Are "bad" guys really more appealing to girls than "good" guys?

[Mizukoi Kurumi]

This is a question that I've always wanted to ask the female community. Is there any truth to what guys in the internet (esp 9gag) say that being a "good" guy would make him more unlikely to attract girls? What's your take on this? Anyone can give out your opinions.

For me I...

 

personally think that males and females alike are initially attracted to one another based on their superficial appearance. After physical attraction comes the compatibility check: both will see if they can get along in the long run based on the things they agree/disagree on.

In other words, in my opinion, appearance comes first before personality. Maybe, just maybe, those internet guys were not just that attractive enough, appearance-wise, despite being gentlemen.

[IluvAllison]

Every girl and boy are different and therefore has different preferences, some like bad boys, some dont. What is most common i dont know tho...

[nrL]

They like evil because they are EVIL
PURGE the GIRLS

[DOOM!]

It's simple: girls don't think with their brain; they think with their ovaries. They know it's not hard to get laid, so they don't put much effort in finding a proper mate. They'll just go with "I deserve the best, so whichever shows themselves off as better than the rest will do for me". Then they later end up realizing who they hooked up with, regret it, dump them saying typical womanish crap like "You're not the one I fell in love with" or "I just realized we're too different" then go about their miserable lives bitching "What a jerk, this is all his/her fault!".

[Mizukoi Kurumi]

It's simple: girls don't think with their brain; they think with their ovaries. They know it's not hard to get laid, so they don't put much effort in finding a proper mate. They'll just go with "I deserve the best, so whichever shows themselves off as better than the rest will do for me". Then they later end up realizing who they hooked up with, regret it, dump them saying typical womanish crap like "You're not the one I fell in love with" or "I just realized we're too different" then go about their miserable lives bitching "What a jerk, this is all his/her fault!".

...sounds like you've been through a lot?

[DOOM!]

...sounds like you've been through a lot?

My experience doubles my age. I feel like an old geezer even when I walk around my peers.

[nrL]

My experience doubles my age. I feel like an old geezer even when I walk around my peers.

That's not good, the older you feel the older you get.

[DOOM!]

That's not good, the older you feel the older you get.

I know, right! Every time there's an event and I'm invited, I pass because I'm never in the mood. I'm even starting to walk down stairs one step at a time. And I'm getting urges to sleep at 11 PM! I need Shock Therapy or something!

[Meenah]

I must be completely different than most girls, then. Guys that are considered "bad" I'm disgusted by them, I don't spend time trying to get them to like me or anything. With a guy that is good, I need to find something I will like from them of course. It doesn't matter how good looking you are, if you meet my standards, things will be fine. But nonetheless I always give everyone a chance. I don't tolerate guys who can be prone to be controlling or give a bad aura of some sort.

I bet there are guys that don't want to be pitied for bad experiences but I don't blame you being frustrated by girls out there. Personality is something I'm after, really. Looks are just a plus.

[nslay]

I think bad guys tend to take more risks and are more decisive than good guys. Women probably think the former is more interesting than someone who doesn't take risks and is indecisive.

I'd guess that good guys, stereotypically indecisive and prudent, probably don't actively go out and meet women either.

Good guys are probably less interesting and in social situations with women less often. That's two strikes against them.

[Sparks Of Logic]

I think bad guys tend to take more risks and are more decisive than good guys. Women probably think the former is more interesting than someone who doesn't take risks and is indecisive.

I'd guess that good guys, stereotypically indecisive and prudent, probably don't actively go out and meet women either.

Good guys are probably less interesting and in social situations with women less often. That's two strikes against them.

This is spot on what I was going to say. In the long run, good guys do tend to get a few good women. When older, women (hopefully) start looking for stability rather than just lust. Also, it really is a lot harder for men to flirt with women than the other way around. As a male, you are expected to be able to approach a girl in some clever way, get her to like your personality, be able to support her in any way she demands, and be attractive during the whole thing. As a semi-attractive girl, you can be a complete ditz and still get the guy to like you.

[DOOM!]

Personality is something I'm after, really. Looks are just a plus.

That's what they all say, and they probably mean it, but when on the field, they act on instinct.

[-Kairi-]

I must be completely different than most girls, then. Guys that are considered "bad" I'm disgusted by them, I don't spend time trying to get them to like me or anything. With a guy that is good, I need to find something I will like from them of course. It doesn't matter how good looking you are, if you meet my standards, things will be fine. But nonetheless I always give everyone a chance. I don't tolerate guys who can be prone to be controlling or give a bad aura of some sort.

I bet there are guys that don't want to be pitied for bad experiences but I don't blame you being frustrated by girls out there. Personality is something I'm after, really. Looks are just a plus.

I would have to agree with you on there, guys who think being a jerk and down right inconsiderate tells a lot about their parents. I mean, my nephew was trying to act all gangster like till I chucked him around a bit, and showed him how much a bad boy images does to some girls. I would rather be strict and stern if I had children, don't want them growing up to be wannabe's bad boys and harlets. And Dr.LeDoom? Not every girl on this forsaken planet is how you say they are, I rather perfer a male who's considerate, kind and caring instead of stuck up meathead.

[aether]

It depends really
as I have found some girls who like the quiet nerdy guys like myself and there are those who prefer the opposite and there are those who just prefer the same gender as themselves. So it depends upon the person really

[darksky967]

as someone already said... different girls have different preferences... case closed.. in my opninion though, the kind of girls who are attracted to bad guys are not very bright.

[Curious Uchia]

people want what they cant have. Even if they won't act on it. For example happy girl in relationship with guy, this girl is pretty n so is her man. There is a guy that doesn't find her appealing.
Its human nature and a fact, that she no matter what emotion she feels.. will be heightened to either get his attention in a good or bad way. (Girls no im not saying she is a {word meaning one who engages in sexual acts for financial compensation has been redacted} n all women
think like this) I'm simply stating... ITS a fact that she would either want him to think she is cute either till he does or just in general. Not saying she gonna leave her man for him or go cheat. but every one wants to feel pretty. So she might seek a bit more attention from him then another guy that already thinks she is pretty. Facts>opinion.

(oh god i feel like im gonna get trampled lmao... REMEMBER LADIES I DIDN'T SAY SHE WAS A {word meaning one who engages in sexual acts for financial compensation has been redacted} OR I KNOW HOW U WILL ACT IN THAT SITUATION! DONT KILL ME I HAVE A PUPPY TO FEED!)

[.Sev]

They want a big sack. If you've got a big sack, you can land any chick you want.


Source: My sack told me so.

[Hideki Motosuwa.]

Well, these "bad boys" likely have plenty of drive, initiative and assertiveness. Girls seem to like someone who engages them first, and usually these outgoing bad boys fit the bill... at first sometimes. Let's face it, most "good guys" stay off to the side and just let things happen. In most cases, you know what doesn't happen? You don't get the girl. Personally, I don't understand women who say they like nice guys, but end up with the complete opposite. Half the time this bad guy is a complete jerk, which the girl later comes to regret, complain about, cry over, and take months to "get over." Good Lord, unnecessary drama there! But then again, if you don't try, you never know, right? I always thought females had this whole precognitive ability to deduce whether or not a guy is right for her in the beginning. Meh, that's hogwash though.

And if that person (could be the most unattractive wench or dude in the world) is who your heart goes after, then of course he/she will be attractive in your eyes no matter what. Initial (or superficial) attraction has it's fair share of failures. Heck, I don't want a girl who is interested in me or in a relationship with me to think "If only I were prettier, I wouldn't have to worry about losing him to another girl."

[Acnologia]

The thing is, these "nice guys" are only nice until the girl says she isn't interested, then they freak out and talk about what a terrible person she supposedly is.

With "bad guys" maybe she feels like he can change? Maybe she loves the potential, and wants to help him? Everyone has different tastes.

[TheAsterisk!]

With "bad guys" maybe she feels like he can change? Maybe she loves the potential, and wants to help him? Everyone has different tastes.

Here's a question: What gives her the cojones to believe she is entitled to change him? What kind of reaction could I- rightfully- expect were I to approach a girl I didn't wholly approve of, engage her in some social context, date her, and then finally- after weeks, months or even years of apparent approval and even flattery of her personality and conduct- try to change her? Perhaps- and I have to warn everyone that this is a damned revolutionary idea- perhaps, just maybe, people should avoid those who they think aren't suited for them rather than engage them all the more. Maybe- just hear me out here- if you think someone is totally wrong and in need of reformation, then perhaps you should move on and look for someone better suited to you.

I have wasted far more time trying to speak reason into people and trying to get them to change to my idea of prudence than I will ever spend in anything approaching happiness. (Don't misinterpret this as some emo thing, either; I merely distinguish between happiness (exceedingly rare) and contentedness (very common) in my life.) I have wasted so much time trying to change people who make themselves into human obstacles (and still do- I'm wasting my time posting this reply, aren't I?) that I sure as Hell am not about to waste time on a relationship of my own choosing trying to sculpt a better partner when I could likely just as easily either (1) find another person far better suited to my eccentricities anyway or (2) make a different compromise of personalities instead or (3) forgo the process temporarily and postpone the quest for another indeterminate time. If it's a no-go as-is, then it's likely time better spent elsewhere. Time is scarce, after all, even if when you're in your twenties and in good health it may seems like the supply of oil circa 1900. Changing people is not impossible, but is is usually very difficult, and I do not want to become a Sisyphus to my giant-boulder girlfriend.

Women/girls are (socially) permitted to "change a man" even when superficially annoying behavior is the only issue, but I can all but guarantee that if a guy tried to "change a woman" then he would be facing a sea of condemnation for not allowing her to be herself or for being controlling, etc. Why? Can't we men go ahead and point out that a woman trying to change a man is an expression of control, the very sort of control that women incessantly (and I would say rightly) balk at when men attempt to exercise that same measure of control? I say, an even standard for all is the only just social standard. Either we can all try to socially engineer one another, or if nobody wants a controlling man then no one should want a controlling woman either. Fair enough?




This whole thread reminds me of a post by Maddox, specifically points numbers three and eleven: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....gi?u=26_things (The rest are lowly asinine humor, and don't apply here anyway.)

[Miss Moonlight]

Here's a question: What gives her the cojones to believe she is entitled to change him? What kind of reaction could I- rightfully- expect were I to approach a girl I didn't wholly approve of, engage her in some social context, date her, and then finally- after weeks, months or even years of apparent approval and even flattery of her personality and conduct- try to change her? Perhaps- and I have to warn everyone that this is a damned revolutionary idea- perhaps, just maybe, people should avoid those who they think aren't suited for them rather than engage them all the more. Maybe- just hear me out here- if you think someone is totally wrong and in need of reformation, then perhaps you should move on and look for someone better suited to you.

I have wasted far more time trying to speak reason into people and trying to get them to change to my idea of prudence than I will ever spend in anything approaching happiness. (Don't misinterpret this as some emo thing, either; I merely distinguish between happiness (exceedingly rare) and contentedness (very common) in my life.) I have wasted so much time trying to change people who make themselves into human obstacles (and still do- I'm wasting my time posting this reply, aren't I?) that I sure as Hell am not about to waste time on a relationship of my own choosing trying to sculpt a better partner when I could likely just as easily either (1) find another person far better suited to my eccentricities anyway or (2) make a different compromise of personalities instead or (3) forgo the process temporarily and postpone the quest for another indeterminate time. If it's a no-go as-is, then it's likely time better spent elsewhere. Time is scarce, after all, even if when you're in your twenties and in good health it may seems like the supply of oil circa 1900. Changing people is not impossible, but is is usually very difficult, and I do not want to become a Sisyphus to my giant-boulder girlfriend.

Women/girls are (socially) permitted to "change a man" even when superficially annoying behavior is the only issue, but I can all but guarantee that if a guy tried to "change a woman" then he would be facing a sea of condemnation for not allowing her to be herself or for being controlling, etc. Why? Can't we men go ahead and point out that a woman trying to change a man is an expression of control, the very sort of control that women incessantly (and I would say rightly) balk at when men attempt to exercise that same measure of control? I say, an even standard for all is the only just social standard. Either we can all try to socially engineer one another, or if nobody wants a controlling man then no one should want a controlling woman either. Fair enough?

This whole thread reminds me of a post by Maddox, specifically points numbers three and eleven: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....gi?u=26_things (The rest are lowly asinine humor, and don't apply here anyway.)

Yea. Generally, going into a relationship with the mentality of "i'm going to change this person" is pretty strange and kind of pointless. I mean, you should date who you like, not date who you don't really like just so you can "change" them later.

[Xeyuzio]

I knew this ugly guy that was a douche to girls, but they liked him back.

[skittystephy1980]

well how does the old saying go every good girl likes a bad boy

[Alice Lost]

I think everyones preference is different... ...but, I read in a psychology book, women prefer a man who can support them. It also said guy's prefer a girl based on her looks. This study trancends cultures on every continent, according to the book.

[luz~]

The reason the idea that females like bad boys is due to the fact that females like guys who are more dominant. Usually it's the bad boys who run the school, sometimes the popular boys.
In my preference I do enjoy guys with the intimidation factor because it's means he isn't a wuss for lack of a better colorful word.