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    Default Re: Do you feel bad for Gaddafi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Sena View Post
    I do. We should pray for not only Kadafi's soul, but also for the souls of those that personally murdered him. The Bible DOES say we must forgive our enemies and those rebels made the mistake of playing God and Jesus in ending the life and sending to hell one of God's creations that only our hevenly father can take the life of.
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    Default Re: Do you feel bad for Gaddafi?

    He was a bad man but I feel sorry about the way he died. It is not yet comfirmed but I betcha that he executed. Then the pictures of his smoked body all over the news and internet?
    Though, in a way, he deserved it.


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    Default Re: Do you feel bad for Gaddafi?

    I feel a little bad for him too but... he killed a lot of people. Libyans must be really happy right now though, cheers Libya! You all are finally free from this terror.

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    Default Re: Do you feel bad for Gaddafi?

    Well, they killed almost all his sons too. That is too much! Why they wish to wipe out his whole family in less than a few months?

    and people saying it was the "rebels" that killed him, but who supported those "rebels"? That's right, Britain/UN, and lets not forget Britainb has brutal history with colonialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mt774 View Post
    Well, they killed almost all his sons too. That is too much! Why they wish to wipe out his whole family in less than a few months?

    and people saying it was the "rebels" that killed him, but who supported those "rebels"? That's right, Britain/UN, and lets not forget Britainb has brutal history with colonialism.
    The bad apple doesnt fall far the bad tree.

    You seem to be under the idea that the UN constitutes only America and Britain, but its not. It involves EVERY COUNTRY of the world, and this time around, America and Britain (and Italy, France, among others) were given permission to help the rebels.

    It should also be worth remembering that this entire revolution was in no way a foreign thing, it was oppressed people rising against a tyrant, end of story.

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    I guess something that has united in it such as united nations must only be exclusive to united states and united kingdom. To some people :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serated View Post
    The bad apple doesnt fall far the bad tree.

    You seem to be under the idea that the UN constitutes only America and Britain, but its not. It involves EVERY COUNTRY of the world, and this time around, America and Britain (and Italy, France, among others) were given permission to help the rebels.

    It should also be worth remembering that this entire revolution was in no way a foreign thing, it was oppressed people rising against a tyrant, end of story.
    I know those other countries are involved too, but Britain and America are the 2 main countires that only most care about. It's the whole of the west, but the US and especially Britain have terrible histories of oppressing and bombing other countries and hypocriticaly foreign policy.

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    If i am wrong then, why so many call America and Britain imperialists for their actions in Iraq and the hated Bush administration. There must be a reason.

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    Hun... Even the americans hate the bush administration..And he isn't even around.-shrugs-

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    Default Re: Do you feel bad for Gaddafi?

    exactly, most hate Bush administration due to Iraq, and as we know, most include Libya war in discussions with Iraq war, so America is considered at fault for both as well as Britain and those others like France, Italy etc...

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    Default Re: Do you feel bad for Gaddafi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mt774 View Post
    I know those other countries are involved too, but Britain and America are the 2 main countires that only most care about. It's the whole of the west, but the US and especially Britain have terrible histories of oppressing and bombing other countries and hypocriticaly foreign policy.

    Still, as I mentioned before in post #9 people always complaints about America, all the time. If America steps in somewhere people complain, but if America wouldn't step in then people would still complain.

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    Default Re: Do you feel bad for Gaddafi?

    From studying history you will see that leaders who oppress their citizens will always crumble, leaders who accept and bend over to the citizenry will last for hundreds of years like the roman empire


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    Quote Originally Posted by mt774 View Post
    exactly, most hate Bush administration due to Iraq, and as we know, most include Libya war in discussions with Iraq war, so America is considered at fault for both as well as Britain and those others like France, Italy etc...
    Yeah, we, among others have a terrible track record with foreign policy. But, even though the people of Libya were being oppressed, America (or any country) shouldnt just rally some forces and invade the country to save the people. We've tried so many times before, and its never worked. For a country to change, the people must change.

    Its a very tricky line, foreign policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Bible says lots of things.

    Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed. -- Genesis 9:6
    That's the old testament, which is a bunch of Jewish theology shipped with the bible to form a necessary context in order to make any sense of the new testament (in which most actors subscribe to Judaism), which is the part that pertains to the christian religion.

    But don't feel bad. An alarming number of supposed christians make this mistake too.



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    I agree with Manhattan, I mean he was responsible for a lot of deaths so I really see no reason why his singular death is anything less than fair for the 200+ he took. The reason people think it's unfair that he died probably think that because you know a lot about him or could. If you were to know any one of the people who's death he was responsible for, I'm sure you would think quite differently. I'm not saying that I'm praising the fact that he died, I'm just saying I really see absolutely no reason why this should be seen as a bad thing, or feel like his death was undeserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aether View Post
    Hey I'm British and I say good riddance, one less conflict to focus on now as I'm sure the new governemnt can begin to stabalise itself and mop up the rest.
    All America and us Brits do was assist the rebels
    Did y'all help them rape also? lawl

    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Sena View Post
    I do. We should pray for not only Kadafi's soul, but also for the souls of those that personally murdered him. The Bible DOES say we must forgive our enemies and those rebels made the mistake of playing God and Jesus in ending the life and sending to hell one of God's creations that only our hevenly father can take the life of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Bible says lots of things.

    Whoso sheddeth man's and woman's blood, by man or woman shall his or her blood be shed. -- Genesis 9:6
    Thatwas in the old Testament; when Jesus came in the new testament, he said we should forgive our enemies and pray for the them, for the father rains on the just and the unjust.
    Also, God does not rejoice in the death of a sinner.

    I wonder...
    If one of Michelangelo's masterpieces were destroyed, would anyone celebrate?
    If one of the Great Pyramids collapsed, would someone celebrate?
    Yet when one of God's masterpieces -- his most cherished creations -- appears to collapse,
    would we celebrate it...in front of God?
    God has absolutely NO desire to see any of His children lost forever. The loss of a child is
    devastating -- ask any human parent who has lost their own!! The loss of a soul made in the
    image and likeness of God is a sad, mournful thing.

    Deliberate hatred is contrary to charity. Hatred of the person is a sin when one deliberately wishes
    him/her evil. Hatred of the person is a grave sin when one deliberately desires him/her grave harm. "But
    I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons and
    daughters of your Father who is in heaven."

    God created us in his image, well are you happy when you seek revenge on your own children?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mt774 View Post
    exactly, most hate Bush administration due to Iraq, and as we know, most include Libya war in discussions with Iraq war, so America is considered at fault for both as well as Britain and those others like France, Italy etc...
    If this is true, than most of the people you deal with are absolute idiots who should be forcibly neutered so they don't poison the gene pool.

    In Iraq, Bush accepted flimsy evidence as proof that Iraq was working on WMDs, and invaded a country based on it. As a result, it lead to the dethronement and eventual trial of the leader of said country, who if nothing else was a [jerk] of the first order.

    In Libya, Libyans didn't like their leader, who was a [jerk] of the first order and started protesting, emboldened by the success of Egypt protests. Gaddafi, being a [jerk], countered these protests with violence. The rebels had, and have, plenty of badly armed and trained militia, but they were getting slaughtered by the Libyan's army, which was fairly good by third world standards. Now the world had a choice, either sit on the sidelines and watch Gaddafi bomb his own people into the stone age rather then make some half-hearted concessions or do something. The UN then did something, because American explicitly refused to invade Libya on it's own, because it's something we shouldn't do. Not that many folks in the UN had objections when we announced we were invading Iraq. But I guess you'd be happier if we all just stayed in our own backyard and the first world watched Gaddafi kill hundreds of thousands of people to quell the rebellion while we sit around wearing monocles and eating caviar.

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    But don't feel bad. An alarming number of supposed christians make this mistake too.
    I'm working from the premises of others. Most Christians claim both books are both are equally relevant and non-contradictory, hence why they get a package deal. If you think you see a contradiction, it's clearly because your gray matter is too puny to see the forest for the trees.
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    the us had no ground troops in libya we just assisted the un in air strikes to soften up the gaddafi forces for the rebels but all and all us response to libya was very very small we as a country are too busy in afghanastan and iraq to get involved in libya's dispute
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    No, I don't feel sorry for the guy at all. If he had actually respected the people that he was "leader" of, he may have been seen as quirky and eccentric instead of a villain. Instead, he chose to authorize/ignore when all of the rape, murder, and pillaging was going on in the country. I do feel sorry for the people of Libya now as they have to pick up the pieces and try to form some sort of harmony. Ghaddafi the man may be dead, but his policies and ideas still live on in those who were on his side, much like what has been going on in Iraq and Afghanistan. It will not be easy and I wish them all the luck in the world.

    As for why his own fellow American's dislike Bush, that is a long list. Yes he pushed for a war using very little, if any, evidence, whatever his real reasons may have been... But he also had a big hand in screwing over the economy. He supported tax breaks that should been allowed to expire and pushed "No Child Left Behind". There is gobs of other things, but I don't feel like getting too riled up right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mt774 View Post
    exactly, most hate Bush administration due to Iraq, and as we know, most include Libya war in discussions with Iraq war, so America is considered at fault for both as well as Britain and those others like France, Italy etc...
    Considering the fact that you have honestly said some silly things in the past few days, I am really not inclined to take anything you say seriously (I start doing my Sarah Palin head tilt; I read your posts that somewhat make sense until they slowly dissolve into nonsense, causing my doggy head to tilt). I am starting to laugh at you just a little bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Sena View Post
    Thatwas in the old Testament; when Jesus came in the new testament, he said we should forgive our enemies and pray for the them, for the father rains on the just and the unjust.
    Also, God does not rejoice in the death of a sinner.
    Tone it down a bit. No offense to your religion (I'm religious too; I'm not Christian, but I am religious), but you are preaching a bit. And considering the fact that religion gets almost no respect here, I am going to end this argument.

    There is barely anything in the Bible that can't be contradicted elsewhere. Even things like abortion and divorce have mixed messages from the Bible. Needless to say, despite some of Jesus' pacifistic messages, Jesus does advocate violence at some points in the New Testament (Matthew 22: 12-13) and some little demons are surprised that they haven't been tortured by him yet, since he did it before (Matthew 18:29).

    You have valid religious views and we could argue about the Bible all day, blah blah blah, whatever. Now that that's over, we can get back to talking about Gaddafi, Gadhafi, Kaddafy, Kaddafi, however people are spelling it today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm a little girl View Post
    Did y'all help them rape also?
    Bah whats wrong with a little rape and pillage hmmm? Everyone does it


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    Quote Originally Posted by aether View Post
    Bah whats wrong with a little rape and pillage hmmm? Everyone does it

    Don't forget the burrrrn :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post

    Don't forget the burrrrn :]

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    Quote Originally Posted by aether View Post
    So what you go to a school teaching you on how to be a Viking?
    No.. It's just everyone always seemed to do that in history.. But yeah learned about them vikings too.

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