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    Default Germany helped invent anime?

    So I found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imokawa...kanban_no_Maki

    Then I found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momotar...e_Sea_Warriors

    Look at the country of origin. I have also been studying the German influence on anime.
    They do use Norse mythology sometimes in anime. I have also been studying the French influence on anime. France invented the first animation ever. Fantasmagorie.

    So my question is, who DID invent anime? was it France, since they invented the first animation, or was it germany and japan?

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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    @Cambodian There is a difference between anime, animation, cartoon and such.

    Anime is the the word for japanese cartoon/animation, so if you are asking for who invented the anime then yes it was the japanese.

    About animantions there is a discussion about that, many says for example that it's not that clip by J. Stuart Blackton that you mentioned that should count since the first animations where those pages that you flipped fast to trick the eyes that pictures where moving - and Joseph Plateau have been given the credit for that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Plateau. So I don't know about the animation part... But the japanese definitely did the anime!
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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    Yeah thanks, but what about Germany?
    If this IS the first anime ever then Germany could have partly invented anime?

    As for the second link, that was the first anime FILM.
    And im not suprised Germany helped with this one. Afterall, it was a Propaganda.
    Last edited by Cambodian; 05-06-2012 at 09:18 PM.

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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cambodian View Post
    Yeah thanks, but what about Germany?
    If this IS the first anime ever then Germany could have partly invented anime?

    As for the second link, that was the first anime FILM.
    And im not suprised Germany helped with this one. Afterall, it was a Propaganda.
    Maybe I am missing something in the links- but why should Germany get credit for those?
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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    I have no idea. Just look at the country of origin. It says Japan, Germany.

    I have really no idea what Germany did to help out making these animes.
    I expect they did maybe....litle work on it. But im not sure.

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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cambodian View Post
    I have no idea. Just look at the country of origin. It says Japan, Germany.

    I have really no idea what Germany did to help out making these animes.
    I expect they did maybe....litle work on it. But im not sure.
    But you talked about Momotarõ in post three, and that was the second link that you posted. But I can only see Germany mentioned in the first link so where do you read Germany in the second one? As far as I can see it only Japan gets credit in the second link for Mom.

    I feel blind. :/
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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    Oh, the second one says germany here :/

    But the first link i showed you is definetly a german animation. I forget what site i read this on, but apparently Germany had some work on the first link i showed you.
    other than that i honestly dont know.

    The second one, may very well be not German and a mistake by wikipedia :/

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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    @Cambodian This is how it looks for me in the 2nd link:
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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    It's a Japanese animated film, but "anime" as used in its modern definition prescibes to animated works using the manga art style. Osamu Tezuka is widely regarded as the creator of manga and anime, in their modern usage. If you want to discuss his influences, they were French animation and the animated works of Walt Disney.

    Outside of the Wikipedia article, I can't find any sources that show German involvement in Momotaro. None of the listed production staff are German. I'd assume that information is incorrect.

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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    Well, Wikipedia must be tricking me :/ I think im looking at an older version of the article. im not sure.

    Warrior of love rainbowman was german and japanese. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0302173/

    just go down to country. I also am finding more and more german and japanese animated films.
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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    That would be because someone, going by the wikipedia name "Johnryanz", has been adding Germany to the country of origin of several animated series on Wikipedia. This same user has also made recent changes to titles on IMDB. These changes were all made between April 29th and May 5th from what I can see.

    Your IP address on this forum says you are from around the St. Paul, Minnesota area. The Wikipedia user adding "German" to the anime country of origins is also from the St. Paul area.

    This isn't a coincidence; you are adding Germany to the country of origin of anime arbitrarily and without basis. I'm removing your additions from Wikipedia, and I'm alerting the operators of Wikipedia's Anime and Manga Portal to your vandalism. You have also made changes to the Powhatan article on Wikipedia, stating that the tribe originated in Cambodia; I'll be reporting you to the proper group for this article as well.
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    Default Re: Germany helped invent anime?

    Actually THIS is the first anime ever made. It was made in Japan.


    The title Katsudo Shashin literally means "moving picture" in English, according to Wikipedia.

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