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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffy View Post
    We? I don't remember you voting for Ribbon.
    I know, when I said we, I meant the town.

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    I think I missed some votes, so Im double checking but here:
    MaruDashi [5] Scruffy, Miki~, RyuTama, Yukari, SuXrys
    Scruffy [4] GameGeeks, MaruDashi, Meteorkeeper, Reina
    GameGeeks [2] LittleMomo, ZombieWolf2508
    Meteorkeeper [2] animeyay, Sr Machinehead

    Voting pattern:

     
    1. Scruffy > MaruDashi
    2. MaruDashi > Scruffy
    3. November
    4. RyuTama > MaruDashi
    5. Daken
    6. Screwby
    7. GameGeeks > Scruffy
    8. Tsuki.
    9. Reina > Scruffy
    10. ZombieWolf2508 > GameGeeks
    11. -GAZKUL-
    12, Sailor Uta
    13. Sr. Machinehead > Meteoerkeeper
    14. The Butcher
    15. SuXrys > MaruDashi
    16. Loki
    18. Miki~ > MaruDashi
    19. animeyay > Meteoerkeeper
    21. Meteorkeeper > Scruffy
    22. MikuChuu
    23. Aleyna
    24. blueangel06661
    25. LittleMomo > GameGeeks
    26. battousai_ryuu
    27. Yukari > MaruDashi
    28. Aku no Hikari
    Last edited by Kaitou+; 11-14-2011 at 02:52 PM.

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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    Quote Originally Posted by Scruffy View Post
    Do you believe I am independent, then? If so, this could seriously change your perspective.
    It does, but in the way it makes me lean towards duo mafia.

    ---------- Post added at 02:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:45 PM ----------

    @Kaitou+ Why isn't MaruDashi highlighted as well? Scruffy and her are tied for votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleyna View Post
    I know, when I said we, I meant the town.
    Sure you did.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    I think I missed some votes, so Im double checking but here:

    Scruffy [4] GameGeeks, MaruDashi, Meteorkeeper, Reina
    MaruDashi [4] Scruffy, Miki~, RyuTama Yukari
    GameGeeks [2] LittleMomo, ZombieWolf2508
    Meteorkeeper [2] animeyay, Sr Machinehead

    Voting pattern:
    Why is my name bolded? Wouldn't it be RNG'd? Unless there is a Godfather in that mix.
    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    It does, but in the way it makes me lean towards duo mafia.
    I can't believe how many people actually believe that a member of a two man mafia would expose themselves this early. Definitely providing a good laugh.

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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    @Kaitou+ didn't @SuXrys vote for marudashi too?

    Here

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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    @Scruffy

    my bad. Let me fix that crap.

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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    @Scruffy , could be an attempt to supporters which it seems to have done well the first round. There's all sorts of manipulative tactics that can be used.

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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    I think I got it right.

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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    Sorry, it took me HOURS to get my butt to finally go through the entire derpy thread --all while suppressing irritations--, much less reply (and this is my second wolf ever, so crap is hard).

    Much of what I wanted to say was already said before, but I'll have to put some of my train of thought to demonstrate why I think my final judgement would be plausible, as well as empathize some points.

    1. Let's start with the simple fact that keeps flying above people's heads no matter how much it is mentioned again: that there are two wolf factions, who have their winning condition include defeating the other wolf faction.

    Since some people are apparently still unable to read it right, I'll translate it to plain English: Wolves find other wolves just as much enemies as regular townies. You have no reason to trust anyone in this game. This is not a "town versus wolves" game; this is a death match that involves three teams.

    Of course, having no reason to trust is something, and outright accusing is another. Throughout most of the thread, there was no particularly strong evidence against Scruffy despite that he did give some subtle scummy vibes.

    2. Scruffy, throughout the game, was relying less on real logical reasoning and more on appeals to his image and tautologies (I'll call them "theatrics"). Which is downright a logical fallacy. He keeps providing poor substance and saying, "I am experienced", and "I have sufficiently substantiated my opinion" when he clearly hadn't. And people are taking them at face value, as already pointed out, without much evaluating their actual merit.

    Again, all of this alone doesn't immediately say he's necessarily malicious. I gave him the benefit of the doubt; I said to myself, he still could be just a townie trying to use these theatrics. After all, it's been said more than once in the thread that this is his style everywhere and every time. (Again, that alone doesn't clear his name, either.)

    However, there was something that specifically gave me a strong malicious vibe from him: GameGeeks was responding with completely logical appeals, which Scruffy specifically disrespected - and went as far as calling them "derpy reads".

    Why some of the more logical out of all posts are your designated DERPY READS? I believe you have demonstrated enough that you have the intelligence to comprehend the logic in GameGeeks' posts. Therefore, the reason you'd dis their intelligence is not that you failed to comprehend them, but because you need to ridicule them to make them appear less plausible to the less critical-minded.

    This is downright scummy behavior. Of course, a rational opponent is never convenient when you are guilty. You have to get rid of him one way or the other.

    I [Vote Lynch Scruffy].
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meteorkeeper View Post
    Good question...How about the fact that I am a terrible lire lol.

    That could explain why you're just no posting that much. Too paranoid of letting something slip, ja?

    Seriously though I am not mafia and you have as much reason to believe that I am as you do anyone elts and besides why should we believe you are not mafia and just trying to shift the focus off of scruffy.
    I have as much reason to suspect anyone else, that's true. But this simple post from you has actually increased my suspicions. You're saying I'm trying to divert the attention from Scruffy? How does that affect you? What are your views? You voted for him and yet you have no reason other than "going along with the crowd". I'm not defending him if that's what you're implying, because I myself have stated my own minor concerns.

    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    @RyuTama So wait, I should just forget what happened last round as if it never happened.
    Of course not. But what happened last round? Scruffy led the lynching of a mafia. And yet you're somehow using that against him. Understandable that you would be wary of his absolute certainly, but it doesn't change the fact that the reason we're down one scum is primarily because of him.

    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    No, those points from last round still stand. And it has nothing to do with my vote this round.
    ...From your previous statement it sounded like you were basing your vote off of everything you saw from Scruffy in the last Day Phase. Now you're saying it has nothing to do with it. Can you clarify?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    That doesnt mean that one mafia isnt trying to take you out. Hell, the action coulodve been a seer action that failed.
    What does the failed mafia kill have to do with the Seer?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    Yes, I did jump the gun and offer an apology only for him to vote for me with -no reason- as he went to 'bed' instead of taking the extra 5 minutes of posting why. I know Im a town, so his vote for me just disproves of his "scumdar" and proves, to me, that hes just a lucky guesser. Seeing as how Ribbon of the Mafia, Id bet a good deal that Scruffy is on the other mafia team and is now trying to take out any threats. When Im proved to be a townie, Im sure he'll just say his "scumdar" is off.
    You may know you're town, but plenty of others think otherwise. Instead of accusing Scruffy, how about making a defense for yourself? And if he is indeed in the other mafia and "is now trying to take out any threats", then why would he vote for you when you had already supported his notion of a scumdar? It seemed as if he had gained your trust, so why would he consider you a threat?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    I thought you were reffering to the "scroll" action. Yes, it said Mafia tried to kill [???] why do you assume thats you?? Do you have an ability to block kills that you wanna share??
    You had previously asked why the mafia didn't kill Scruffy. We explained it for you. If Scruffy is town or even in the NF Duo, then the mafia would have most likely selected him to kill during the Night Phase, seeing as how he's already successfully lynched a power role in the mafia. However something or someone prevented that. It's not strange in the least bit to assume that Scruffy was the one the mafia failed to kill.

    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    @Scruffy , Right now I'm thinking that's Butcher, but he hasn't been active lately. And Why wouldn't townies want an independent lynched? We need them gone to win too.
    Speaking of which, @The Butcher , you said you were planning on putting the pressure on Scruffy this day phase. What're your thoughts now? I don't think I've seen anything from you yet, and the phase is drawing to a close.

    And GG, no, the town doesn't need to get rid of Independents to win. As long as the mafia alone is lynched, town wins, no matter what Independents are left. I highly suggest you put mafia higher than independents on your priority list if you're in fact a townie.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    I think I've just confirmed you as a second member of the other mafia
    What makes you think that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miki~ View Post
    @RyuTama

    who all are you suspecting?
    Uh, well, I think it's a matter of who I'm NOT suspecting at this point, lol. However I have to say my main suspects are MaruDashi and Meteorkeeper. GameGeeks is getting there too, though. What about you?


    Also, wow, a lot of people that haven't really said anything at all... I already see Butcher and @Aku no Hikari here, but there's also @November , @Screwby , @Sailor Uta (if she's still playing; can't remember), @battousai_ryuu , and @-GAZKUL- . I haven't seen much from any of you. The town would like your input if you don't mind.


     
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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    There is mafia on Scruffy's wagon.

    There is also a chance that Scruffy is indie, but his win con might be able to help him win with town.

    Then there is the thing about him being a a part of the other Mafia. Someone investigate him just in case.

    I'm not the one to follow wagons so...I picked one from Scruffy's wagon.

    [Vote Lynch Reina]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aku no Hikari View Post
    2. Scruffy, throughout the game, was relying less on real logical reasoning and more on appeals to his image and tautologies (I'll call them "theatrics"). Which is downright a logical fallacy. He keeps providing poor substance and saying, "I am experienced", and "I have sufficiently substantiated my opinion" when he clearly hadn't. And people are taking them at face value, as already pointed out, without much evaluating their actual merit.
    My friend, you are dead wrong.

    Not once have I relied on my experience in order to accomplish an objective. Every single suspicion I have of someone, I have provided evidence for, or have otherwise made clear that I had nothing to substantiate my beliefs, as I did with Reina earlier on. Either you have not actually read a single accusation I have made, or you are conveniently choosing to ignore them.

    However, there was something that specifically gave me a strong malicious vibe from him: GameGeeks was responding with completely logical appeals, which Scruffy specifically disrespected - and went as far as calling them "derpy reads".
    Nope. Wrong again. Please read through my posts, because it is clear that you have not. I have replied to nearly every post of GG's in regards to me.

    Why some of the more logical out of all posts are your designated DERPY READS? I believe you have demonstrated enough that you have the intelligence to comprehend the logic in GameGeeks' posts. Therefore, the reason you'd dis their intelligence is not that you failed to comprehend them, but because you need to ridicule them to make them appear less plausible to the less critical-minded.
    His suppositions are in fact derpy, as they are completely illogical. It would make no sense for a member of a two man mafia to draw this much attention to themselves, thereby getting themselves killed, within the first two day phases of the game. Their win condition is to eliminate town, mafia, and other independents. That means they would have to, at the bare minimum, eliminate 26 players. Do you really think that they could accomplish this if one of the members essentially got themselves killed early in the game? No. It is absolutely ridiculous to think they would do this. Do not even attempt to argue that I would just be trying to hunt mafia. Town would keep me around so long as I got mafia killed, and the second I failed to produce any solid leads or actual results, I would be lynched.

    I am on the verge of being lynched, and will thus reveal a portion of my identity: I am, in fact, an Independent.

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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    @RyuTama The nothing to do with it comment was about him being gone for the night. I didn't use that in my judgement. And my point last round was about him being overconfident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    Lmfao, thanks for proving my point yukari

    I think its funny that I cant be as persistant about someone, but its fine if scruffy is. I think Ive just confirmed you as a second member of the other mafia
    Woah. Woah. Wait. Are you saying I'm mafia? Where did this come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    @RyuTama The nothing to do with it comment was about him being gone for the night. I didn't use that in my judgement. And my point last round was about him being overconfident.
    Overconfident or not, he was the reason the town accomplished the feat of getting rid of a mafia power role in DP1. That's the main thing here; he's helping us get rid of scum.

    Even if he was a part of the NF Duo mafia, wouldn't it be logical for the town to let him live on so as to further dwindle the numbers of the larger mafia? That's how I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukari View Post
    Woah. Woah. Wait. Are you saying I'm mafia? Where did this come from?
    I personally think she's saying it because you seem to be the least active player on her wagon, thus giving her a chance to place the suspicion on you without being contradicted by your defense. If that makes sense whatsoever...

    I'm actually interested in why you don't suspect me, @MaruDashi . I admit I've been pretty sided with Scruffy, and I haven't been hiding this fact. Not to mention I've voted for you as well. Do you have any concerns for me or the others on your wagon at all? We'd be happy to engage you in conversation if you have any questions for us.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukari View Post
    Woah. Woah. Wait. Are you saying I'm mafia? Where did this come from?
    Read my post. You seem to blindly trust scruffy or know something we dont, which you stuck up for him right after. You also said Im trying to get people to bandwagon which must make.me scummy, while it seems to be perfectly ok in your eyes for him to do it


    Also, me thinks its lulzy for scruffy to.claim independant. Regardless, Im pretty sure the town needs them gone as well to win

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    Read my post. You seem to blindly trust scruffy or know something we dont, which you stuck up for him right after. You also said Im trying to get people to bandwagon which must make.me scummy, while it seems to be perfectly ok in your eyes for him to do it
    Well. He does have a reason. You seemed to agree on the claim of his scumdar, but quickly changed your mind the moment he placed his vote on you. Would you have still supported him if he had voted for GG or someone else? And if not, why do so in the first place?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    Also, me thinks its lulzy for scruffy to.claim independant. Regardless, Im pretty sure the town needs them gone as well to win
    No. They don't.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaruDashi View Post
    Read my post. You seem to blindly trust scruffy or know something we dont, which you stuck up for him right after. You also said Im trying to get people to bandwagon which must make.me scummy, while it seems to be perfectly ok in your eyes for him to do it
    I never said bandwagon was evil or whatever. And I don't blindly trust Scruffy, he had made some good points, as you have as well, but he killed a wolf, where as you defended her. Even after all the evidence he gave. Therefore I don't trust you. If you or Scruffy end up dying and I was wrong, then I was wrong. But right now, I just don't trust you. Sorry, but that's how it is.
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    Default Re: Wolf XVII: Anime Forum Chronicles

    The ball is in your court, town. Lynch mafia in Maru, or lynch Independent in myself.

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    Forgot to add this, but I'm leaving and likely won't be back until the lynch actually happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuTama View Post
    [/COLOR]I personally think she's saying it because you seem to be the least active player on her wagon, thus giving her a chance to place the suspicion on you without being contradicted by your defense. If that makes sense whatsoever...

    The only reason I have been so inactive is 1) I was just added during D2, because I replaced Ms.Lucy. I didn't have a chance for D1 because I was added during N1.
    And another is because I slept, went to school, then worked on a project since my finals are coming up soon.

    In my opinion, those are pretty legitimate excuses.
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    AWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOO!!!!!! don't inactive kill me just yet, been at college all day and didn't get on last night due to having to watch the Ravens do a Ravens.

    [Vote Lynch Scruffy] for no other reason than i know a guy who likes to be called Scruff but due to being misheard is now cursed to be called Furry for the rest of his life.... It's a wolf's life sometimes....

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    @Aku no Hikari I, as Ryu, have seen you in the thread some now and then but you havn't been writing so much. Why?

    Do you have a list of suspect people or do you just in general wait to write and vote at all? The hanging-around-in-the-thread without saying anything and waiting for voting until the last minute just seems a little suspicios in my eyes. Care to share a few thought with us others? ... Even if there is only about 20 minutes left....


    ---------- Post added at 11:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 PM ----------

    I see you in the thread right now for example, and have seen you here for some time now. Why not writing?

    ---------- Post added at 11:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:39 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by -GAZKUL- View Post
    AWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOO!!!!!! don't inactive kill me just yet, been at college all day and didn't get on last night due to having to watch the Ravens do a Ravens.

    [Vote Lynch Scruffy] for no other reason than i know a guy who likes to be called Scruff but due to being misheard is now cursed to be called Furry for the rest of his life.... It's a wolf's life sometimes....
    If you don't have a good reason to vote for someone, then why dont vote 'no lynch'? Just jumping into the thread in the last minute and placing a vote on Scruffy looks .. well you know the word. So why not voting 'no lynch'? Since you said it yourself... you don't have any good reason for voting for him.

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    @RyuTama No, because he's could build up enough sway that it'd be difficult to take him out since it's already apparent people are following him. Not to mention there's the possibility he's in the first mafia and Ribbon simply sacrificed herself to boost peoples opinions of him and garner their trusts. At which point he could lead them in the wrong direction. There's any number of possibilities that could be performed.

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    because if you vote no lynch it makes it look like you can't even be bothered trying, besides i can't be bothered typing out the paragraph of bolded text required to change your vote these days....

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    4 pages to catch up on. Ready, set, go! *reads*
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