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    Default An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    When his 10-year-old son, Akian, started getting into trouble at school, Stuart Chaifetz was stunned. The notes from Horace Mann Elementary School in Cherry Hill, N.J., said that Akian, who has autism, was having violent outbursts and hitting his teacher and his aide -- behavior that the boy had never exhibited before.

    "I could not understand why this was happening," Chaifetz, a 44-year-old animal rights activist in New Jersey, wrote on his website. "I had never witnessed Akian hit anyone, nor could I dream of him lashing out as had been described to me."

    In October 2011, he met with Akian's teachers and school therapists. A behaviorist was called in, but during several classroom visits he didn't see Akian become violent. "He tried to create a scenario that would push Akian so far that he would lash out," Chaifetz explained. "And Akian did not."

    "If Akian was pushed and didn't do anything, what was setting him off?" his dad wondered. After six months of meetings yielded no answers, he decided that he needed to know what was happening in his son's class. Like Akian, all of the other kids in his class also have autism, and complications from the disorder prevent them from being able to communicate to their parents about what goes on in the classroom.

    "The morning of February 17, I put a wire on my son, and I sent him to school," Chaifetz says in a video he created to showcase the audio clips. "What I heard on that audio was so disgusting, vile, and just an absolute disrespect and bullying of my son, that happened not by other children, but by his teacher, and the aides -- the people who were supposed to protect him. They were literally making my son's life a living hell."
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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    That's pretty terrible, some people should not become teachers at all.

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    For all it's worth, the teachers and aides should be fired from their jobs and charged immediately.

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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    One of the many reasons I'm against teacher unions. And unions in general. They protect people that really shouldn't be working. Instead put more legislation in place to protect those who should be protected. What these people did to this boy is shocking and I'm surprised it went on for as long as it did. You think someone would have heard it before the wire tapping was necessary. There's no excuse for it and makes you wonder how long this has been going on. Where they doing the same thing in previous years? How many kids have they hurt over the years. Everyone in that room needs to be fired and not allowed to work again. Or even have children of their own. If they can't handle other peoples children what makes you think they'll handle their own children well. Especially when one of them is probably an alcoholic.

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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    He isnt the only one. Only these students arent being bullied

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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    He isnt the only one. Only these students arent being bullied

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    That's so terrible. Seriously, a large group of adults against one small teenager... It's the very definition of cowardice! I would LOVE to be in that very situation just so that I could teach those pathetic excuses of a man how to grow a pair.


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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    wow this more worst :O that aint bully thats torture!!!! poor kid ;o

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    @MaruDashi
    Wow, I didn't even know that this was even going on.

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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    I know I'd definetly go on a substance abuse vice ifI had to deal with their filthy Assburgers-infested children.
    Poor teachers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    I know I'd definetly go on a substance abuse vice ifI had to deal with their filthy Assburgers-infested children.
    Poor teachers.
    Oh , so you are not only a brony , but also an asshat uh? Nice , that's 2 reasons for me to dislike you...

    They chose to be teachers. They knew what they would have to put up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchman View Post
    Oh , so you are not only a brony , but also an asshat uh? Nice , that's 2 reasons for me to dislike you...

    They chose to be teachers. They knew what they would have to put up with.
    But-but, Im a brony ;___;
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    But-but, Im a brony ;___;
    [well, pegasistah]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchman View Post
    They chose to be teachers. They knew what they would have to put up with.
    Yeah fer real.

    The class was for kids with autism, if you bothered to watch the video that Aleyna posted along with the thread. It was their job to "put up with" them.
    Last edited by Princess Cupcake; 05-05-2012 at 03:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    I know I'd definetly go on a substance abuse vice ifI had to deal with their filthy Assburgers-infested children.
    Poor teachers.
    I would be very happy indeed to help you along your way to being a curbside wino. At least then I would be more able to pass you by and dismiss your drivel as the ramblings of a drunkard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    To the teachers in question, neglectfulness and substance abuse are acquirable vices, just like Asspergers is to basement dwelling teenagers who watch anime or or spoiled, or undisciplined children with overprotective fathers. Sure, the teacher's behavior was unacceptable to the profession, but not something scandalous or so morally infringing that internet people have to open of truckloads of waaaaaaambulances.
    Asperger's Syndrome isn't acquired, you know-nothing twit. It's a smattering of communication deficiencies based in physiological abnormalities in the brain. (This is generally true of autism, but the specifics and the severity of symptoms varies between specific disorders.)

    More importantly, these deficiencies relate to learning how to communicate, and do not constitute a permanent inability to learn eventually, just that learning more subtle modes of communication will take more time and effort. In order to better things, someone with Asperger's (the correct spelling, by the way) needs to be deliberately taught things like body language and tone of voice, as they aren't likely to figure it out on their own, but simply shouting at them to shut up and regaling them with tales of wine and sex will not do that, never mind the rest.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    Assburgers is a speculation on Autism by non-psychiatric "professionals", (the same psychologists that say homosexuality is genetic though they're not qualified in the field) none of the two cases are physiologically visible, so they can only diagnose people with either Autism or Aspergers, and due to the recent hype about them, the two are often mistaken by these professionals, so you can't really tell what that kid had.
    God, you are ignorant. Your claim is a load of crap; the bulk of controversy spins around whether or not Asperger's is actually causally similar to autism or is merely symptomatically similar. There also exists a controversy regarding supposed overdiagnosis, but the disorder's existence is not in question. I myself was diagnosed by multiple psychiatrists, who I'll remind you are not merely licensed psychology professionals, but are also medical doctors who often deal in neuroscience.

    Furthermore, just from what can be gleaned from the audio that was uploaded, the kid can't handle sensory overstimulation, requires a rigid and almost ritualistic schedule, understand language for its literal meaning, doesn't understand the proper protocol for social interaction, talks to himself, and performs actions repeatedly to calm himself. That's textbook autism. Further considering that he can nonetheless handle explicit spoken and written communication, it's fitting to diagnose him with Asperger's Symdrome. There's no mystery as to categorization and diagnosis.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    tl;shouldn't have read. Those definitions make autism sound like ADHD and Aspergers sounds almost hypothetical because it's IQ-centered, and intelligence isn't exactly a measurable property.
    If you knew the disorder well enough, and did not use gossip and mid-morning TV fluff-pieces and the like as a reference for diagnostic criteria, then you'd understand that high intelligence isn't necessary for the diagnosis, but makes it more likely. Simply put, you must command language fairly well in spite of a host of developmental and communication deficiencies; it's more that people like me learned to speak and write as well as we have because we were just marginally intelligent enough to learn how to do so in spite of our other problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    And when someone tells you to shut up and stop your inappropriate behaviour a couple of times, you would be smart to stop and consider; that kid wasn't. These kids deserve a more acerb education, other than being verbally bullied; she was just testing the little brat's attention span and improving his confidence.
    Do you simply not understand that compulsive behavior is a part of the disorder? Do you not understand what the word "compulsive" means?
    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    And I wish you and other n00by members wouldn't try to justify the overprotective father and retarded child's drama and taking all your stupid sentimental frustration on me. You like children with problems so much, why don't you try raising one; then you'll see what that teacher had to put up with.
    I'm very close to profanity with you. You may be are the single most insulting bag of puss I've yet encountered on AF.




    Pull your head out of your behind and bother to understand what you're blathering on about before you assume an authoritative and imperious tone.

    By the by, I've dealt with enough degenerate individuals such as yourself to recognize the "Assburgers" corruption as old-hat, but I feel I still ought to point out- however ineffectual this may be on you- that I have been verbally denied my humanity enough times in my life because of my disorder that I don't really need to be told again- by way of an idiotic and deliberate misspelling of a proper term- that you don't give half a damn. I pretty well understand that you have some sort of pathological hangup with the subject, and you don't need to keep insulting me and others to say so.

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    For the less audacious among you, you could do with reading this. Yes, I know, it's TVtropes, oddly enough, but it's actually a better summary for laymen than I've ever found anywhere else.
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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    someone deserves one big can of whoopass. Doing something like that to a 10 year old is already f**ked up. doing it to an entire class of autistic kids is just beyond words for me to describe. I'm an insensitive a**hole a lot of the time, but I would NEVER stoop so low as to pick on small kids.
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    @MaruDashi Yeah, saw that. Couldn't sit through the entire video. Though that was done back in 2003. I'd put both of these incidents as torture. Especially the last one who received brain damage. The devices they used where more powerful then tasers. I wouldn't even want those used on kids as they've killed adults. The kid there had mental disabilities to begin with. I just don't get what goes through these peoples heads to think something like that is a good idea. And all the kid did was refuse to remove his coat. Really, you're going to electrocute a kid over that.

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    Didn't want the entire thing of neither video, pretty much cause it already got the point across.

    That said, some people are just sick in the heck and they don't even deserve to be teachers at all.

    @Princess Cupcake That makes it even worse. Pathetic. -.-
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    @Kaitou+
    Especially because those teachers are required to have a special education license in order to teach students with disabilities, which means they were trained in how to deal with them properly but as you can see, they did the exact opposite =\

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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    I guess this, and many other things, are reasons why some people seem to dislike our education system...

    I mean.. c'mon, how can you say "We have a good system" when a certified Aide for Disabled Children, isn't even doing their job correctly at all..
    reminds me of my art teacher, she constantly scolds the disabled kids in our class, and yells at them for not painting correctly..
    They have the minds of 2 year olds and below, obviously they wont know how to :/

    makes me wonder why people go into these jobs.. I sometimes guess its the $ that drives them there.. oh well..



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    *edit* Someone took the time to call me out on this, and I stand corrected. On reflection, I see that what I wrote is ignorant and unnecessarily spiteful. I'll leave the post up for reference but I retract what I said. My apologies.

     
    Teachers are like they say with sausages; you don't really want to know how and what they're made from.

    I used to think teachers were responsible adults who took pride in their work; but now that I reach an age where I see a number of my former classmates begin to take up the profession, I've come to realize that a lot of teachers are/were themselves pretty much a bunch of bored, spoiled, overgrown kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchman View Post
    Oh , so you are not only a brony , but also an asshat uh? Nice , that's 2 reasons for me to dislike you...
    None of the above terms you used as derogative present any negative qualities that I see. You must be a real jerk for hating people for no reason.

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    They chose to be teachers. They knew what they would have to put up with.
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    Yeah fer real.

    The class was for kids with autism, if you bothered to watch the video that Aleyna posted along with the thread. It was their job to "put up with" them.
    Hey, you're all going to college thinking you'd get some pathetic desk job that pays well, but you've no idea what you're really in for. Neither did they!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    Hey, you're all going to college thinking you'd get some pathetic desk job that pays well, but you've no idea what you're really in for. Neither did they!
    That's the same as saying "Hey guys , Hitler was actually a pretty nice guy. He became the Fuhrer of Germany thinking he'd have an easy ride , but it was actually quite hard , so he decided to kill a few million people . But its totally not his fault , and if i was in his position id do the same guys!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchman View Post
    That's the same as saying "Hey guys , Hitler was actually a pretty nice guy. He became the Fuhrer of Germany thinking he'd have an easy ride , but it was actually quite hard , so he decided to kill a few million people . But its totally not his fault , and if i was in his position id do the same guys!"

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    Default Re: An Autistic Child Is Bullied By His Teachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Skrillex View Post
    Hey, you're all going to college thinking you'd get some pathetic desk job that pays well, but you've no idea what you're really in for. Neither did they!
    How can you be so narrow-minded? I know plenty of special ed teachers who enjoy their jobs in helping school kids with disabilities. I'm sure it wasn't on a whim that made them want to do what they do and to say that they had no idea what they were in store for would be illogical.

    As for the autistic child who had been bullied by his teachers, he only begun to act out when they were mean to him. He didn't act violent when they sent the behaviorist to monitor the classroom because, obviously, the teachers wouldn't do the same things that they had been doing to provoke him upon realizing it was being investigated, such as:
    -yell at kids to "shut up," "shut your mouth," and "knock it off"
    -have inappropriate personal conversations in front of the children, discussing how drunk they were the night before, complaining about their husbands, and talking in detail about adult issues
    -goad Akian to the point of tears and then laugh at him
    Chyeah, those "poor" teachers...

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    Bla bla bla, she had a typical conversation on a phone, not with any of the kids, and the reason she wasn't hiding it was because none of those stupid kids were ever paying attention and most probably wouldn't understand. And when someone tells you to shut up and stop your inappropriate behaviour a couple of times, you would be smart to stop and consider; that kid wasn't. These kids deserve a more acerb education, other than being verbally bullied; she was just testing the little brat's attention span and improving his confidence.


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