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    I believe the ONLY exception to abortion being murder is if the mother's life is in danger if the pregnancy continues. In cases where the mother's life is at stake, an abortion is justifiable as self defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaAnimeFan View Post
    I believe the ONLY exception to abortion being murder is if the mother's life is in danger if the pregnancy continues. In cases where the mother's life is at stake, an abortion is justifiable as self defense.
    Murder is unlawful killing. Abortion is legal, so it's not murder.

    By saying you want to ban abortions, you're saying you want more murders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Murder is unlawful killing. Abortion is legal, so it's not murder.

    By saying you want to ban abortions, you're saying you want more murders.
    Murder is an unjustifiable killing, whether or not it is in fact illegal. Abortion in 99% of the cases isn't justifiable. It is just a legal form of murder. It should be PROSECUTED AS MURDER for all the cases in which it isn't justifiable. The only way killing is ever justifiable is when it is for self defense, and only about 1% of abortions could be considered self defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Moonlight View Post
    Apparently, Romney supporters took it pretty hard.

    http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/
    lol, well they deserve it. They shot themselves in the foot. First thing i read clicking in that link is how they need to connect with other demographics and they had Ron paul running for republican nomination. He's HIGHLY favorable with todays youth and is still popular with other groups as well. I knew romney would lose to obama as soon as he won republican nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaAnimeFan View Post
    Murder is an unjustifiable killing, whether or not it is in fact illegal. Abortion in 99% of the cases isn't justifiable. It is just a legal form of murder. It should be PROSECUTED AS MURDER for all the cases in which it isn't justifiable. The only way killing is ever justifiable is when it is for self defense, and only about 1% of abortions could be considered self defense.
    I wonder where you're getting your statistics from. I don't expect you to provide any evidence.

    Also, I had to double-check the title of the thread a couple times ... how did this turn into an abortion debate again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerophobia View Post
    lol, well they deserve it. They shot themselves in the foot. First thing i read clicking in that link is how they need to connect with other demographics and they had Ron paul running for republican nomination. He's HIGHLY favorable with todays youth and is still popular with other groups as well. I knew romney would lose to obama as soon as he won republican nomination.
    Me, while looking at the whitepeoplemourningmittromney tumblr:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Moonlight View Post
    I wonder where you're getting your statistics from. I don't expect you to provide any evidence.
    Because of MegaAnimeFan's inability to think up threads of his own. He instead resorts to derailing every other thread he posts in. That, and, the moderators have some inane rule where if you reply to an obvious troll then that somehow nullifies the fact they're trolling and derailing the thread by making inflammatory remarks meant to incense the community.
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    As for this abortion topic.... Can it be banned? The answer to that question is and ALWAYS will be NO. The U.S. government could never even hope to enforce such a thing. If such laws preventing abortion were passed then you would have shady weirdos in back alleys doing abortions for $100 a pop with some unsterile equipment that would cause a whole mess of more problems for hospitals eventually as well as people just having their baby and dumping it in a dumpster or something to leave it to die slowly. Abortion is a safe way for those who do not want their child for whatever reason or can not physically have their child to get rid of said problem,. And hell, theres still the chance of riot and civil unrest from those who are pro choice and such.

    Face it, didn't work with alcohol, doesn't work with marijuana, and it won't work with abortion. You can argue all day until you are blue in the face @MegaAnimeFan but that is what it comes down to essentially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerophobia View Post
    As for this abortion topic.... Can it be banned? The answer to that question is and ALWAYS will be NO. The government could never even hope to enforce such a thing. If such laws preventing abortion were passed then you would have shady weirdos in back alleys doing abortions for $100 a pop with some unsterile equipment that would cause a whole mess of more problems for hospitals eventually as well as people just having their baby and dumping it in a dumpster or something to leave it to die slowly. Abortion is a safe way for those who do not want their child for whatever reason or can not physically have their child to get rid of said problem,. And hell, theres still the chance of riot and civil unrest from those who are pro choice and such.

    Face it, didn't work with alcohol, doesn't work with marijuana, and it won't work with abortion. You can argue all day until you are blue in the face @MegaAnimeFan but that is what it comes down to essentially.
    It's illegal in my country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanromml View Post
    It's illegal in my country.
    I suppose i should have specified U.S. in my statement since that is what i was speaking of. I'll edit it and throw that in somewhere. Where do you live though?country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerophobia View Post
    I suppose i should have specified U.S. in my statement since that is what i was speaking of. I'll edit it and throw that in somewhere. Where do you live though?country?
    Probably somewhere stupid like Australlia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaAnimeFan View Post
    4 years ago, the president had to worry about looking good for re-election. This is his second term. He doesn't have to look good now, because he can't be elected for a 3rd term. He can now put in all the socialist laws he wants, and in doing so he will turn the US into a country much like communist China is currently. Long before those 4 more years are over, he will have stomped and spat on our Constitution and First Amendment.
    You should really look up the word 'socialist' because you obviously don't have a clue what the word means. This country has had social service programs since long before Obama took office. You really should educate yourself about some facts instead of posting things that are willfully ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90 View Post
    I don't really disagree with this. I do believe that life begins at conception. As a spiritual person, I think that it is rather cold (or slightly ignorant) to refer to potential life as simply a bunch of cells. When an abortion is performed, a life has has been snuffed out.

    HOWEVER, the thing I find more frightening than abortion is the fallout that would occur if the legal option was taken away. Making abortions illegal won't stop people from doing it. Untrained doctors, back-alley abortions, a scared woman with a clothes hanger or a container of drugs. I would much rather have abortions be performed in a safe and sterile environment than out on the street. The procedure for abortions is actually incredibly safe when done by a professional (its actually safer than having the baby itself) instead of a back-alley doctor whose only concern is money.

    I would like to see the rate of abortions diminished (1/5 of pregnancies end in abortion...that's way too much), however, I want it diminished with education, counseling, and good old-fashioned contraception.
    Here you go. Education and free birth control help abortion rates plummet. Now remember that the Republicans keep trying to kill Planned Parenthood and they preach abstinence only, which didn't even work for the last Republican VP nominee's own daughter.

    http://esciencenews.com/articles/201....birth.control
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    Quote Originally Posted by aerophobia View Post
    I suppose i should have specified U.S. in my statement since that is what i was speaking of. I'll edit it and throw that in somewhere. Where do you live though?country?
    Don't worry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sighanide View Post
    Dude, your f*cked in the head. Whatever your book said, i din't think thats true of any other religion. And, where is your scientific proof?
    People said the world will end in 1995, way back when. Did that happen? No. Plus, you list reasons throughout about the bible, but 2012 is just when the mayans stopped counting. Prove it or post your evangelical bullshit somewhere else, bro.
    Replying to you because that dude you quoted is a crackpot. According to the Mayan calendar it's currently 2013. They never accounted for leap years since it was put in place by Caesar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Nunyabizness View Post
    Replying to you because that dude you quoted is a crackpot. According to the Mayan calendar it's currently 2013. They never accounted for leap years since it was put in place by Caesar.
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaParaJMo2 View Post
    It's because of people with your thinking is why we don't have a true democracy and why everyone's vote does not count. After Ross Perot in 1992, 3rd party and other potential candidates get censored from the process and show that there are no other solutions when in fact there are. Ross Perot was the beginning of showing there were other alternatives in context to the process and I feel that the politicians and the media should give everybody an equal chance.

    And I choose Ron Paul because he understands the problems and has solutions that sound harsh, but yet realistic and grounded in reality. Why should I vote for someone who claims he can cut the deficit in half and yet adds trillions more? Why should I vote for someone who says he is pro-choice but now pro-life? Why should I vote for someone who says he will close Gitmo but still has it actively open? Why should I vote for someone who says he will repeal national health care when he did something not too different as a Governor of a state? That is just plain idiotic.

    I will vote for someone I know truly cares about solving the issues in a realistic manner, and not appealing to their respective constituents. I refuse to vote for two socialists in capitalist clothing.

    It's either Ron Paul, or I write in Steve Rogers' name.
    No offense to you, but I have a hard time believing you actually did much reading on Ron Paul. He is against helping states during disasters and letting them fend for themselves ('United' states anyone?). He is also for eliminating the IRS, eliminated the Dept of Education, keeping the Bush tax cuts in place permanently, and a bunch of other ideals that are not only foolish but potentially devastating to the US. Most people bought into the nonsense about love and drugs and decided he was a good choice. His policies and actions say otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanromml View Post
    Don't worry
    If it's possible in here, it's possible in US, too!
    Geographically the only places that don't allow for abortion are Africa, the Middle East, South and Latin America, and Australlia. So esentially anywhere that isn't part of the civilized world. I said Australlia is dumb earlier, and I assume you live there, because they ban all violent video games and block porn with small breasted women.

    So my question to you is: how well do any of the laws in place work where it's illegal? Clearly not very well since those are the places with the most violence, strife and unrest.

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    Speaking of countries in which US stuff is illegal, in Ukraine, all pornography is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Genesis View Post
    Geographically the only places that don't allow for abortion are Africa, the Middle East, South and Latin America, and Australlia. So esentially anywhere that isn't part of the civilized world. I said Australlia is dumb earlier, and I assume you live there, because they ban all violent video games and block porn with small breasted women.

    So my question to you is: how well do any of the laws in place work where it's illegal? Clearly not very well since those are the places with the most violence, strife and unrest.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law
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    With the exception of Poland, former communist countries have liberal abortion laws. Poland is a country with a very strict abortion law, and where it is also very difficult to have a legal abortion. Abortion is allowed only in cases of risk to the life or health of the woman, when the pregnancy is a result of a criminal act (the criminal act has to be confirmed by a prosecutor), or when the fetus is seriously malformed. A doctor who performs an abortion which is deemed to not have a legal basis is subject to criminal prosecution, and, out of fear of prosecution, doctors avoid abortions, except in the most extreme circumstances


    ^tru dat!

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    And then the crowd follows...



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    Freaking psychos need to stop blowing up my notifications. Get tired of that mess. The election is over. I'd figure this thread would have died by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaAnimeFan View Post
    Speaking of countries in which US stuff is illegal, in Ukraine, all pornography is illegal.
    Lots of countries have porn being illegal. You do know that doing so increases the likely hood of a woman being raped, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Nunyabizness View Post
    Replying to you because that dude you quoted is a crackpot. According to the Mayan calendar it's currently 2013. They never accounted for leap years since it was put in place by Caesar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaAnimeFan View Post
    Speaking of countries in which US stuff is illegal, in Ukraine, all pornography is illegal.
    Pornography =/= real issues of this country
    It doesn't add up to me.

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    Obama.:3
    Oh wait doesn't matter anymore.

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