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    Hi all,

    I was wondering, what peoples personal opinions of him are?

    Makoto Itou is the lead male character from the anime School Days, and is in all essence, a womaniser. He takes advantage of many girls, toying with their feelings and them dragging them along through what many could call "inhumane" ordeals...

    To me, he is absolutely despicable. He has no sense of decency or morals whatsoever, and does nothing to explain himself when everything blows up in front of him. He made me so angry, even from a guy perspective >

    To those who have seen the anime, you will know what I mean. If you havnt, do you still hate these types of people?

    Im intrested to see how society views these points

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Yup I hated him, but I'm surprised to hear that opinion from a guy. I thought guys would see him as someone to admire or aspire to? I've met guys (and actually dated one) who treat girls that way. But things never end well for ppl like that!

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    The man used his dick to make the decisions, instead of his brain. There were a few times where I enjoyed his retarded escapades, but of course, no man would do that in real life.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Wow, sounds like my ex. A lot like him.
    I want nothing to do with him or even guys like that.

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    He started off so likable, but then...
    im a guy too and that isn't what we aspire to. Well.. Most of us.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    He's my hero.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuru View Post
    The man used his dick to make the decisions, instead of his brain. There were a few times where I enjoyed his retarded escapades, but of course, no man would do that in real life.
    Unfortunately some men in real life DO do that... :-(

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    I agree with all those who posted above me, he really did think with his sexual motives in mind, rather than the girls true feelings and what they wanted to do to be happy...


    *semi-spoiler alert* To all those who have seen the anime, I ask, do you think he got what he deserved in the end? Or should it have been different, not as severe/worse etc.?


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    Yes , I think he deserved it, but it would have been better happening another way so girls lives weren't ruined....

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blade_Runner95 View Post
    Hi all,

    I was wondering, what peoples personal opinions of him are?

    Makoto Itou is the lead male character from the anime School Days, and is in all essence, a womaniser. He takes advantage of many girls, toying with their feelings and them dragging them along through what many could call "inhumane" ordeals...

    To me, he is absolutely despicable. He has no sense of decency or morals whatsoever, and does nothing to explain himself when everything blows up in front of him. He made me so angry, even from a guy perspective >

    To those who have seen the anime, you will know what I mean. If you havnt, do you still hate these types of people?

    Im intrested to see how society views these points
    I agree with you that Makoto was a dick. But I didn't think he deserved to die for it..lol Don't put the blame all on him, that other chick(the bestfriend) had it coming to. She knew good and well that he liked the other chick. But yet she was still flirting with him and stuff. I got kinda mad at the end when she was throwing a fit when he finally got with the girl he wanted in the first place. She knew he didn't really like her, so why get mad about it? I thought she got exactly what she deserved, that's what she gets for trying to be a sneaky b***.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Haven't watched this anime but I believe the main protagonist is a Gigantic SCUMBAG at least from what I've read and heard that is.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    (Based on the anime) I don't believe the dude was a womanizer until after Sekai's "special training." For the first few episodes, he was somewhat of an okay guy. Thinking back, wasn't it Sekai that seduced him and sort of started him down the path of manwhoring? After his sexual escapades with Sekai and his betrayal in Katsura's love (even though she kept denying it), that's when Makoto wanted more and became the ultimate guy that everyone hates. Yes, the dude became a scumbag, but you guys are forgetting he is freakin 15 years old, so I don't know about him deserving to be stabbed to death. He does deserve punishment though. And Sekai? No offense, but she's the one that started this whole mess. She wanted happiness, so she should have pursued Makoto herself before having him meet Katsura, or back off when he and Katsura were dating. She sort of got what she deserved too in the end. Katsura is the only character I showed any ounce of pity towards, since everyone just mistreated her. However, she was kind of foolish, denying Itou was cheating on her the whole time. The other girls on the other hand, are some of the stupidest I've ever come across. They literally threw themselves at Mr. Manwhore without thinking too much about the consequences until the end.

    Anyways, I'd stay away from all the characters in this anime, they're all really crazy lol.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    I agree with everyones viewpoints, he was a scumbag who, considering the circumstances, probably didnt deserve to die, yet needed a serious punishment,.

    I also agree on the point that Sekai was a crucial factor throughout the series. Her actions were the instigator for this tidal wave of betrayal and deception, a misfortune that could have easily been avoided.

    @Hideki Motosuwa
    I honestly couldnt have put it any better. Hit the nail on the head with that one. Your post actually made me go back and think about the themes of the show again, and the actions made by each of the main characters...
    My hat is off to you sir ^.^ *takes off hat and bows*


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade_Runner95 View Post
    I agree with everyones viewpoints, he was a scumbag who, considering the circumstances, probably didnt deserve to die, yet needed a serious punishment,.

    I also agree on the point that Sekai was a crucial factor throughout the series. Her actions were the instigator for this tidal wave of betrayal and deception, a misfortune that could have easily been avoided.

    @Hideki Motosuwa
    I honestly couldnt have put it any better. Hit the nail on the head with that one. Your post actually made me go back and think about the themes of the show again, and the actions made by each of the main characters...
    My hat is off to you sir ^.^ *takes off hat and bows*
    Why thank you Btw, similar things like this happen all the time amongst teenagers, and it all ends up like a dragged out soap opera, just like School Days lol.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    I agree whole-heatedly with @Hideki Motosuwa.
    I felt so sorry for Katsura, when she collapsed after Itou confirmed breaking up with her.
    Although at the end, he tried to make up for his errors in his "iffy" way but by then it was way too late.
    Still don't think he deserved to die.
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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Everyone's hating on Sekai, but I <3 her :'(

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Never watched it, so I can't really know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    Yup I hated him, but I'm surprised to hear that opinion from a guy. I thought guys would see him as someone to admire or aspire to?
    A few abusive men you know are not exactly a good example of "how men think". Your generalization is comparable to thinking that humans would like to be drug addicts and think of drug addicts as role models.

    The majority of guys I know are kind and nice with girls, and most guys I've talked to about such things genuinely care about girls' feelings and wouldn't want to be jerks even if they could.

    You and many girls might be under the impression that guys want to do that because many guys mindlessly go around talking about boobs and sex. But wanting a pleasure does not imply that one is willing to cause harm to attain it. Actually not giving a damn about people's feelings to the point of consciously not minding to make use of them for one's entertainment at the cost of their well being requires someone who is... well, I can only say psychologically dysfunctional. And those people are not exactly a majority.

    Not only they are not a majority, but a more-than-enough proportion of them exists in both genders. One of the main differences is that the men who are abusive with women tend to be overtly aggressive and/or dominating, whereas the women who are abusive with men tend to be more manipulative and passive-aggressively sadistic/oppressive jerks.

    Another thing is that not all people who abuse the opposite gender do that while being all that aware of the full extents of the damage they're causing. Some people are ignorant, immature and/or self-deluding enough to think that their victims will probably "enjoy", or at least easily get over, the mistreatment. And guess what? There's more than enough of both males and females who are guilty of being like that as well.

    The social attitude and double standards regarding men do not help in abusive women's case; they're easily under the illusion that men are some emotionless sex beasts... Although there are also negative attitudes and double standards regarding women.

    Now does the existence of the abusive proportion of women make you think that "women are like that"? Nope.

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    People in general can, and to some extent tend, to attribute without much thought the bad things they observe in others to whatever is the most visible, shallow difference. In this case gender.
     
    Gender is one of the biggest abusers, but not the only one; we have things like ethnicity, nationality, religion, or even things like height, looks, intelligence, job, hobby, etc.
    Most of those popular "men think" and "women think", "men do" and "women do", and "men are" and "women are" notions are made from similar, narrowly selective inductions.

    Men and women aren't really all that different. At least, they're much, much more similar than different. And most of their differences are not a matter of nature, but nurture. Hence not only can something vary significantly (sometimes to the point of making polar opposites) between an individual and another of the same gender; it can change, sometimes radically, in the same person.
     
    Not that this means you have to go through anyone's abuse with the hope that "they would change"; it's ultimately their fault and they, they alone, have to survive it and fix it. (And this philosophy goes for both genders alike.)
    Another strong factor is that the reasonable people do not stand out as much as the idiots or jerks do. The idiots/jerks will always let you know that they're idiots/jerks, but there isn't a sign on every reasonable person's back that reads "Hey, I am a reasonable human being".

    And finally, people tend to remember the bad things more than the good things.

    Now I'm not saying anything about you. Those selective tendencies are less than conscious, exist in every human being, and they especially occur after frustrations and under stress. That said, your thought that "most men" want to be like that is understandable, given that you did date someone who is like that. And maybe you never encountered enough men to begin with. But it's not like this is actually how a majority of men are or even want to be, and it's not how the world works.


     
    I'm lazy enough to pick up one post and write what would be a response to multiple things in two threads at the same time. The other thread being "What men don't understand about women"
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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Quote Originally Posted by mrpineapple View Post
    Everyone's hating on Sekai, but I <3 her :'(
    I don't really hate Sekai, I actually find her personality the most appealing of all the girls (despite Setsuna being the only level headed one in the entire series!). I find Katsura to be the cutest though (except when she goes psycho).

    Oh, Hi-deeki, imagine... your kind not eating raw fish! ^_^


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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Makoto is an interesting example of a fairly normal person who transforms into the ultimate scumbag.

    Im a guy. I have a lot of friends who are guys. At their most awful, at their most leecherous, none of them have even come close to what he did. Even if they did I am sure they could not do it with such callousness.

    If any of my friends acted like Makoto, not only would I not associate with them but most of my friends would eject them from friend circles entirely.

    My review for the show:
     


    I am honestly dissapointed that any person would think males would empathize with such a character.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    It's a harem/ecchi anime! Of course the lead male role is going to be a clueless, selfish and horny guy. And all the girls are made to be really slutty, stupid and immature who go after one guy's dick! Instead of just finding another guy...which there are plenty of, they all choose to fawn over and spread their legs for the lead role. Lol, I cannot STAND harem anime. Dumbest genre ever imagined.

    "They didn't need to tell eachother. They never needed to tell eachother."



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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    @Aku no Hikari , wow! That's a big post. Of course you are right and I know that not all men are like that, in fact I have a very wonderful guy in my life right now who has helped changed my opinion of ppl in general.

    I know most men don't ACTUALLY want to me like Makoto, but since it's a fictional character and expected many comments from males about him being a very lucky guy etc.... in a joking sort of way. I am pleasantly surprised by the amount of decent guys on this forum

    ---------- Post added at 09:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Ghirahim View Post
    It's a harem/ecchi anime! Of course the lead male role is going to be a clueless, selfish and horny guy. And all the girls are made to be really slutty, stupid and immature who go after one guy's dick! Instead of just finding another guy...which there are plenty of, they all choose to fawn over and spread their legs for the lead role. Lol, I cannot STAND harem anime. Dumbest genre ever imagined.
    How about 'Reverse Harem'? I know I'm a fan!

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    So am I, Im very surprised about the opinion of most males on this forum ^.^

    To be honest, this has probably been the best forum I have ever signed on to in terms of this issue, and I mean that from the heart. I have seen people on forums raving about how good they are at "picking up the chicks".
    It makes me sick to even contemplate it.....

    I appreciate everyones feedback thus far, please dont stop! Im very intrigued to find alternate viewpoints


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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blade_Runner95 View Post
    To be honest, this has probably been the best forum I have ever signed on to in terms of this issue, and I mean that from the heart. I have seen people on forums raving about how good they are at "picking up the chicks".
    It makes me sick to even contemplate it.....
    Guys who rave on about "picking up chicks" usually have mummy problems or low self esteem. Its a defense mechanism.

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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Now that you mention it, Rylingo, it is possible that it can be a defense mechanism.

    Still, doesnt give them the right to brag about it and make it be known to everyone else. They should employ another, less subtle defense mechanism I think.


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    Default Re: Personal opinion of Makoto Itou from School Days?

    Personally, I think the guy had mental problems.
    But then again, there are dudes like him. So the entire cast are mental.

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