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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    The guy that would put off a date to raid with his guild?
    Sounds like a good alternative to me.

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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    Personally, I don't care either way. Some men who are perceived as "bad" may actually not be bad, but putting on an act because they are insecure. Some girls may like the challenge, I could not be arsed.
    I try to not judge people by reputation, but on personality alone. If they are horrid to me, I don't talk to them, as I can't deal with the stress!
    I agree with what other people have said regarding the fact that every girl is different in their preferences. Some are foolish and find disorder appealing, so they tend to be attracted to bad guys.
    I just want a guy who has similar interests and I can actually hold a conversation with...so I tend to be attracted to what others call "boring" guys! Maybe I'm just a "boring" girl.
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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    Well, my idea of a "bad" guy differs from what others may think of it being.
    My family is conservative and would rather that I like someone who looks like a member of a boy band than someone with tattoos, piercings, etc.
    And since I do the exact opposite of what they want, I'm usually attracted to those types.
    But as far as attitude, I wouldn't stand for someone who treated me wrongly.

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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeref View Post
    With "bad guys" maybe she feels like he can change? Maybe she loves the potential, and wants to help him? Everyone has different tastes.
    Here's a question: What gives her the cojones to believe she is entitled to change him? What kind of reaction could I- rightfully- expect were I to approach a girl I didn't wholly approve of, engage her in some social context, date her, and then finally- after weeks, months or even years of apparent approval and even flattery of her personality and conduct- try to change her? Perhaps- and I have to warn everyone that this is a damned revolutionary idea- perhaps, just maybe, people should avoid those who they think aren't suited for them rather than engage them all the more. Maybe- just hear me out here- if you think someone is totally wrong and in need of reformation, then perhaps you should move on and look for someone better suited to you.

    I have wasted far more time trying to speak reason into people and trying to get them to change to my idea of prudence than I will ever spend in anything approaching happiness. (Don't misinterpret this as some emo thing, either; I merely distinguish between happiness (exceedingly rare) and contentedness (very common) in my life.) I have wasted so much time trying to change people who make themselves into human obstacles (and still do- I'm wasting my time posting this reply, aren't I?) that I sure as Hell am not about to waste time on a relationship of my own choosing trying to sculpt a better partner when I could likely just as easily either (1) find another person far better suited to my eccentricities anyway or (2) make a different compromise of personalities instead or (3) forgo the process temporarily and postpone the quest for another indeterminate time. If it's a no-go as-is, then it's likely time better spent elsewhere. Time is scarce, after all, even if when you're in your twenties and in good health it may seems like the supply of oil circa 1900. Changing people is not impossible, but is is usually very difficult, and I do not want to become a Sisyphus to my giant-boulder girlfriend.

    Women/girls are (socially) permitted to "change a man" even when superficially annoying behavior is the only issue, but I can all but guarantee that if a guy tried to "change a woman" then he would be facing a sea of condemnation for not allowing her to be herself or for being controlling, etc. Why? Can't we men go ahead and point out that a woman trying to change a man is an expression of control, the very sort of control that women incessantly (and I would say rightly) balk at when men attempt to exercise that same measure of control? I say, an even standard for all is the only just social standard. Either we can all try to socially engineer one another, or if nobody wants a controlling man then no one should want a controlling woman either. Fair enough?




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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    For me I don't like bad guys. Sure they may seem appealing but they're usually jerks who treat you like crap. Also I don't like guys who go out of their way to be a gentleman because sometimes it's just a front (not always). I guess you can say I'd be most interested in someone who isn't a good or a bad guy. Someone who is somewhat normal, with similar interests and a decent sense of hospitality. They don't have to have the greatest looks either as long as they aren't displeasing to look at.

    Let's be honest, I do like to observe hot guys but just because they're hot doesn't mean I'd ever date them. I'm too overly cautious.

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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    Bad guys are a no-no to me, it's an instant turn off. I can't understand why some girls can put up with them.

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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAsterisk! View Post
    Here's a question: What gives her the cojones to believe she is entitled to change him? What kind of reaction could I- rightfully- expect were I to approach a girl I didn't wholly approve of, engage her in some social context, date her, and then finally- after weeks, months or even years of apparent approval and even flattery of her personality and conduct- try to change her? Perhaps- and I have to warn everyone that this is a damned revolutionary idea- perhaps, just maybe, people should avoid those who they think aren't suited for them rather than engage them all the more. Maybe- just hear me out here- if you think someone is totally wrong and in need of reformation, then perhaps you should move on and look for someone better suited to you.

    I have wasted far more time trying to speak reason into people and trying to get them to change to my idea of prudence than I will ever spend in anything approaching happiness. (Don't misinterpret this as some emo thing, either; I merely distinguish between happiness (exceedingly rare) and contentedness (very common) in my life.) I have wasted so much time trying to change people who make themselves into human obstacles (and still do- I'm wasting my time posting this reply, aren't I?) that I sure as Hell am not about to waste time on a relationship of my own choosing trying to sculpt a better partner when I could likely just as easily either (1) find another person far better suited to my eccentricities anyway or (2) make a different compromise of personalities instead or (3) forgo the process temporarily and postpone the quest for another indeterminate time. If it's a no-go as-is, then it's likely time better spent elsewhere. Time is scarce, after all, even if when you're in your twenties and in good health it may seems like the supply of oil circa 1900. Changing people is not impossible, but is is usually very difficult, and I do not want to become a Sisyphus to my giant-boulder girlfriend.

    Women/girls are (socially) permitted to "change a man" even when superficially annoying behavior is the only issue, but I can all but guarantee that if a guy tried to "change a woman" then he would be facing a sea of condemnation for not allowing her to be herself or for being controlling, etc. Why? Can't we men go ahead and point out that a woman trying to change a man is an expression of control, the very sort of control that women incessantly (and I would say rightly) balk at when men attempt to exercise that same measure of control? I say, an even standard for all is the only just social standard. Either we can all try to socially engineer one another, or if nobody wants a controlling man then no one should want a controlling woman either. Fair enough?

    This whole thread reminds me of a post by Maddox, specifically points numbers three and eleven: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....gi?u=26_things (The rest are lowly asinine humor, and don't apply here anyway.)
    Yea. Generally, going into a relationship with the mentality of "i'm going to change this person" is pretty strange and kind of pointless. I mean, you should date who you like, not date who you don't really like just so you can "change" them later.
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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    There are various misconceptions when it comes to gender+relationships. Personally, or frankly from my experience and others around me, it never is about being a "good" or "bad" guy. Sure, depending on preference that could be a bonus for most of us, but when it comes down to it, it seems that it's all about who you are and how you act at that particular moment in time, not what comes after. "First Impressions" say all. This is simply my opinion. Now, I'd elaborate, but that's an unnecessary 8-12 paragraphs.
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    Well you can consider one that does drugs..bad...or good to some...same thing with alcohol and sex

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    Some girls like bad guys, some girls like good guys. It depends on the girl's standards and personal preference IMO. Then again, all it takes is one good guy to sweep any girl off her feet

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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    Maybe if it wasn't implied douchebaggery from males is affection..

    Other than that, that's all I have to say.


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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by TadashiED View Post
    Some girls like bad guys, some girls like good guys. It depends on the girl's standards and personal preference IMO. Then again, all it takes is one good guy to sweep any girl off her feet
    Exactly! Though, your last statement is a little skewed. Really, any guy can sweep some girl "off her feet". I don't see why you focused on "good", since I've seen on here that the definition of "good" is... fuzzy... at best. XD


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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    I would definitely choose the nice guy, although sometimes it's hard to tell the difference. My first boyfriend was a 'nice guy' until we moved in together and controlled my life for 2 years. Three attempts at getting a restraining order, and random death threats when he gets bored, and I can say it is DEFINITELY not worth going after bad guys.

    Having said that, I do think there are girls that just go after bad boys for some reason. I guess they just like the drama

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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollowriverrun View Post
    Well, my idea of a "bad" guy differs from what others may think of it being.
    My family is conservative and would rather that I like someone who looks like a member of a boy band than someone with tattoos, piercings, etc.
    And since I do the exact opposite of what they want, I'm usually attracted to those types.
    But as far as attitude, I wouldn't stand for someone who treated me wrongly.
    My dad hates piercings and tattoos too, despite being pretty liberal!
    I wouldn't say that really makes someone a "bad" boy though; tattoos have become more common than they used to be.
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    Default Re: Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

    I think good and bad are misnomers.

    A good guy is probably a shy guy or an introvert. A good guy doesn't take risks (which includes risking rejection) and probably isn't very decisive.

    A bad guy is probably an extravert. My guess is that bad guys tend to take more risks, are more decisive, a little inconsiderate and a little narcissistic.

    I'm not an expert by any means ... just fragments of thoughts and observations over the years.

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