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    Default What do you think of the Military

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    On a different forum, on a thread about Vegans/Vegitarians, you can already guess that i said i didn't like them. But this forum displays what you've entered as your occupation. For me it simply says "Military"

    My comment was very simple and very Kaleohano.
    I prefer to call them Scum/Vermin.
    I then was quoted by an angry little british man who had this to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Necropolis View Post
    Anyone associated with militaries are bad people in my books. You contribute to a machine that kills. It's no wonder you like to eat meat, being a killer yourself. And don't say "oh I don't fight on the front lines" you contribute to the killing and so you are just as guilty.

    Your hands are covered, no, dripping, with the blood of innocents.

    If anyone is scum it's the murderers and thieves that "work" in the military, as lapdogs of corrupt beaurocrats. Anyone in any army is a grunt, except those in charge, who are sick-minded bastards anyway.
    (I'll continue to post what he says as the conversation with him further develops.)

    it did make me curious though, what do you guys think of your military? And what do you think of foreign militaries?

    personally, this is what i think of pretty much any military

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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    Well, it depends on which side of the military you're talking about.

    The Good side military does kill, but they also save lives too. When Haiti had their earthquake, the U.S. Air Force flown hundreds of sorties to move hundreds of thousands of supplies in aid into the country and thousands of people as refugees out of Haiti. Hell, one of my C-17's carried a little Iraqi boy from Iraq to Hawaii to receive the dire medical treatment he needed to live.

    The Bad side is the side with all the bull crap that ties everyone up in red tape, keeps people from doing their job in the most effiecent manner, allows the laziest to get free-rides through out, and punishes the hardest working guys with more hard work and enough crap to make them drown. Plus you also have the idiots that paint the worst possible image for the military, pissing on dead bodies, posing with naked prisoners, killing innocent people, getting in trouble with alcohol (and usually off base), commiting rape, and doing other crimes that make us much less welcome around the world (especially in areas right next to the base).
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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    I have friends and family currently in the military, or are veterans. I support them and their fellows who serve for family and country. The people who "point the army and shoot" -- not so much.
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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    I think everyone believes they're just doing their job. Most of the time, the higher-ups are to be blamed.

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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleohano View Post
    The Brits haven't had a decent rifle since WW!. Just saying.

    I've notice this stinginess from few that I've come across.
    I just lol at what happened to their Empire, and move on.




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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    Well i could look at this from 2 perspectives...

    If noone would fight... including the military we would have peace and prosper. But there are always lunatics who think they have to. Soooo Yeah its great to have the military.. So they can protect us from lunatics.

    Go military, go, go go go! <-- Or something like it.

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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    I live in a military city.

    Last time I checked we have two air bases and a huge army base. A lot of my friends and family are serving active duty. I personally was in JROTC, and I'll be enlisting in the Navy soon.

    I have nothing but support for our awesome as hell men and women in uniform.

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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    WAR...is like bad dude........*smoke puff* No but like I don't approve of war at all.
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    Its like this.. No military no earth.. get it?

    We need the military for peace.. hippies don't understand. While the military is takeing action defending are lifes.. are loved one all we non military people do is talk crap or pray from them. I love the military supporter of the usa since 1993 xD

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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    You mean specifically the American military? Well, it the main reason it looks the way it does is because it costs too much to dismantle down to a reasonable size. The Russians got off easy in that regard, because their economy collapsed, which allowed them to sell off a lot of the junk they were stuck with. This puts the US in a damned if you do, damned if you don't type scenario. Can't downscale the military, because that would tank the economy (much of it revolves around producing war materiel); yet the country suffers because the military is eating the budget, leading to an ever growing deficit, which leads to unease in the stock market.

    For the most part, the military isn't actually doing anything meaningful. Almost all of what it's been doing since the cold war has been dealing with blow back from cold war proxy warfare; and what it will do next is deal with the blow back from the stuff it's up to now. It's like a dog chasing it's own tail.
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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    I'm going to Navy basic December 4th so that should answer some of my opinion. Although looking through history there are some atrocities that have been committed like the Sand Creek Massacre, The bombing of Dresden, the My Lai Massacre and the just the general devastation but on the flip side generally America helps put the countries back together and improve their living standards. In my book it evens out.

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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleohano View Post

    personally, this is what i think of pretty much any military

    Nice one.

    I actually was going to join the Army after graduating high school. I changed my mind because of various reasons.

    Military from any country is controlled by the government. "Go kill those people right there." "Yes, Sir." "Go bomb that country right there." "Yes, Sir." All they do is follow orders and get paid for it. It's just a job. Some do it to get out, others for their country, and others for whatever reason. I support my country's (America) military. I send care packages and stuff. I see nothing wrong with the military, but sometimes I think the governments should fight their own wars instead of hiding behind an army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrellxJozette View Post
    WAR...is like bad dude........*smoke puff* No but like I don't approve of war at all.
    the question wasn't what you thought about war. The military does a lot more things than just fight wars. The question was on your opinion of the Military.

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    I'm going to Navy basic December 4th so that should answer some of my opinion. Although looking through history there are some atrocities that have been committed like the Sand Creek Massacre, The bombing of Dresden, the My Lai Massacre and the just the general devastation but on the flip side generally America helps put the countries back together and improve their living standards. In my book it evens out.
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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    I don't quite understand why people say they are against the military, specifically. It's perfectly understandable to be against war and bloodshed, but being unsupportive of the force that is supposed to serve and protect you and your friends and family is really arrogant, in my humble opinion. In a perfect world diplomacy would be the ideal means to resolve conflicts, but diplomacy can only go so far in our world.

    I do admit, that I believe the US military and government in general do enter in places and businesses when it's unnecessary at times, but I'm still very supportive of our forces. My grandpa and dad were in the Army, my sister is joining the Navy, and I myself would be in basic training for the Marines if I hadn't been DQ'd in MEPS for having a history of epilepsy.

    There have been stories of US soldiers doing terrible things while out in the field, whether it be torture, causing civilian casualties, etc. Whether those stories are real or fabricated, I do believe that the good that the military does for our country far outweighs the bad.
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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    I do not like war. At all, however I have very high respect to the US military (and government), just not when they do things when it's really not needed. I support them because I have many friends serving our country and have some family members who do the same. I wish I would of done it but I want to go further on with art, but I love the privileges and honor to serve myself for the country. I give men and women credit doing something so courageous... I think it's real sad that some have to do things that they don't want to even do at all.

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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    @Kaleohano I've watched plenty of videos about kind of what to expect but any other things they aren't telling me I should know?

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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleohano View Post
    the question wasn't what you thought about war. The military does a lot more things than just fight wars. The question was on your opinion of the Military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadrith View Post
    @Kaleohano I've watched plenty of videos about kind of what to expect but any other things they aren't telling me I should know?
    well, no one is allowed to talk about it. We all have to sign a document that we will not give away any details concerning it. All i can say, is that its friggin' badass!
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    Military... Militia... Martial... it sounds like a useful profession/sport/concept/whatev.; a thing practiced to keep us in shape and ready for the ugly side of life should we ever encounter dire scenarios. However, in order for it to be practiced at it's best, the participant(s) will need a lot of discipline/fanaticism/submission. Usually these being powered by "Just Cause" as a morale raiser and motif that justifies the means.
    But what happens when you know you're a pawn in a simple game that's played by parties with different interests from yours, and you, risking your life and sanity for them. You get no morale, no reason to fight, no reason to join or believe the military. And they know they can't force you to fight; they need your submission and loyalty, so they release all sorts of public incentives to lure you in voluntarily. War movies, video games, little toy replicas for your kids, veteran discounts, whatever it takes.
    My advice: start practicing military action. And use it against your superiors back home.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.LeDoom! View Post
    But what happens when you know you're a pawn in a simple game that's played by parties with different interests from yours, and you, risking your life and sanity for them. You get no morale, no reason to fight, no reason to join or believe the military. And they know they can't force you to fight; they need your submission and loyalty, so they release all sorts of public incentives to lure you in voluntarily. War movies, video games, little toy replicas for your kids, veteran discounts, whatever it takes.
    who cares? Chicks digg the Uniform and it gets me laid in all corners of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadrith View Post
    @Kaleohano I've watched plenty of videos about kind of what to expect but any other things they aren't telling me I should know?
    It's just like any other basic training. The majority of it is all about attitude. Go in with a good attitude, you'll enjoy it. A crappy attitude will make you loathe basic. Also if you did like me, you'll go in with a "whatever, let's just get this crap over with and move on" attitude and come out "meh". Though there are perks to Navy basic training. Fire fighting training that can be utilized elsewhere in the civilian world. Especially on July 4th, with barges launching fireworks for a show. ;P

    BTW, What job are you looking at getting into in the Navy?
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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    Just don't kill innocent people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redpanda View Post
    Just don't kill innocent people.
    Well that's a pretty messed up statement. I served for 5 years, never killed anyone. Let alone someone innocent. Though the military does have many people that have done so, most don't try to kill innocent people. And when they do, they usually get messed up in the head about it; winding up with PTSD, depression, thoughts of suicide, and other things. There's only a small group of jerks that don't care after killing someone innocent.
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    Default Re: What do you think of the Military

    Quote Originally Posted by טוביה View Post
    The Brits haven't had a decent rifle since WW!. Just saying.

    I've notice this stinginess from few that I've come across.
    I just lol at what happened to their Empire, and move on.
    I think most British people 'lol' at the empire anyway. It was a disgrace and an excuse for bigotry. We took resources which did not belong to us from the people of the empire and used their soldiers as cannon fodder.
    Also, whenever I think of the word 'empire' General Sidious comes to mind...xD

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    My view of the military is not a simple one!
    Basically, I'm a coward. I could never hurt anything; human or animal. So I can't even imagine going to a warzone and having to deal with death/ serious injury everyday.
    The term 'military' is a broad one, as there are many different roles and ranks in this group. I can never say that I disagree with medics who help to nurse injured soldiers back to health, as that goes against my ideals!
    However, I find it very uncomfortable to think that there are people out there who have killed (not always on purpose) other human beings just because their seniors told them to. I don't know, that just rustles my jimmies.
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    @DeathBlade/13.666 Right now I have Gunners Mate which I'm excited for but if I could get into Master at Arms I'd like that too.

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