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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    If you have eaten pork like it was nothing, stole or lied about anything, marked our bodies with tatoos, then what right do people have to condem homosexuals. A sin is a sin, and we are all sinners.

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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    Okay has anyone heard about this so called "controversial" report about the Christian owned fast food chain, as well as the mayor of Boston saying that they're not welcome because they "discriminate" against the homosexual population of America?

    I've heard of it, didn't really care. (I've never been to Chik-fil-a, I didn't even know what it was before the "controversy").


    Well let's talk about it here and share your opinions on this situation. Me personally it's kind of stupid that a mayor can tell where a company can set up a shop and where they can't. This is America, and it seems to me that Christians are now losing their rights while homosexuals and muslims are getting more rights than Christians.

    Shouldn't the rights be equal and not about who has more? Also I thought at some point they wouldn't allow Muslims(?) to build a Mosque(?) around Ground Zero(?) even though there was one in the 9/11 building(?).


    If the mayor of Boston doesn't want a Christian company in his city because Christians are supposed to hate the sin of homosexuality and not the person. Then he should throw out EVERY single church that doesn't allow gays to sit in their pews every Sunday morning or even get married within their sanctuary. I bet you THAT will go over real well. (/sarcasm)

    I'm sure the mayor is just trying to give a little "push" towards tolerance to some people because they're wouldn't do it otherwise, it may hurt the Christian community a tiny bit in the beginning but eventually everyone will settle down and there will be less intolerant people in the future. (Also aren't there already a lot of Christian churches?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyarako View Post
    ...because Christians are supposed to hate the sin of homosexuality and not the person...
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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by טוביה View Post
    I've already explained why that's bullcrap, you dunce.

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    What's bullcrap?
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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    Deleted.
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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by טוביה View Post
    Learn to read.
    Quote Originally Posted by טוביה View Post
    Please, try to pay attention.
    I was merely responding to the original post, half of my post are actual quotes from the original post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyarako View Post
    If the mayor of Boston doesn't want a Christian company in his city because Christians are supposed to hate the sin of homosexuality and not the person. Then he should throw out EVERY single church that doesn't allow gays to sit in their pews every Sunday morning or even get married within their sanctuary. I bet you THAT will go over real well. (/sarcasm)

    I'm sure the mayor is just trying to give a little "push" towards tolerance to some people because they're wouldn't do it otherwise, it may hurt the Christian community a tiny bit in the beginning but eventually everyone will settle down and there will be less intolerant people in the future. (Also aren't there already a lot of Christian churches?)
    Everything in red is a quote from the original post.

    Also I'd be quite the hypocrite if I said people should hate homosexuality, considering I am gay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyarako View Post

    Also I'd be quite the hypocrite if I said people should hate homosexuality, considering I am gay.
    So....
    I'm retarded.
    Neat.




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    Quote Originally Posted by טוביה View Post
    Your "Christians are supposed to hate the sin of homosexuality " post.
    Please, try to pay attention.
    Not to be as disrespectful as you are, but how is it bullcrap? But I guess if what you say is true, then you should be deeply hated for all of your millions of sins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu 「あゆ」 View Post
    Not to be as disrespectful as you are, but how is it bullcrap? But I guess if what you say is true, then you should be deeply hated for all of your millions of sins.
    He gave an explanation somewhere in the thread, that's why he told me to read it so I would assume he would respond the same way to you as he did to me, when he thought that was what I was saying. Also I think it's fine to be a little disrespectful, people get frustrated, we've suffered too much grozit not to. I mean imagine if someone said women are supposed to be hated because a book says so and literally millions of people will hate you just for that, something that they learned, and there's nothing you can do to change yourself. Am I making sense? I feel like I worded this bad.
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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    I don't exactly understand what his explanation was as I don't know where it is in the thread, but the thing is that the Bible does not say to hate homosexuals. That is something that he just made up.

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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayu 「あゆ」 View Post
    I don't exactly understand what his explanation was as I don't know where it is in the thread, but the thing is that the Bible does not say to hate homosexuals. That is something that he just made up.
    He never exactly said the Bible hated homosexuality, it was the original post. Anyways I think this might have been his post that he was referring to when he told me to read the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by טוביה View Post
    You're thinking of;
    Leviticus 18:22 (KJV)
    "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

    Leviticus 20:13 (KJV)
    "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

    Put in full context, this will make a lot more sense. Because the mentioning of these condemnations are accompanied by some other condemnations, collectively known as the Holiness Code, including:

    Leviticus 11:6-7 condemning the consumption of pork and rabbit.
    Leviticus 17:15-16 condemning consumption of those who die from natural causes.
    Leviticus 18:19 condemning sexual relations with a woman menstruating.
    Leviticus 19:28 condemning any marks or cuttings into your flesh (including tattoos).
    Leviticus 21:10 condemning an anointed priest uncovering his head.

    Of course, these aren't the only things condemned in Leviticus. So, why do we not follow these customs?

    Well, in Yeshua's own words, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." (Matthew 5:17) To further elaborate, "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law." (Hebrews 7:12).

    In other words, these practices were the covenant of the Israelites of that time, symbolic of the Messiah's final covenant. Whereas animals were sacrificed by the Levitical laws, Jesus was the Christians sacrifice. Ergo, the "lamb of God". And thus, their new covenant. As they're are not bound by the old covenant, its laws are not applicable to them or us. This is affirmed in Matthew 15:1-28 and, again, in Acts 10:1-29 where the aforementioned consumption laws are admonished.


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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    Ah, ok, I see. Still inexcusable for him to act like such a child in a discussion, imo. Well, I'll add that makes sense that something like that is to be found in the Bible given it is the King James Version. King James slaughtered dozens of innocent people for not rewriting the Bible the way he wanted it.
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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    I explained why those who are Christians, who try to use the Bible for bigotry against homosexuality, are wrong.
    As the levitical laws no longer apply.
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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbacyk View Post
    If the mayor of Boston doesn't want a Christian company in his city because Christians are supposed to hate the sin of homosexuality and not the person. Then he should throw out EVERY single church that doesn't allow gays to sit in their pews every Sunday morning or even get married within their sanctuary. I bet you THAT will go over real well. (/sarcasm)
    Well, it should be noted that the Boston mayor has since retracted his statement about trying to keep Chick-Fil-A out of the city. He recognizes that he doesn't have the power to keep them out of the city. Of course, people living in the city certainly have the ability to do so (companies do not have free reign to set up shop in any community they see fit).

    And the block is not simply because of Chick-Fil-A's views on homosexuality; it's the combination of those views with the donation of money to radical anti-gay groups. It would be one thing if Mr. Cathy had simply stated that he was merely against homosexuality; most people could probably guess that. However, he has said some truly questionable things in the past such as putting homosexuals in camps and wanting to "cure" them and donating money to groups such as Exodus International and the Family Research Council (which has been designated as a hate group) who want to do just that.
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    Kaleohano derailing threads everywhere he go
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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    This is like soooo old...
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    Incorrect, and irrelevant too.
    Most of your oil comes from Canada and South America.




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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by טוביה View Post
    Incorrect, and irrelevant too.
    Most of your oil comes from Canada and South America.
    Partially false!
    We import mostly from Canada.
    In second is Saudi Arabia
    After that is Mexico.

    and,
    Kaleohano derailing threads everywhere he go
    Sit back some time and simply ask yourself, [Link]->"Do you even lift, bro?"<-[Link]

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    Default Re: Chik fil A Controversy

    http://www.npr.org/2012/04/11/150444...y-be-surprised

    Edit: This is becoming a pointless topic I'm bored with.
    I'm out.
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