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    Default Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Bobby Montoya is a 7-year-old boy from Denver. Unlike a lot of young boys, Bobby has no desire to join the Boy Scouts. Instead, he wants to be a Girl Scout.

    We first saw Montoya's story over at 9news.com. The NBC affiliate reports that when the boy's mother, Felisha Archuleta, tried to sign her son up for Girl Scouts, a troop leader told her no.

    Archuleta spoke with 9News about the incident. "I said, 'Well, what's the big deal?' She [the troop leader] said, 'It doesn't matter how he looks; he has boy parts, he can't be in Girl Scouts. Girl Scouts don't allow that, [and] I don't want to be in trouble by parents or my supervisor.'"

    Reporters with 9News contacted Girl Scouts of Colorado about Montoya's application, which prompted the group to release a statement: "Our requests for support of transgender kids have grown, and Girl Scouts of Colorado is working to best support these children, their families and the volunteers who serve them. In this case, an associate delivering our program was not aware of our approach. She contacted her supervisor, who immediately began working with the family to get the child involved and supported in Girl Scouts. We are accelerating our support systems and training so that we're better able to serve all girls, families and volunteers."


    We placed a call to Rachelle Trujillo, vice president of communications at Girl Scouts of Colorado, for further clarification. She replied with this statement: "Girl Scouts is an inclusive organization, and we accept all girls in kindergarten through 12th grade as members. If a child lives life as a girl and the family brings the child to us to participate in Girl Scouts, Girl Scouts of Colorado welcomes her. Girl Scouts of Colorado respects the privacy of all girls and families we work with. When a family requests membership for their daughter, we do not require proof of gender, we respect the decisions of families."

    So it would seem that Bobby will get his wish. Gender-identity issues are becoming more common, especially among young children--which makes it more likely that the policy of the Girl Scouts will face future tests in the months and years ahead.
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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    I don't even want to live on this planet anymore.

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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Not really rejection if he got in...............

    And doesn't surprise me that he was originally rejected. If it were me I'd still make him go to the boyscouts. Hardly a difference except one ties knots and the other sells cookies.


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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    This world gets worse every second don't you think? -.-


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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    I had a girl friend who was a boy scout. Nothing odd about it.

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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by RohanDarkling View Post
    I don't even want to live on this planet anymore.
    Why?

    @blueangel06661 Why would you send him to the boyscouts? If he wants to be in it let him, there's nothing wrong with that.

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    I find it really silly a boy wants to be a girl scout the amount of discrimination about this is just unfair.


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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    I wanted to be a boyscout. I knew the oath and everything. Much better than selling cookies outside of Walmart.

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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Oh-Emme-Gee111 somebody call the LGBA immediately, there's a spoiled kid in distress!

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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    To be blunt you guys, I think there's a reason they're called "Boy Scouts" and "Girl Scouts"; they are separated intentionally. As with most things, there will obviously be special circumstances or exceptions, but if someone doesn't get their way, it seems pretty pointless to make it public, because, well, boys were meant to be in boy scouts, and girls were meant to be in girl scouts. I think that if that boy would have made it into girl scouts like he wanted, he may have become very uncomfortable, and as he grew up I'm sure his parents and the parents of the girls he was teamed up with would start being concerned (for obvious reasons).

    Anyway, the boy didn't make it into girl scouts. That's unfortunate for him, but I'm sure he will eventually let it go. In High School and college, he'll probably even be thankful that he doesn't have to hide the fact that he was once a Girl Scout.

    I was rejected from boy scouts. I was a bit put off when I was a kid, sure, but now I feel kinda stupid for it because I'm not a boy.

    Edit: Lolwait so he was actually accepted? Well, good luck to him then...
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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    I don't see the benefit of a boy becoming a 'girl scout'. But there are a lot of negatives, both short and long term.

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    he has boy parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
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    I thought that went along with envy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuTama View Post
    I thought that went along with envy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xey Oiz View Post
    [COLOR="orange"]Why?

    @blueangel06661 Why would you send him to the boyscouts? If he wants to be in it let him, there's nothing wrong with that.

    Rules are there for a REASON? Girls should be in girlscouts and boys should be with boyscouts. Doesn't matter if your a tranny or gay or whatever that's just the way it is. We shouldn't have to make exceptions for "certain cases". Like I remember reading an article about a mentally challenged kid who was officially registered on his high schools football team roster. The whole school loved him he couldn't actually PLAY but he got his jersey and went to every game thinking he was part of the team. HOWEVER he's slow so he's been held back a few years understandably. But there's a rule for high school football that you must be under a certain age limit. Eventually he didn't fit that rule and had to be cut off of the team by RULES. And as much as no one wanted to tell this kid no they had to anyways there was nothing to be done. Handicapped or not. Tranny or not. Rules are rules.


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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Wow I'm amazed he didn't give into peer pressure. But won't it be weird for him to be the only boy in the group. He would regret it when he grows up.
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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    I was in the Boy Scounts for 3 years; it was horrible. At least the Girl Scouts get amazing cookies.

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    I don't think its so much about rules, other than the fact that this child is referring himself the female gender.

    This child is already going to have a difficult time growing up with gender identification. But if Bobby wants to be a Girl scout because that is how he is identifying himself and his parents are ok with it why all the negativity?

    I believe there have been instances where girls joined the Boy scouts, not because they identified themselves as being of the male gender...but because they wanted to make a big deal about it. "Anything you can do" double standard.

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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Bobby was INITIALLY rejected by the Girl Scouts but, as the article clearly points out, he was eventually accepted because apparently the Girl Scouts don't reject "girls" based on their "parts"; if the kid lives life as a girl, is raised like a girl and is presented to the Scouts as a girl, then they welcome them as girls. While the initial rejection was kinda understandable (this certainly doesn't happen very often), if the Scout leader had appealed to her supervisor (who apparently understands the policy about dealing with issues like this), this wouldn't have happened in the first place. Also, the Scout leader could have handled the situation a little better (according to several other articles, the leader made remarks about Bobby's "boy parts" and his name while he was still standing in front of her).

    Apparently, as far as Bobby is concerned, he's a girl. According to his mom, he has known that we was a "girl" since he was very young (about 2 or 3). She went through the motions for years (buying him dolls, throwing him Tangled and pony parties), thinking that he would grow out of it, but then he wondered why he wasn't born a girl. So she started raising him as a girl. Which is where we are now.

    I think its kinda funny that the Scout leader mentioned his "boy parts" considering the fact that, with his dress and Barbie, he kinda looks like a girl to begin with. As his mom pointed out, unless somebody told the other girls that Bobby was a boy, the only way anybody would know for sure that he had "boy parts" would be to pull his pants down; hell, the "boy parts" issue opens up a new can of worms (such as girls who actually have "boy parts").

    I have seen girls on football teams. Guys in drag. At this point, a transgender boy in the Girl Scouts is rather benign compared to other things that I have seen.

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    Rules are there for a REASON? Girls should be in girlscouts and boys should be with boyscouts. Doesn't matter if your a tranny or gay or whatever that's just the way it is.
    And girls should play with Barbies and boys should play with Power Rangers. Girls should have tea parties and boys should play pirate. Girls should be in home economics and boys should be in wood shop class. Girls should be cheerleaders and boys should play football. Girls should stay home and clean while boys go out and work. Girls should marry boys and boys should marry girls.

    I think these were all "rules" at some point.
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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90 View Post
    And girls should play with Barbies and boys should play with Power Rangers. Girls should have tea parties and boys should play pirate. Girls should be in home economics and boys should be in wood shop class. Girls should be cheerleaders and boys should play football. Girls should stay home and clean while boys go out and work. Girls should marry boys and boys should marry girls.

    I think these were all "rules" at some point.
    Uh no? That's just hobbies and preferences. Not actual groups made up of all of GIRLS or BOYS. Hence the... oh I don't know...NAME? There's a fine line there.

    And as for the football thing girls can't play on a co-ed football team except rare instances if they are a kicker. But they don't actually play the sport WITH boys. Girl scouts should be girls only and vice versa for boyscouts. Ewww all the cooties for ruining the system.


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    Girl scout: Miss Tripp, is the new scout a boy?
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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    I agree with Blue but what kinda bugs me is if the kid wants to wear a dress and her mom approves of it, let him wear the dress.

    I personally would not approve the idea out of my son if he wants to be a girlscout but if the kid wanted to and his parents didn't mind, then just let them do it.


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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I had a girl friend who was a boy scout. Nothing odd about it.
    I know Canada does this sort of thing* and I think some other scouting organizations do too, but I'm pretty sure Boy Scouts of America refuses. Then again, BSA is a pretty conservative organization, to the extent that if you admit to being an atheist it qualifies as grounds for expulsion. Which is garbage because the BSA is a government sponsored organization to the extent that the President is the honorary figurehead.

    *- When I was 13ish we went on a CanAm scout trip where a bunch of Canadian and American scout units get together and goof around in the woods. Most of my scout unit (myself excluded, because I didn't care/wanted to sleep) absconded into the woods at night to meet up with and chat with some female boy scouts. Of course, they got caught and either got rounded up by the Explorers (read: older scouts more focused in one vocation, in this case police) or slipped away and back to camp.
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    Default Re: Boy Wants To Be A Girl Scout And Rejected

    Never been a scout but.....why not make it a mixed scout group...thingy so both boys and girls can be part of if they wish and just dissolve boy/girl scouts, or make it a totally different group of scouts......idk if it's a silly idea....or if you understand any of that.

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