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    Default Re: France forbids vegetarian and vegan food in the schools

    A violation of rights: "You must eat what we give you. No exceptions."

    What they're doing: "We will not provide a meal that fulfills vegan or vegetarian dietary habits."

    If some one is so involved in their morally superior fantasy, they can bring their own food.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    What, exactly is the problem with this again?
    Depends. If they prohibit religious stuffs to be used in public affairs, then nothing. If they arrest people for saying "god bless you"(or the french equivalent) when someone sneezes, then I think they're being a little pedantic.
    Last edited by Anoleis; 02-29-2012 at 02:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    What, exactly is the problem with this again?
    Nothing at all. Someone's eating habits are not related in any kind, or even comparable to, religion. Anyway, it's pretty silly to force someone to eat meat, or anything that contains animal products. This could mean that not everything has meat inside it, but something else like dairy. I hope this law will be revised when the French government discovers students are not going to be happy with this.

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    Default Re: France forbids vegetarian and vegan food in the schools

    WTF!? I cannot believe this. Look at ANY recent studies on nutrition and it's impact on our health. Animal products are linked to diabetes, heart disease, cancer, obesity and more. It's not rocket science. Japanese are the healthiest, longest living race on the planet. Their diet? Mostly grains, veggies and soy. Westerners are the fattest, unhealthiest ppl, they eat loads of meat, eggs and dairy, all high in fat and full of antibiotics, steroids and all sorts of other nasties I can't pronounce.

    The bottom line: feeding children large amounts of animal products = poisoning them with bad foods and teaching them unhealthy habits which can lead to disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    WTF!? I cannot believe this. Look at ANY recent studies on nutrition and it's impact on our health. Animal products are linked to diabetes, heart disease, cancer, obesity and more. It's not rocket science. Japanese are the healthiest, longest living race on the planet. Their diet? Mostly grains, veggies and soy. Westerners are the fattest, unhealthiest ppl, they eat loads of meat, eggs and dairy, all high in fat and full of antibiotics, steroids and all sorts of other nasties I can't pronounce.

    The bottom line: feeding children large amounts of animal products = poisoning them with bad foods and teaching them unhealthy habits which can lead to disease.
    Meat does not necessarily need to be unhealthy, but as the French government wants to add animal products to ALL sold wares in schools, there's gonna be a lack of diversity, which, in the long run, causes students to be less able to pay attention, not even starting about the denial of their psychical condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    Animal products Over consumption has been linked to diabetes, heart disease, cancer, obesity and more.
    Fixed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    Japanese are the healthiest, longest living race on the planet. Their diet? Mostly grains, veggies and soy.
    You've forgotten fish. The Japanese consume a large quantity of fish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    Westerners are the fattest, unhealthiest ppl, they eat loads of meat, eggs and dairy, all high in fat and full of antibiotics, steroids and all sorts of other nasties I can't pronounce.
    Lol stereotypes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    The bottom line: feeding children large amounts of animal products = poisoning them with bad foods and teaching them unhealthy habits which can lead to disease.
    But they're not telling kids to eat two pounds of ground beef every meal. I can't believe you've already sensationalized the story; that's some sort of record.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuru View Post
    Meat does not necessarily need to be unhealthy, but as the French government wants to add animal products to ALL sold wares in schools, there's gonna be a lack of diversity, which, in the long run, causes students to be less able to pay attention, not even starting about the denial of their psychical condition.
    What? Adding chicken to a sandwich and cheese to a salad isn't going to cause kids to become retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Angelic Anathema View Post
    Fixed


    You've forgotten fish. The Japanese consume a large quantity of fish.
    Yes they do, but fish contain large amounts of mercury not to mention the devastating effects over-fishing is having on our oceans.


    Lol stereotypes.

    No, it's just a fact. Longest life expectancy: Japan, Highest obesity rate: USA.


    But they're not telling kids to eat two pounds of ground beef every meal. I can't believe you've already sensationalized the story; that's some sort of record.


    What? Adding chicken to a sandwich and cheese to a salad isn't going to cause kids to become retarded.
    Not retarded, I never used that word, but animal products are not healthy and are linked to western diseases. This is not opinion, it's just fact. I'm not here to argue either. Just to educate. Maybe do some research of your own before critisizing my statements? You may be surprised at what you find. A great place to start is "The China Study".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    Not retarded, I never used that word, but animal products are not healthy and are linked to western diseases. This is not opinion, it's just fact. I'm not here to argue either. Just to educate. Maybe do some research of your own before critisizing my statements? You may be surprised at what you find. A great place to start is "The China Study".

    Yes but at the same time, not having animal products in your diet also decline your health in the long run... Just a fact....

    Here you go kiddo


    People who don't eat meat can, have and very well might obtain: sight problems, skin problems, blood diseases, mouth diseases, ulcers, fatigue is a big one, memory loss, depression (also a big one), rickets, osteomalacia, poor hair health, Osteoporosis, other bone problems (another big one), intestinal disorders and "easily offended" attitudes. Also from the related link below, it states that: "In an even more comprehensive British study involving nearly 8,000 subjects, a Cambridge University professor now says that children born to vegetarian mothers are up to five times more likely to be born with 'deformities' and other birth defects". The scientist leading the research told a Europe Intelligence Wire reporter that "there is a clear association between child deformities and vegetarianism, and this is a cause for concern."" If that doesn't spark some kind of concern for people especially women who neglect meat in their diet, I think you need a heart. Or some kids. Also, look at those teeth you have. Those pointy ones, yeah, incisors, those are there for a reason, to eat meat.
    Your argument is sort of invalid since it can be thrown right back


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    Default Re: France forbids vegetarian and vegan food in the schools

    I thought that people knew that too much, or too less, from any possible vitamin, mineral or whatever, is generally bad for said consumer. My point in the previous post was, that with the increase of animal products in schools, the health of the students will gradually decline as they already consume enough animal products (and their minerals) during breakfast and dinner. This is easily remedied by having students bring their own lunch, like most usually do, daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post

    Yes but at the same time, not having animal products in your diet also decline your health in the long run... Just a fact....

    Here you go kiddo




    Your argument is sort of invalid since it can be thrown right back
    Sigh. I don't know why i'm bothering, but here you go:

    http://www.waoy.org/26.html
    http://www.vegsource.com/news/2009/1...of-eating.html
    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/09/12/13120.aspx

    I have not eaten meat for 14 yrs and never experieced a single one of those ailments (although I have meat-eating friends that have suffered some of those mentioned).
    Trust me I have heard every argument for and against, and looked into both with an open mind. I believe in science, nothing else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    Sigh. I don't know why i'm bothering, but here you go:

    http://www.waoy.org/26.html
    http://www.vegsource.com/news/2009/1...of-eating.html
    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/09/12/13120.aspx

    I have not eaten meat for 14 yrs and never experieced a single one of those ailments (although I have meat-eating friends that have suffered some of those mentioned).
    Trust me I have heard every argument for and against, and looked into both with an open mind. I believe in science, nothing else.
    Oh lookie biased sources!!! And one has a background of chicks... Why would I read something so unprofessional.. One is vegetarian, so biased.. The other one is a lie because I actually have osteoporosis ANNNNNNNNNNND it's because I don't drink milk and thus do not have enough calcium in my bones...

    Come'on keep em coming, what other sources ya got??


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    Default Re: France forbids vegetarian and vegan food in the schools

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1286537/
    http://thechinastudy.com/
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=102306407
    http://vegetarian.about.com/od/veget...ossilfuels.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factory_farming


    Biased is a little unfair - the meat and dairy industry are worth millions, and have unbelievable marketing budgets. Unlike fruit and veg farmers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    Not retarded, I never used that word, but animal products are not healthy and are linked to western diseases. This is not opinion, it's just fact. I'm not here to argue either. Just to educate. Maybe do some research of your own before critisizing my statements? You may be surprised at what you find. A great place to start is "The China Study".
    In sum, “The China Study” is a compelling collection of carefully chosen data. Unfortunately for both health seekers and the scientific community, Campbell appears to exclude relevant information when it indicts plant foods as causative of disease, or when it shows potential benefits for animal products.
    Eat my Google-fu. http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the...act-or-fallac/

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    @The Angelic Anathema , The China study is just one of many. And try finding a single scientific study without a negative review somewhere....

    Sorry I really am not here to argue. If any of you are genuinely interested in this topic and want to learn more with an open mind, I'll let you do that in your time. I thought I'd weigh in on this thread with what I have learned and experienced over the last 14 yrs (which I thought would count for more than 10 mins of googling) but I didn't expect such a nasty reaction.

    Ciao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasanime View Post
    @The Angelic Anathema , The China study is just one of many. And try finding a single scientific study without a negative review somewhere....

    Sorry I really am not here to argue. If any of you are genuinely interested in this topic and want to learn more with an open mind, I'll let you do that in your time. I thought I'd weigh in on this thread with what I have learned and experienced over the last 14 yrs (which I thought would count for more than 10 mins of googling) but I didn't expect such a nasty reaction.

    Ciao.
    Criticism isn't a nasty reaction. Classic hypersensitive vegan self victimization.

     
    Not related, but still humorous.

     
    Also this

    Last edited by Anoleis; 02-29-2012 at 04:45 PM.

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    Default Re: France forbids vegetarian and vegan food in the schools

    Someone has to eat all that escargot...

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    Default Re: France forbids vegetarian and vegan food in the schools

    for once...i like france! and thats a lot to hear from me. cuz i really hate those people. just a stain on this earth in my eyes. but this is good! vegetarianism is for the weak and deformed, and deformed weak. medium rare meat. i like to taste the animal last emotion. puts a smile on my face


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    @The Angelic Anathema Oh no that picture was just so wrong... >___<

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    GOOD! buck that playdoe food.it sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    What, exactly is the problem with this again?
    what do you mean whats the problem with this? it prevents freedom of speech, isn't that important at all to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocksatron View Post
    what do you mean whats the problem with this? it prevents freedom of speech, isn't that important at all to you?

    No it doesn't... Just because they don't offer you Tofu doesn't mean you can't bring it... I mean when I was in school, my school didn't offer me some twinkies... I'm on a strict twinkie diet!!! School not serving me my daily serving of twinkies is a violation of my freedom of speech...!!!!!

    See how stupid that argument sounds when you replace it with twinkies...
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    Default Re: France forbids vegetarian and vegan food in the schools

    Quote Originally Posted by stocksatron View Post
    what do you mean whats the problem with this? it prevents freedom of speech, isn't that important at all to you?
    They ban conspicuous religious symbols (like crucifixes), not religious speech. I don't see how this is any more of a violation of your freedom to express yourself than the laws that require you to wear pants.

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    I was talking about religion not food

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    they ban the veil and turbans as well

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    fair play my friend

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    [QUOTE=The Angelic Anathema;2653538][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_scarf_controversy_in_France"will come into force in April 2011.[/URL][/QUOTE]

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    I was talking about religion not food

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