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I think I missed some votes, so Im double checking but here:
MaruDashi  Scruffy, Miki~, RyuTama, Yukari, SuXrys
Scruffy  GameGeeks, MaruDashi, Meteorkeeper, Reina
GameGeeks  LittleMomo, ZombieWolf2508
Meteorkeeper  animeyay, Sr Machinehead
Last edited by Kaitou+; 11-14-2011 at 02:52 PM.
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@Kaitou+ Why isn't MaruDashi highlighted as well? Scruffy and her are tied for votes.
I think I got it right.
Sorry, it took me HOURS to get my butt to finally go through the entire derpy thread --all while suppressing irritations--, much less reply (and this is my second wolf ever, so crap is hard).
Much of what I wanted to say was already said before, but I'll have to put some of my train of thought to demonstrate why I think my final judgement would be plausible, as well as empathize some points.
1. Let's start with the simple fact that keeps flying above people's heads no matter how much it is mentioned again: that there are two wolf factions, who have their winning condition include defeating the other wolf faction.
Since some people are apparently still unable to read it right, I'll translate it to plain English: Wolves find other wolves just as much enemies as regular townies. You have no reason to trust anyone in this game. This is not a "town versus wolves" game; this is a death match that involves three teams.
Of course, having no reason to trust is something, and outright accusing is another. Throughout most of the thread, there was no particularly strong evidence against Scruffy despite that he did give some subtle scummy vibes.
2. Scruffy, throughout the game, was relying less on real logical reasoning and more on appeals to his image and tautologies (I'll call them "theatrics"). Which is downright a logical fallacy. He keeps providing poor substance and saying, "I am experienced", and "I have sufficiently substantiated my opinion" when he clearly hadn't. And people are taking them at face value, as already pointed out, without much evaluating their actual merit.
Again, all of this alone doesn't immediately say he's necessarily malicious. I gave him the benefit of the doubt; I said to myself, he still could be just a townie trying to use these theatrics. After all, it's been said more than once in the thread that this is his style everywhere and every time. (Again, that alone doesn't clear his name, either.)
However, there was something that specifically gave me a strong malicious vibe from him: GameGeeks was responding with completely logical appeals, which Scruffy specifically disrespected - and went as far as calling them "derpy reads".
Why some of the more logical out of all posts are your designated DERPY READS? I believe you have demonstrated enough that you have the intelligence to comprehend the logic in GameGeeks' posts. Therefore, the reason you'd dis their intelligence is not that you failed to comprehend them, but because you need to ridicule them to make them appear less plausible to the less critical-minded.
This is downright scummy behavior. Of course, a rational opponent is never convenient when you are guilty. You have to get rid of him one way or the other.
I [Vote Lynch Scruffy].
The Butcher , you said you were planning on putting the pressure on Scruffy this day phase. What're your thoughts now? I don't think I've seen anything from you yet, and the phase is drawing to a close.
And GG, no, the town doesn't need to get rid of Independents to win. As long as the mafia alone is lynched, town wins, no matter what Independents are left. I highly suggest you put mafia higher than independents on your priority list if you're in fact a townie.
Also, wow, a lot of people that haven't really said anything at all... I already see Butcher and @Aku no Hikari here, but there's also @November , @Screwby , @Sailor Uta (if she's still playing; can't remember), @battousai_ryuu , and @-GAZKUL- . I haven't seen much from any of you. The town would like your input if you don't mind.
There is mafia on Scruffy's wagon.
There is also a chance that Scruffy is indie, but his win con might be able to help him win with town.
Then there is the thing about him being a a part of the other Mafia. Someone investigate him just in case.
I'm not the one to follow wagons so...I picked one from Scruffy's wagon.
[Vote Lynch Reina]
Not once have I relied on my experience in order to accomplish an objective. Every single suspicion I have of someone, I have provided evidence for, or have otherwise made clear that I had nothing to substantiate my beliefs, as I did with Reina earlier on. Either you have not actually read a single accusation I have made, or you are conveniently choosing to ignore them.
Nope. Wrong again. Please read through my posts, because it is clear that you have not. I have replied to nearly every post of GG's in regards to me.However, there was something that specifically gave me a strong malicious vibe from him: GameGeeks was responding with completely logical appeals, which Scruffy specifically disrespected - and went as far as calling them "derpy reads".
His suppositions are in fact derpy, as they are completely illogical. It would make no sense for a member of a two man mafia to draw this much attention to themselves, thereby getting themselves killed, within the first two day phases of the game. Their win condition is to eliminate town, mafia, and other independents. That means they would have to, at the bare minimum, eliminate 26 players. Do you really think that they could accomplish this if one of the members essentially got themselves killed early in the game? No. It is absolutely ridiculous to think they would do this. Do not even attempt to argue that I would just be trying to hunt mafia. Town would keep me around so long as I got mafia killed, and the second I failed to produce any solid leads or actual results, I would be lynched.Why some of the more logical out of all posts are your designated DERPY READS? I believe you have demonstrated enough that you have the intelligence to comprehend the logic in GameGeeks' posts. Therefore, the reason you'd dis their intelligence is not that you failed to comprehend them, but because you need to ridicule them to make them appear less plausible to the less critical-minded.
I am on the verge of being lynched, and will thus reveal a portion of my identity: I am, in fact, an Independent.
Even if he was a part of the NF Duo mafia, wouldn't it be logical for the town to let him live on so as to further dwindle the numbers of the larger mafia? That's how I see it.
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I'm actually interested in why you don't suspect me, @MaruDashi . I admit I've been pretty sided with Scruffy, and I haven't been hiding this fact. Not to mention I've voted for you as well. Do you have any concerns for me or the others on your wagon at all? We'd be happy to engage you in conversation if you have any questions for us.
Also, me thinks its lulzy for scruffy to.claim independant. Regardless, Im pretty sure the town needs them gone as well to win
The ball is in your court, town. Lynch mafia in Maru, or lynch Independent in myself.
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Forgot to add this, but I'm leaving and likely won't be back until the lynch actually happens.
The only reason I have been so inactive is 1) I was just added during D2, because I replaced Ms.Lucy. I didn't have a chance for D1 because I was added during N1.
And another is because I slept, went to school, then worked on a project since my finals are coming up soon.
In my opinion, those are pretty legitimate excuses.
AWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOO!!!!!! don't inactive kill me just yet, been at college all day and didn't get on last night due to having to watch the Ravens do a Ravens.
[Vote Lynch Scruffy] for no other reason than i know a guy who likes to be called Scruff but due to being misheard is now cursed to be called Furry for the rest of his life.... It's a wolf's life sometimes....
@Aku no Hikari I, as Ryu, have seen you in the thread some now and then but you havn't been writing so much. Why?
Do you have a list of suspect people or do you just in general wait to write and vote at all? The hanging-around-in-the-thread without saying anything and waiting for voting until the last minute just seems a little suspicios in my eyes. Care to share a few thought with us others? ... Even if there is only about 20 minutes left....
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I see you in the thread right now for example, and have seen you here for some time now. Why not writing?
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Season four of Sherlock
The new Hobbit movie
Season five of Game of Thrones
New episodes of Downton Abbey
@RyuTama No, because he's could build up enough sway that it'd be difficult to take him out since it's already apparent people are following him. Not to mention there's the possibility he's in the first mafia and Ribbon simply sacrificed herself to boost peoples opinions of him and garner their trusts. At which point he could lead them in the wrong direction. There's any number of possibilities that could be performed.
because if you vote no lynch it makes it look like you can't even be bothered trying, besides i can't be bothered typing out the paragraph of bolded text required to change your vote these days....
4 pages to catch up on. Ready, set, go! *reads*
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