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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    Black it out, Ace. This bill is terrible, and everyone who agrees with it should be ashamed. I would like to make a note here, that MICROSOFT is completely against this bill. And that company alone weighs out the NFL and Marvel.




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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    I say no.

    Why? Because I'll have nothing to do if AF blacks out! ;.; The chat accounts for at least half my day.

    But if everyone decides to do it, I must abide by the group decision.
    Then what will you do if SOPA passes and you'll never be able to get on AF ever again??? AF is doomed if SOPA is approved. Which do you prefer? One day in hopes of stopping SOPA, or not doing anything and SOPA passing and what could've just been a day ends up being for good?

    I mean even if we do black out and SOPA is approved, at least we tried to stand up against it, which is better than not standing up and wondering if maybe us and more people got involved, if we could've changed it. We don't have much to lose except a mere day of fourming but hopefully a lot to gain. Gain some insight into how bad this bill is.
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    True, true. But I wonder if the Internet "Blacking out" will actually do something. It's just a bunch of sites (Granted a large number of but large and small sites), not the entire internet. Plus, it's not gonna stop piracy anyhow. Pirates will keep pirating like always.

    Also, is any of this "blacking out" gonna include apps? Probably not, even if they could. I don't hear too much from Apple, Microsoft, and other super large corp. Sure there's google, and a couple of others, but will that be enough?

    From where I stand/sit, the only one able to stop this is probably Obama. OR maybe this whole shin-dig makes everyone get off their butts and call their congressmen/women to tell them to quit herp-derpin' around and being idiots. But hey, 2015 we're gonna need passports to travel state to state anyways (That bill came, got passed, and went a long while ago.) and the indefinite detention bill was passed.... So what will we really do?
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    Deathblade, stop being a silly nerd.

    You can live one day without sitting your arse on the computer, right?

    This must be done, and brought way down to the deepest hole in hell. I'm not letting this ruin my YT career or my internet experience for that matter.
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    No.... I'm unemployed. Thus I spend my time on online college courses, and AF. If I had a job, Sure I could do it.

    BUT on another note. All those wanting to actually do something productive (More so than an e-strike). Go here http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/. You can find you state congressmen and congresswomen, find out whether they are for it, against it, or even undecided about it. Look and find your Senators and Representatives, and contact those that are for it and those that are undecided, to sway them to vote NO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    I say no.

    Why? Because I'll have nothing to do if AF blacks out! ;.; The chat accounts for at least half my day.

    But if everyone decides to do it, I must abide by the group decision.
    I remember when I was a chat addict, I don't really mind if AF is blacked out, as long as YT or VO aren't. :\
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Moth View Post
    I remember when I was a chat addict, I don't really mind if AF is blacked out, as long as YT or VO aren't. :\
    They will be, as well as anything and everything tied to vocaloids.
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    I'm in. This is gonna affect some sites i visit(Besides AF).
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    Well it seems that you do not want a large number of groups to come forward it shouldn't matter if the sites are big or small. It shouldn't matter if one site doesn't have much of a base. All that matters is that you stood up for it and hoped to make an impact.
    It shouldn't matter, yes, but to politicians who don't care, it does. Again, I'm not doubting the fact that a bunch of sites going down isn't going to spread the word about SOPA. However, as it stands now, the blackout is only going to affect the subculture of people who use those sites. Its a large number of sites, but those sites only appeal to our Internet subculture. Outside of that circle, nobody is going to know or care. Like I said, I only knew the existence of a very, very small number of those sites; the others I didn't know about until a list was posted. If they were to blackout right now, I wouldn't know about it. And unless word were to get out to news outlets, neither would the politicians whose attention we are trying to grab by pulling this stunt.

    In my opinion, we shouldn't be focusing on those within our subculture. If Wikipedia is going to get into it, great. This needs to get out to everybody. The "SOPA is going to cripple the Internet" message is not going to get through just because people can't get access to their LOLcats.

    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    Okay, so Marvel and NFL both support SOPA.. But you didn't mention the corporations who don't.
    I didn't mention them because they were irrelevant to what I was saying (and so far, among those supporters, only Wikipedia is going to be involved in the blackout, making the others even more irrelevant). If the blackout is meant for us to stand up against SOPA, what else are we going to do for the day? Sit and twiddle our thumbs until the blackout is over? And once the blackout is over, is it business as usual? Is that the end of it?

    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    We are not giving any money to this. We are simply showing... You want to control the internet... Well this is what will happen...
    I understand the message that sites trying to send, but is this message going to get through with what we have? It will certainly get through to people of our subculture, but what about everybody else? If Wikipedia, Yahoo, eBay, and Google went down, or even if they put banners on their sites, the message gets out to more people. But a bunch of gaming sites and blogs going down doesn't demonstrate the "crippled" Internet that we have been warning people about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    But yeah, as Blueangel has said. The only way to highlight the severity of the impact this will have on the internet, we must in fact demonstrate, nay simulate what will happen if this law passes.
    Indeed. But is that going to happen with the sites we have now? Again, other than Reddit and Wikipedia, the sites involved deal with our little niche of people. But what about getting that message beyond our nerdy community? A bunch of downed online gaming sites isn't much to talk about outside of our community (hell, news of it probably won't even spread outside of this little niche). But if Google or Twitter or Facebook put up banners, or even shut down, that would be hard for other people to ignore. Hell, the media would be hard pressed to ignore it, what with them using social websites now. If they are not personally affected by it, there will a bunch of people who will be and they are going to want answers from them.

    If we are going to show people what this law will do to them, we need to hit hard. One's inability to access Minecraft isn't the end of the Internet. Even more so if they can just go about their business on Facebook until the blackout is over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    They will be, as well as anything and everything tied to vocaloids.
    I... I don't believe you... I doubt VO and Nico Nico would close on such an important release of a Vocaloid, they wouldn't do that especially since it's the overhyped Vocaloid IA gets released one day before that. -goes back in his VocaCave-
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    go for it, the boneheads in D.C dont get the fact that you cant control the internet it is like trying to tell the sky not to rain and the wind not to blow
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90 View Post
    If we are going to show people what this law will do to them, we need to hit hard. One's inability to access Minecraft isn't the end of the Internet. Even more so if they can just go about their business on Facebook until the blackout is over.

    That's why you start small and go big. You're wanting it to just BOOM BAM BIG IMPACT right from the start... No... It's us small nerdy sites that are hopefully going to domino effect other bigger sites into joining. Small in size but big in numbers can say a lot... A drop of water slowly turns into a stream which slowly flows into a big ocean.

    A small single seed blooms into a nice big flower... A small site like us + many other small sites + a few bigger sites, can make an impact. We still have time before the 18th. Maybe big sites will do it and make a big statement. You don't know. They can be keeping it hush hush. Either way, I say go for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Light Moth View Post
    I... I don't believe you... I doubt VO and Nico Nico would close on such an important release of a Vocaloid, they wouldn't do that especially since it's the overhyped Vocaloid IA gets released one day before that. -goes back in his VocaCave-
    They totally did.
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeathBlade/13.666 View Post
    They totally did.
    iI was about to ask what the heck Vocaloid had to do with SOPA, then realised the whole copyright thing...

    See, how problematic this is?


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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    I say go for it. Put some kind of info or links about what SOPA is for those who don't understand. It's not the ideal way of tackling this, im not sure what is, but if enough sites close down then maybe someone in the media world, outside of the internet, would notice and tell the world what a stupid thing this is. Enough anger against the US for doing this should make them stop, if not for anything else but peace relations. I'm surprised there haven't been any riots or similar about this though, occupy wall-street etc has had tons of coverage but the possible shutdown of the internet, few people know about it. =S

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    Sure go ahead, I can survive a day without AF. Though, I don't think it will make such a big difference. But still, better then nothing.
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    No because there's no point protesting about a act that is now dead as a doorknob

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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    Quote Originally Posted by demonix View Post
    No because there's no point protesting about a act that is now dead as a doorknob
    it's not over, it's been sidelined. SOPA are seemingly talking about the bill with some of the blackout sites. (probably the big ones)
    so, SOPA has been set back, but it's not actually over just yet

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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    Wikipedia are still intending to honour the 'blackout' so I suppose that all the sites that agreed to do it will do it.

    So.... prepare for tomorrow to be the most constructive day of work, ever. o_o
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    Default Re: Should we black out the sites against SOPA?

    I'd be absolutely hillarious if PSN and xbox live both blacked out too... The world wouldn't know what to do!

    Even though things are looking up, I still say do it. No point in backing out now even though it's looking to be in our favor.. Better to say it and do it then as things look up, not do it and then they change their mind with "hmmm seems like they don't care as much in the end...."


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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    I'd be absolutely hillarious if PSN and xbox live both blacked out too... The world wouldn't know what to do!

    Even though things are looking up, I still say do it. No point in backing out now even though it's looking to be in our favor.. Better to say it and do it then as things look up, not do it and then they change their mind with "hmmm seems like they don't care as much in the end...."
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    We will be blacked out starting 8am EST tomorrow morning. The code is in place already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    I'd be absolutely hillarious if PSN and xbox live both blacked out too... The world wouldn't know what to do!

    Even though things are looking up, I still say do it. No point in backing out now even though it's looking to be in our favor.. Better to say it and do it then as things look up, not do it and then they change their mind with "hmmm seems like they don't care as much in the end...."
    Better yet, I think google and facebook/twitter should black out themselves. For one, it would create pandemonium. Two, with people not able to access their favorite Zynga games or read up on the latest gossip, they would freak. And three, with the people freaking out, they will lash out. Those are sites that I believe that would be greatly affected by SOPA in one form or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou Ace View Post
    We will be blacked out starting 8am EST tomorrow morning. The code is in place already!
    I wish I came here more often, but thumbs up! Now to get the lead admin of another forum to do so...
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