us to killing them, instead they would kill themselves.

    It's horrible knowing what had happened to those children and the adults who have been massacred.

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    I've been following this on NBC News and CNN. Supposedly 20 children, 6 adults, and the killer dead. As well as the killer's mother, I've heard two reports. One says she died at the school and the other says she was shoot at a home residence.

    My heart goes out to the family and friends of those that have lost someone there. What makes this even worse is that it happened around Christmas time, and now those families have to go home without their loved one and deal with a Christmas without them. It truly is heart-wrenching.
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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    Yet more crazies killing more people. Same as every other mass shooting.

    I feel bad for the kids, but I am even more afraid for our 2nd ammendment gun rights. If stuff like this keeps happening, the federal government will probably decide to make ALL GUNS ILLEGAL for civilians to own (be they small .22 pistols, or semi-auto assault rifles, or big honking .50cal BMG shooting sniper rifles that are like mini-cannons, all of which are currently legal in states that you can get gun permits). Only cops and soldiers will be able to legally posses any firearm after the dictatorship rears its ugly head and sweeps away all of our constitutional rights and burns the constitution itself. And sadly incidents like what happened today in that shooting will likely have civilians calling for a dictatiorship, cause they think that harsh government will be the only thing to guarenty their safety (but at the expense of ALL OF OUR RIGHTS). So as sad as I am about those kids dying, I'm 1000 TIMES AS CONCERNED about gun rights (and I don't even own a gun), because I believe the constitution deserves to be upheld as it is our most important law. It is the law of laws. And I fear that this shooter may have committed 1 murder beyond what he intended. He may have MURDERED OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    I never understand why a person would kill innocent people. I doubt that those kids had donr anything to the shooter. this stuff just makes me so, so sad. I am so sorry for those poor kids, especially the survivers. They have to go through life with this psychological scar, something that will never heal. I just hope that the community pulls through.

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    Those kids could have been doctors, firefighters, writers, the very future of our generation! And they're dead! Why would something like this happen? What cruelty possessed that man to go around blatantly shooting people and children without regret!? Just think about all the good those kids could have been to society, how young they were. How many of them had dreams of being anything and then some man whom they had no involvement in the mistakes he was old enough to correct without killing and did it anyway!
    Oh my gosh.....this is making me so upset....those kids...their future is gone. The adults who have been killed...I mourn for them as well. But the man who did all of this and killed himself.....I pity him.

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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    OMG! I just read about this! Some people in this world are just messed up. D:<

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    says the video was removed
    He prolly took it down because people thought that was the killer's YT and I think it isn't...some peopel did and they were attacking him.

    Also...Prolly already known but he's the wrong guy:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-w...on-cbs-2012-12
    http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/14/connec...ional-officer/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sackboy View Post
    He prolly took it down because people thought that was the killer's YT and I think it isn't...some peopel did and they were attacking him.

    Also...Prolly already known but he's the wrong guy:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-w...on-cbs-2012-12
    http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/14/connec...ional-officer/
    So not only was it a completely different Ryan, but it wasnt even the right Ryan, it was his brother Adam. Jesus, news sources.

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    This is just so wrong..ugh

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    I would take this with a grain of salt but...(very gore-ish...beware)
     

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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    We need an "anti passive observer of crime" law. Any person who is aware of online threats and does not dial 911, or in some way contact authorities, then that person is guilty of not reporting the person's threat, and should face long prison sentence.

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    Default Re: Mass Murder @ Elementary School

    How many kids have to be shot before the US government decides that maybe ppl shouldn't be allowed to have guns??!! This kind of crime is virtually un-heard of here in Australia. I don't know anyone that owns a gun, in fact I've never even seen a gun. I don't care how ppl justify it, guns are designed to KILL and that's all they will ever do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    How many kids have to be shot before the US government decides that maybe ppl shouldn't be allowed to have guns??!! This kind of crime is virtually un-heard of here in Australia. I don't know anyone that owns a gun, in fact I've never even seen a gun. I don't care how ppl justify it, guns are designed to KILL and that's all they will ever do.
    But "Guns don't kill people, people kill people!"

    Actually, I hate that argument, too. It's like completely trying to toss out of the window the fact that guns are designed specifically to be weapons. Which doesn't make one bit of sense to me.

    I don't think that guns should be completely banned... Well, honestly, I do. But in North America we have the Second Amendment, and unlike some others (you know, like a whole political party), I'm not going to omit or misinterpret parts of the Constitutions I don't like. It's just that we should have gun control.

    They say that criminals will get guns anyway, but guess what... Some criminals will be stopped if they can't get guns legally. I can't make any claims about what happened here, but it is possible that a situation like this could occur where the guy wouldn't have gotten ahold of guns if he couldn't legally get them. Just one of these cases being avoided by that makes gun control a successful measure. I, for one, value the lives of these children.

    Guns are weapons. They are made to harm. There is no getting around this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bassoonista View Post
    it is possible that a situation like this could occur where the guy wouldn't have gotten ahold of guns if he couldn't legally get them.
    In case you haven't heard, he DIDN'T get them legally. He stole them from his own mother (and then killed her)! His mother was an average law abiding citizen who LEGALLY owned guns. And she is NOT GUILTY OF ANY GUN CRIMES! As far as I know she doesn't have any rap-sheet for gun violence in her past at all.

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    You don't need guns to kill people. If he didn't have a gun, he would've just used something else to slaughter those children. He would've built a bomb through the internet or used chemical means to kill those he wanted. Banning guns isn't going to stop someone from killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HairyCockroach View Post
    You don't need guns to kill people. If he didn't have a gun, he would've just used something else to slaughter those children. He would've built a bomb through the internet or used chemical means to kill those he wanted. Banning guns isn't going to stop someone from killing.
    Guns makes killing lots of people easy. It's so easy, anyone can do it. Even children and the elderly. Takes very little training, requires very little skill, easy to get a hold of.

    It's seriously hard to stab a whole bunch of people. The main problem is that you need to stab someone a whole bunch of times if they're going to actually die, which takes a while, during which the rest of your victims flee in wild panic.

    Bombs aren't actually that good at killing, especially not home made ones like a pipe bomb. They tend to maim a bit, but it's mostly psychological damage.

    Chemical weapons that actually kill require too much lab equipment for children to manufacture. Chances are they'll be dead from the manufacturing process long before they can deliver it. Other than that, you're left with a bunch of noxious gasses and irritants that sure, would have caused injuries, but wouldn’t be nearly as effective as a gun.

    Swords are pretty good, but they're somewhat hard to get a hold of and even harder to use properly. You need years of martial arts practice to properly mass murder with a sword.

    Axes work, but they require a lot of arm strength and are so heavy you're not going to chase anyone down.

    Javelins are okay, but require a lot of skill, and you can only carry so many.

    Crossbows take too long to reload. In a massacre situation, they're almost single-shot.

    Bows require too much arm strength to be deadly in a child's hand. They're also really hard to conceal.

    ... and that's why virtually all spree murders are by gun, and by extension, how restricting gun access will reduce their frequency.
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