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Last edited by cowtipper; 09-26-2012 at 10:49 PM. Reason: trolls r trolls...4now
Trolling is the wrong word. I'm apathetic, and if he did respond with an attack, I'd let it go.
His logic was faulty, especially his delivery in his posts. I moved on it. I'd expect any of you to do the same on a debate forum.
Besides, we are on a debate forum, correct?
You need to keep your nose out of things you don't understand anything about. The M-16 has essentially been replaced by the M4. The only ones who really use M-16s are special forces guys who prefer them. Also, i'm not some Army or Marine field grunt. I'm a United States Navy Nuclear Propulsion Engineer/Scientist.
Now tell me, who the hell are you?
oh, and just so i don't forget to mention, In the Navy we certify in the M-14.
Everything aside I am a classically educated young man.
My educational background isn't entirely math or sciences, but rather founded upon political sciences, philosophy, history, religious studies (Islam, Judaism, Christianity, as well as Daoism and Theravada Buddhism).
Regardless I don't believe you are an engineer. If you were you would not be posting like that. By the looks of your profile you may have a B.S, but I question that. I assume you are most likely part of the military, but nothing more beyond that.
I don't like cigarettes.
...Not much else to say after thread has been derailed hardcore from a debate about cigs to people's differing educational backgrounds. Oh and hey look, Yoda. o:
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OT. The next food would be nuts, and any other food that had huge allergic reactions.
Last edited by Kaleohano; 09-27-2012 at 12:45 AM.
I know some really smart and really stupid people that smoke. It's a fight only few can win. Once addicted, takes alot to turn back.
It's not illegal, so they can sell as they please, cuz slowly killing people isn't the same as killing people. Yeah, thats the logic there.
The OP's post seriously made me laugh. No, I don't smoke, and if people want to smoke, please don't smoke next to me. I'll never smoke any cigarette in my entire life. However if people want to smoke, then it's up to them, really. I know that some people will literally become a cranky walking zombie if they don't smoke. True story.
Why should I have to pay more for my cigarettes? I already pay ridiculous taxes on them, and I already have to smoke in odd and secluded areas when in public. It's really pathetic how far some non-smokers take it. The second hand smoke you encountered from my cigarette for those brief seconds that you walked past me are not going to ruin your life. Get over it.
I'd have to agree with Ann about second hand smoke. Unless you're a kid with a parent that smokes or your significant other smokes you're not going to have any issues with it. Don't see the problem with separating smokers and non-smokers in places like restaurants either. Worked in the past. That said, prohibition simply doesn't work. Just look at Mexico. Think the cartels would be as big of an issue if drugs where legal? Probably not. Also looked at what happened here when they tried to outlaw beer here. So simply banning something isn't going to work. Not to mention it's the government simply butting in where it doesn't need to.
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The OP: Should he be banned?
I'm not one for smoking, but the more laws you have the less freedom you have. Who is the government to say what you can and can't eat or drink, when you can or can't sleep, etc? It's none of their business, and they'd be over using their power. Also, remember what happened with alcohol? Even though it was banned, you still had bootleggers and all that jazz. That's why the law was lifted, and alcohol is still legal. Tobacco would be the same way. People would still find ways to get it, and there would be an uproar over it becoming illegal.
Smoking is bad.
It causes lung cancer.
I say tax the living daylights out of tobacco. You can still smoke, but you're paying the huge cost to society your smoking habit is causing on your own.
Last edited by Eris; 09-27-2012 at 02:34 PM.
Smokers have taken enough flak over their habits. :/
Um, the huge cost to society? oh please do elaborate.Originally Posted by Eris
Also, the taxes on tobacco products are already insane compared to other goods. Why not over tax people who drive cars? or people who add garbage to the landfill? I mean hell, we want to tax everyone who makes the world a little less healthy, right? So let's tax junk foods and water bottles, and power lines, and red meats.
(No, I am not saying that cigarettes and junk foods are the same, but they are both very bad for your health.)
Last edited by Annie Hall; 09-27-2012 at 03:33 PM.
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