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    Default Euthanasia

    So, apparently, We have this group debate on Saturday.
    I need all the arguments I need to win this one. I'm the Deputy/Assistant Leader of Opposition. My role is to rebut(contradict) the Deputy Prime Minister.

    Our topic is...ugh. Euthanasia a.k.a Mercy Killing.

    I'm on the negative side (I was appointed to. But I'm really a pro on this issue)

    This is my argument: (Please help me! I really want to beat those groupmates of mine who didn't listen to me when I asked them to put in a side where I can truly defend)

    "Everyone has the right to life. Even though the chance of surviving a chronic/terminal illness are very slim. We cannot always resort to killing just to free one from misery and pain. Killing remains killing. The definition remains the same.

    Euthanasia is considered morally and ethical wrong.. Because a person's death cannot be decided by any man. And the assurance of euthanasia succeeding with the patient's consent is not even absolutely true. Some of these acts are done by the doctor's influence. Instead of instantly killing someone which can still give an impact to the people around the sick person. We should just the double the care to make the remaining days of "living" of someone worth "living".

    Is that okay? Please validate my argument. I really need all the help I can get before Saturday! :3 I'll appreciate everyone's effort. Feel to criticize my work my argument so that I can construct another one that is better.
    I'll also appreciate some ideas that can make my argument so great that the PRO people will find difficulty to rebut it.

    Please Pretty Please! )

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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    It's hard for me to help you support your arguments because I'm pro on the issue, myself. Perhaps your argument could work, but I'm not sure how would that really work during your debate though. I feel like there could be more done. I suggest doing some research on why is it best to keep a person alive.

    So why are you on the negative side? o_o;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seung-li View Post

    So why are you on the negative side? o_o;
    My groupmates forced me to join the negative side because the negative side lacks one member. While the positive has excessive members. And that's the reason why I wanted to win the debate, to show them that the topic isn't enough to make you win. The arguments have their part and how can you deliver them.

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    I can't help you back up your argument either because I'm pro-euthanasia.

    I put down my kitty before. It was a painful drawn out experience since all the vets were closed. But long story short. If someone or something is suffering and there's no chance they are ever going to survive their sufferings. Why make the misery so drawn out?

    Although there was this one time a girl in my county got in a car wreck and was on life support and was braindead. The parents pulled her plug only after a few days. Seriously I don't think they made it to a week. I was soooo confused at this. I thought maybe that choice was made too quick. At least give it a while for all the swelling to potentially go down. A few days ain't gunna do anything. But otherwise I'm rather for it, especially if it's their own wishes.


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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    Well, It seems like our topic is really one-sided. But anyway, I ain't gonna lose without a fight! :3
    Hahaha. thanks guys for the wonderful opinions. My mind is still accepting more though

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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    What a nice word for cold murder :P

    I'd rather spend the rest of my life in a wheel chair than satisfy a bunch of people who blame me for something i didn't even know was wrecking my life but they did and they were paid for it lol
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    Rationality > Morals

    Just saying you got on the bad side of the debate.
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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    Quote Originally Posted by a R b a c Y k View Post
    Rationality > Morals

    Just saying you got on the bad side of the debate.
    When you get paid to do something you're supposed to do your job :/ Not leave someone helpless and clueless

    I guess we should pay everyone that suddenly finds out they had no idea what they were doing

    And when they told me I did exactly what they wanted me to until they started to threaten to murder me

    They wouldn't have allowed me to be free anyway. The entire situation is a bunch of lies lol

    The real reason I didn't actually leave is because they wanted to frell up what I had :P
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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    Too short, wouldn't fq.

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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    They purposely left important things out so I'd make bad decisions and now they do things like show me thread titles 'Misbehaved' animal euthanasia

    I am misbehaved because I actually tried to go get freedom :P

    People suck

    They also confused the grozit out of me when I remembered things
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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    I am also pro when it comes to this issue, but you might want to have some concrete facts backing up your statements. Perhaps you can look up legal terms of when its manslaughter and what not...how euthanasia stands before the law. You also mentioned something about euthanasia being influenced by a doctor's decision...have some cases where it supports your claim. You can pull out the religious card, but that will be a hot mess and will likely lead to a whole new argument.
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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuuchun View Post
    I am also pro when it comes to this issue, but you might want to have some concrete facts backing up your statements. Perhaps you can look up legal terms of when its manslaughter and what not...how euthanasia stands before the law. You also mentioned something about euthanasia being influenced by a doctor's decision...have some cases where it supports your claim. You can pull out the religious card, but that will be a hot mess and will likely lead to a whole new argument.

    The religious card would be my last resort if I can't think of any more arguments. :3

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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    Same as most people--I'm also pro-euthanasia :P

    Using the religious card as a last resort would be fine I guess.
    You can also argue that legalizing euthanasia might lead to abuse by both doctors and patients.
    Family members/friends might sometimes pressure the doctor/patient into accepting euthanasia.

    Tbh I think it's a losing cause. Many things are prohibited in the world today solely due to religious reasons... XD

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    Here's all I can do for you:

    There's the issue of suicide by doctor. Would this just be an excuse to end one's own life? That factors in the question of what do you define an illness as deathly, and what exact chances they have of surviving and/or time to live. Then there is the issue of who decides. The doctor or the patient? Even that will spur controversy because it is all based on relative judgement. Some people will throw in the towel if they even have minor cancer, but others will hold on until the bitter end. This is especially the case for mothers of young children. Also, what if the said patient is told there is no other way, where there really is. In this case, you can tell the story of Lorenzo's Oil, where Lorenzo faced a deadly disease known as ALD. Everyone claimed it there was no cure, however, Lorenzo's parents discovered a cure and Lorenzo lived to 35. And of course, if all else fails, throw in the religious card (I highly recommend you don't.) It all breaks down to who judges, and can it be judged correctly.

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    Default Re: Euthanasia

    Quote Originally Posted by I A View Post
    Here's all I can do for you:

    There's the issue of suicide by doctor. Would this just be an excuse to end one's own life? That factors in the question of what do you define an illness as deathly, and what exact chances they have of surviving and/or time to live. Then there is the issue of who decides. The doctor or the patient? Even that will spur controversy because it is all based on relative judgement. Some people will throw in the towel if they even have minor cancer, but others will hold on until the bitter end. This is especially the case for mothers of young children. Also, what if the said patient is told there is no other way, where there really is. In this case, you can tell the story of Lorenzo's Oil, where Lorenzo faced a deadly disease known as ALD. Everyone claimed it there was no cure, however, Lorenzo's parents discovered a cure and Lorenzo lived to 35. And of course, if all else fails, throw in the religious card (I highly recommend you don't.) It all breaks down to who judges, and can it be judged correctly.

    Wikipedia Entry for Lorenzo's Oil

    Wow. I'm not aware of this case. Thanks for this one! :3
    This is a great help indeed.

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