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    Default Re: 2 Year old chinese girl over TWICE

    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    OMG my coworker from China literally just told me about this. She said there have been too many cases where when a passer-by helped a collapsed senior, they ended up getting sued by the seniors because the seniors would falsely accuse them of being the cause of their collapse. With that said, people nowadays are very wary of helping others in need because they are afraid of being falsely sued later.
    I find that even more sickening, because it implies that this isn't the first time something like this has happened.

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    Default Re: 2 Year old chinese girl over TWICE

    ...No words express my feelings for this video, except that there are unbelievably cruel people in this world. Even I would have helped the little girl, even if they sued me. Money is a material and materials are not worth a life, no matter the amount.

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    Yeah, I watched the whole thing...

    This is just so wrong in so many ways. =|

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    I see some stranges lines here and there - but what does it mean? O_o
    See this song.
    it's a pun: Chaina Yacchaina = China, do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribbon View Post
    ...No words express my feelings for this video, except that there are unbelievably cruel people in this world. Even I would have helped the little girl, even if they sued me. Money is a material and materials are not worth a life, no matter the amount.

    Well said.
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    Default Re: 2 Year old chinese girl over TWICE

    Well, nothing is completely definite :/ You might feel differently if you were in the shoes of a chinese citizen, viewing the situation and knowing the implications. I agree that a person, much less a little girl, doesn't deserve that at all, but...y'know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reina View Post
    Well, nothing is completely definite :/ You might feel differently if you were in the shoes of a chinese citizen, viewing the situation and knowing the implications. I agree that a person, much less a little girl, doesn't deserve that at all, but...y'know.
    If that citizen can afford to, then they should maybe move somewhere where the human rights aren't as bad.

    Oh, Hi-deeki, imagine... your kind not eating raw fish! ^_^


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantelope View Post
    The way you phrased this makes it seem like it'd have been less offensive had they been Japanese school boys instead.
    Sorry if it came across that way. I was only trying to state the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hideki Motosuwa. View Post
    If that citizen can afford to, then they should maybe move somewhere where the human rights aren't as bad.
    It's not as much a human rights issue as it is a social morality/responsibility issue...

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    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    It's not as much a human rights issue as it is a social morality/responsibility issue...
    Well, that's also true. It's not just the citizens though, whoever makes the laws (sorry, don't know a lot about politics) should shoulder some of that responsibility too. It seems like power and wealth matter more than the citizens.

    Oh, Hi-deeki, imagine... your kind not eating raw fish! ^_^


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hideki Motosuwa. View Post
    Well, that's also true. It's not just the citizens though, whoever makes the laws (sorry, don't know a lot about politics) should shoulder some of that responsibility too. It seems like power and wealth matter more than the citizens.
    I do not agree with you on that one.

    No matter how the laws are looking, you as a human being always have the decision on how to follow it or not, and are the one having the responsibility on how to handle matters. Blaiming on laws or lawmakes are just wrong. Deep down, it is the people that are caring the responsibility / the one who where there and made a decision - no one else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    I do not agree with you on that one.

    No matter how the laws are looking, you as a human being always have the decision on how to follow it or not, and are the one having the responsibility on how to handle matters. Blaiming on laws or lawmakes are just wrong. Deep down, it is the people that are caring the responsibility / the one who where there and made a decision - no one else.
    Yes, but if you don't yield to the law, you're considered to be against it. Citizens can choose to not follow it because the law and lawmakers are unfair. A lot of laws are unjust, and aren't always best for the people. I make my own decisions, but I prefer to follow the law so I don't end up in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hideki Motosuwa. View Post
    Yes, but if you don't yield to the law, you're considered to be against it. Citizens can choose to not follow it because the law and lawmakers are unfair. A lot of laws are unjust, and aren't always best for the people. I make my own decisions, but I prefer to follow the law so I don't end up in jail.
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    I read this story a few days ago. Watching the video made me sick.. Even worse to hear that she had later died.. She wasn't dead when I originally read it. Poor girl.. the first time she got hit maybe the driver didn't see. But not getting out to check and continuing to run over her was just so sickening.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    it's up to you to protest about it. Refusing to obey it is one way.
    It's up to you to try to change it.

    Oh yeah because people LOVE going to jail for disobeying the law. So can I start running redlights now because I don't like stoping at them? -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post

    Oh yeah because people LOVE going to jail for disobeying the law. So can I start running redlights now because I don't like stoping at them? -_-
    If people really doesn't like a law, they should try to change it.
    Period.



    Even if some people want to change laws that are working just fine if you ask me, like stopping at red light while going in traffic. But I cant stand with people who just complains, complains and complains and does nothing, it's one of the worst types of people that I know of. Like people who doesn't like a certain type of politic in their contry... did they vote? Not necessarily... are they active in the politics? Most times no.... uuuuf! >_<


    Trying to change a law doesn't have to get you being throwed in prison. It was just an example I gave before when saying you could ignore that law you don't like. Like with the case of the little girl that we are talking about in this thread: Sure there is a current lawsystem that can make you being throwned in jail if you would've stayed and helped her. BUT it's still your respnsibility as a person on how you actually will act in that certain situation, no matter what any current law says.

    In countries where women arn't allowed to vote there are females that still protest, and yes they are being throwed in jail and punished for trying to change the system. Beacuse what they are currently doing is against the current law. But it's still a risk (prison / punishments) that they are taking: because they are willing to to everything and anything in their power to change the lawsystem. I admire people like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    If people really doesn't like a law, they should try to change it.
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    Even if some people want to change laws that are working just fine if you ask me, like stopping at red light while going in traffic. But I cant stand with people who just complains, complains and complains and does nothing, it's one of the worst types of people that I know of. Like people who doesn't like a certain type of politic in their contry... did they vote? Not necessarily... are they active in the politics? Most times no.... uuuuf! >_<


    Trying to change a law doesn't have to get you being throwed in prison. It was just an example I gave before when saying you could ignore that law you don't like. Like with the case of the little girl that we are talking about in this thread: Sure there is a current lawsystem that can make you being throwned in jail if you would've stayed and helped her. BUT it's still your respnsibility as a person on how you actually will act in that certain situation, no matter what any current law says.

    In countries where women arn't allowed to vote there are females that still protest, and yes they are being throwed in jail and punished for trying to change the system. Beacuse what they are currently doing is against the current law. But it's still a risk (prison / punishments) that they are taking: because they are willing to to everything and anything in their power to change the lawsystem. I admire people like that.
    There are teachers, law enforcement and other well established adults who do not like the law, and complain about it. They also do nothing about it too. However, they have more to lose. They can't risk being thrown in jail because they don't like a certain law, they have families and careers. All people do, but hey, like you said, it's up to the person.

    In the situation with the little girl, I would have helped her and get sued for it. Though I said earlier that I would rather follow the law, rather than risk being thrown in jail, it depends on the situation. If it's over something stupid, I wouldn't waste my breath. For the little girl, I would have given it my best, life is precious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hideki Motosuwa. View Post
    There are teachers, law enforcement and other well established adults who do not like the law, and complain about it. They also do nothing about it too. However, they have more to lose. They can't risk being thrown in jail because they don't like a certain law, they have families and careers. All people do, but hey, like you said, it's up to the person.

    If people arn't ready to do everything it takes to change something that they doesn't like - then it will not either change.
    Yes I know that people like that exist, people who doesn't feel ready to 'give it all'; but they arn't either the ones that I admire.


    In the situation with the little girl, I would have helped her and get sued for it. Though I said earlier that I would rather follow the law, rather than risk being thrown in jail, it depends on the situation. If it's over something stupid, I wouldn't waste my breath. For the little girl, I would have given it my best, life is precious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    If you don't like a law it's up to you to protest about it. Refusing to obey it is one way.
    It's up to you to try to change it.
    Now that is just purely idealistic. Go read up on China, maybe you'll see why it's near to impossible for people to change them. As for the 'trying' part, this is all theoretical. ~_~ Talk is cheap. And easy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reina View Post
    Now that is just purely idealistic. Go read up on China, maybe you'll see why it's near to impossible for people to change them. As for the 'trying' part, this is all theoretical. ~_~ Talk is cheap. And easy.
    With that attitue, then it sure won't change.

    I know some about China, but I still don't think that changing a system is impossible. Almost nothing is.
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    ^^^ Apparently you don't.. What are you 12? The world isn't all rainbows and sunshine kid. Never has been never will be.There are just some things people can't really change. Not like that.

    ----------@SuXrys why not? I dislike your ignorant views of the world being that easy to change when situations are in no instance to change as you describe. Your lack history of these places and what is real and what is make belief in your head are two totally different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    I know some about China, but I still don't think that changing a system is impossible. Almost nothing is. It all has to do with taking the leap from theoretical to practical.
    You're absolutely right. Nothing is impossible. However, to achieve the desired result, what are the sacrifices you're making in the process? It certainly is possible to overthrow the Communist Party's rule in China if ALL people rebelled, but countless people will die and get hurt. Would you be willing to die for a cause that you will not be able to see achieved (because you'll be dead)? Well, call me chicken if you want, but I, for one, certainly wouldn't.

    Sorry for the crude language here, but really, going from theories to actions is not as easy as it sounds. Moreover, you cannot simply jump to your desired conclusion while overlooking the process. In fact, the process is what matters the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    ^^^ Apparently you don't.. What are you 12? The world isn't all rainbows and sunshine kid. Never has been never will be.There are just some things people can't really change. Not like that.

    ----------@SuXrys why not? I dislike your ignorant views of the world being that easy to change when situations are in no instance to change as you describe. Your lack history of these places and what is real and what is make belief in your head are two totally different things.

    No, as you can see in my information im 22 / soon going on 23.

    What's so wrong with viewing the world in an non-negative way and think that almost anything is possible?
    I am not completely un-educated about the situation in china, even if it seems that you think that. The thing is that I don't think that anything is impossible. I have meet and have been working with too many people that has been threw to many of these horrible war situations [no details] and such that I refuse, to the depth of my soul and conscience
    , to belive that something is impossible - it talks against what I have seen with my own two eyes.

    I am full aware that the world isnt' all about rainbows, I know that it do lack it colours, but still I think that this viewing that you guys have is just so sad. It's like you don't want people to fight for their belifes [me reading between the lines] because "there is no point in it - it will not change anyway" and... I just can't stand viewings like that since they so much go against my feelings. If I actually would see the world like you guys do, then I would'nt consider writing myself up on the list of volunteers. But now I do, and Im glad of that fact.


    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    You're absolutely right. Nothing is impossible. However, to achieve the desired result, what are the sacrifices you're making in the process? It certainly is possible to overthrow the Communist Party's rule in China if ALL people rebelled, but countless people will die and get hurt. Would you be willing to die for a cause that you will not be able to see achieved (because you'll be dead)? Well, call me chicken if you want, but I, for one, certainly wouldn't.

    Sorry for the crude language here, but really, going from theories to actions is not as easy as it sounds. Moreover, you cannot simply jump to your desired conclusion while overlooking the process. In fact, the process is what matters the most.

    Depends on what that would be. But it's possible.
    I think no one can answer a situation like that until you actually stands in that 'now I will stand firm and die, or run'-situation. But I do now that people like that exsist, so the idea of changing a system isn't impossible - with or without your or mine help.


    I know that the process matters, I am heavely political active so Im all about long processes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    I think no one can answer a situation like that until you actually stands in that 'now I will stand firm and die, or run'-situation. But I do now that people like that exsist, so the idea of changing a system isn't impossible - with or without your or mine help.
    And I agree with you. I even said myself that "nothing is impossible". And true, there are people who are willing to die for a cause. However, this doesn't mean they will die in vain if no one around them is willing to help. If all Chinese people are willing to rebel and ready to die, then I'm sure something will change, but that's simply not the case. You saw from this video how apathetic they have become. If they're not even willing to help a dying girl on a peaceful street, do you expect them to help one another on the battlefield? Probably not...

    Again, I understand what you're saying, but China's situation is more complicated than it looks. For starters, it is a much larger country than Sweden, and big countries are harder to administrate. One look at the US government should give you an idea how dysfunctional big countries' governments can get. While China's government isn't "dysfunctional", a fundamental reform would take too much sacrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    And I agree with you. I even said myself that "nothing is impossible". And true, there are people who are willing to die for a cause. However, this doesn't mean they will die in vain if no one around them is willing to help. If all Chinese people are willing to rebel and ready to die, then I'm sure something will change, but that's simply not the case. You saw from this video how apathetic they have become. If they're not even willing to help a dying girl on a peaceful street, do you expect them to help one another on the battlefield? Probably not...

    Again, I understand what you're saying, but China's situation is more complicated than it looks. For starters, it is a much larger country than Sweden, and big countries are harder to administrate. One look at the US government should give you an idea how dysfunctional big countries' governments can get. While China's government isn't "dysfunctional", a fundamental reform would take too much sacrifice.
    It's easy for someone to become apathetic, that's the sad thing with the whole situation.

    It's just enough to look at some people that you meet on the streets, people without jobs, that has been threw things and such. No hope, no future, just sadness and no energy to do anything at all [they have becoming 'drained']. But then it's usually enough that just one stands there and gives them an helpning hand to bring them 'up' again. That's an example on why people are now focusing more and more on building things like wells and schools in Africa, instead of just focusing on sending in money like before [let them building up on their own, get them involved, instead of just going in digging around on your own for awhile and then leave again leavning them in the state they were in from the beginning]. People need to becoming involved, that's it. But getting to that point is difficult, but I am not saying anything else either. The process can take time, must certainly will take time... but impossible? No, not if you ask me. I can never claim anything like that.


    Just look at Libya, who is being discussed in another thread. Years ago I am sure people said that a revolution like that would never happened, but look where they are today.

    And also when talking about China, if they really would be completly drained of energy, left apathetic about situations like that little girls - then why has it started such a moral panic there right now? People havn't given up, not yet, not everyone.
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    blueangel and animeyay took the words right out of my mouth. All I can say is, go read up. Don't assume anything when you don't know...well, anything about the country and it's history.

    Also.

    ''With that attitue, then it sure won't change.

    I know some about China, but I still don't think that changing a system is impossible. Almost nothing is.
    It all has to do with taking the leap from theoretical to practical.''

    Are you gonna run over there and put your plan into action? Do you even have an action plan? No? Then don't talk so big if you're not gonna do anything about it. You have no idea how hard it's gonna be, that leap from theoretical to practical. What I said above.
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