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    Thumbs up Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Characters:
    Tenoh Haruka, or Sailor Uranus
    A genderbender character (of what we would call in today's terminology a genderqueer person) Haruka was said in the original text manga to have both the heart of a man and a woman (not the body and nor a hermaphrodite like people thought).
    Why Haruka is like that? Because Haruka was designed to be a male impersonator in a single gender theatre in Japan (of which Takeuchi herself is a huge fan) male impersonators are tend to be seen as "the ideal guy" who have the chivalry of a knight and the tenderness of a woman combined. Haruka in the manga is seen to wear both feminine and masculine outfits, and uses both masculine and feminine pronounces.

    Kaioh Michiru, or Sailor Neptune

    She is the epitome of an extreme femininity and that is because Michiru was designed (like Haruka) to be in a single gender theatre as female impersonator and Haruka's partner, together to make the perfect couple and complement eachother.
    Michiru is filthy rich but contrary with how rich ladies are acting in western world, in Japanese society it is a combination of "I have the power/money to do X, and I will work damn hard to be the best at X".

    their epic LOVE (might contain spoilers)

    In the Silver Millennium time they were isolated, guarding the solar system from their planets, and they weren't suppose to meet (so their love was from a distance and with all the bittersweet facts that come with distant relationships) in a very touching song called "destined couple" from the musicals they sing about how hard it was for them to be apart but knowing that they were protecting the princess kept them up to their duty.
    In present time, in S season they had to put their romance aside until they complete the mission at hand (so duty won once again, but the fact that their love lasted a so long makes it also so epic).
    The other epic aspect of their love is that even their dialogues are written in such a way to resemble the dramatic romances in the single gender theatre shows they were supposed to be part of.

    And that's all folks
    What do you think of Haruka and Michiru, as characters and for their relationship?
    let's talk

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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    *Sings* because they're cousins... identical cousins yeah...



    Seriously let me know if the English version ever admits the truth here, will ya? We get it, they'e in love and they're going to be together forever. Oh and they're serial killers.
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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    *Sings* because they're cousins... identical cousins yeah...



    Seriously let me know if the English version ever admits the truth here, will ya? We get it, they'e in love and they're going to be together forever. Oh and they're serial killers.
    What does the English version has to do with anything I wrote?
    and why are you calling them cousins? I never said any such thing, they are a couple in all versions.




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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Quote Originally Posted by 星らぶ View Post
    What does the English version has to do with anything I wrote?
    and why are you calling them cousins? I never said any such thing, they are a couple in all versions.
    Sometimes its best to ignore Clayton.

    In the English version they did make them cousins because apparently American children cant handle same-sex couples.

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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Quote Originally Posted by Ωmega View Post
    Sometimes its best to ignore Clayton.

    In the English version they did make them cousins because apparently American children cant handle same-sex couples.
    I know about the US dub fiasco I just couldn't understand where exactly does it fit in my post

    I do not consider any sailor moon dub accurate, since it was pretty much butchered in ALL dubs (except maybe the Brazilian one?)
    dubs for me simply do not exist
    Last edited by 星らぶ; 10-24-2013 at 01:13 PM.




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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Unfortunately since a lot of us don't speak Japanese the american dub is all we have... and we enjoy it... and then find out what they did to it... and suddenlyt he world is a much darker place.
    Anime is a lot like sex. Done right it's a beautiful act of creation that brings a little more light into the world. If it's sick and wrong... it's even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    Unfortunately since a lot of us don't speak Japanese the american dub is all we have... and we enjoy it... and then find out what they did to it... and suddenlyt he world is a much darker place.
    I stick with subtitles, personally. I bought the box sets and theyre all in Japanese with subtitles [except for seasons 3 on, the you get the option of having English too]

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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    how many times have they had to "fix" DBZ?


    Anywho i supoport this relationship whether they're cousins or not... maybe even more then.


    Last edited by Clayton_n; 10-24-2013 at 06:30 PM.
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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love



    their relationship is so much more




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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Uranus, Neptune and Jupiter are my favourite Sailor Moon character.
    But, I hate the fact that Uranus and Neptune are lovers. I really hate homosexuals.
    Still, they're both great characters.

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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    what the...
    O__O
    whatever floats your boat dude, but why is it so important to tell the world who you hate?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Idiotchan View Post
    Uranus, Neptune and Jupiter are my favourite Sailor Moon character.
    But, I hate the fact that Uranus and Neptune are lovers. I really hate homosexuals.
    Still, they're both great characters.
    Thenw hy did you come to a thread clearly discussing them as being lesbians? I could understand you hating the American version for making them cousins for the whole incest thing, but why hate lesbians?


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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Anime is a lot like sex. Done right it's a beautiful act of creation that brings a little more light into the world. If it's sick and wrong... it's even better.

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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    chibi jen's comic strips are the best
    my all time favourite is Seiya introducing herself to Haruka and the latter is silent until she says "don't add me on FB" :P




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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    So do you think making them cousins made their relationship worse or better?
    Anime is a lot like sex. Done right it's a beautiful act of creation that brings a little more light into the world. If it's sick and wrong... it's even better.

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    Haruka and Michiru are adorable and mature. A very nice contrast on all that virgin girl, childish innocence oozing sailor soldiers. They are lovers and captivating side characters with their own original story. They have slightly different values, a few times they even acted like enemies, but they were strong and looked at things realistically. They also have the best theme song, and years ago I dreamt about them cuddling :3 So, yeah, they're my favourite Sailor Moon characters.

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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Quote Originally Posted by Clayton_n View Post
    So do you think making them cousins made their relationship worse or better?
    making them cousins, is not the original work, they are not Haru-Michi to begin with, (even their personalities are ugly)
    therefore personally I refuse to recognize that this abomination ever existed...


    Quote Originally Posted by IzayaOrihara13 View Post
    Haruka and Michiru are adorable and mature. A very nice contrast on all that virgin girl, childish innocence oozing sailor soldiers. They are lovers and captivating side characters with their own original story. They have slightly different values, a few times they even acted like enemies, but they were strong and looked at things realistically. They also have the best theme song, and years ago I dreamt about them cuddling :3 So, yeah, they're my favourite Sailor Moon characters.
    totally agree, by the way in the manga the did cuddle XD couple of times, and there is a hint to a kiss as well <3




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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Anyway it was nice to see one couple who didn't have someone else trying to steal them away, turn out to be an evil alien trying to manipulate the other, or who got all preschool about the whole thing.
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    or who got all preschool about the whole thing.
    what does that mean?




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    what does that mean?
    I mean they had a normal adult relationship and didn't degenerate tot he level of arguing toddlers.








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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    aa I get it now

    well they are mature, and completely different than Usagi, so it's only normal they are like that

    then again you have this little thing from the CD dramas where Michiru pretty much says that if Haruka loses her cool she will break up with her in a flinch
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    I really don't see that ever happening. But it's a good policy
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    Default Re: Haruka and Michiru, and their epic love

    Michiru is a tease and a dork at times and her favourite game is to stalk and play Haruka around
    saying she will break up with her and the next moment fangirling like a 10 years old over her is so Michiru

    Haruka on the other hand is such a blockhead and takes things too seriously, hardly gets Michiru's teasing (ahem the infamous dressing room scene in Stars) and gets jealous over nothing, to Michiru's delight of course since it spices things up
    BUWHAAHAHA
    these two are epic in every aspect




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