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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    If they are a guy, I'd like to ask him if he would like to go shopping sometime with me.

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleyna View Post
    If they are a guy, I'd like to ask him if he would like to go shopping sometime with me.
    A heterosexual man doesn't make the same notion possible?

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleyna View Post
    If they are a guy, I'd like to ask him if he would like to go shopping sometime with me.
    Cool stereotypes.

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Not a single Fu** was given.




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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ★ Tobifreed ★ View Post
    Not a single Fu** was given.
    Bingo: the right answer.

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuTama View Post
    Ever notice how in the Bible, the passage that claims that homosexuality is sinful is right next to the one that says eating shellfish is also an abomination?

    Oh religion, you so silly!
    Yeah... You're right... Life changes, time changes, people change too... Maybe it really is sinful, but people just can't help it, it was somehow God who made them like this. Especially bisexuals, a lot of specialists say that bisexuals are born naturally.

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    Probably... XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Phuah View Post
    a lot of specialists say that bisexuals are born naturally.
    Completely unrelated to the topic at hand but I must call BS. Homosexuality/Bisexuality is not something you're born with. Your sexual preference is a choice. The people you interact with or the society you are raised in may play a part in it, but in the end it is up to each individual to decide for themselves on their sexual preference.


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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Phuah View Post
    Especially bisexuals, a lot of specialists say that bisexuals are born naturally.
    All sexualities are natural; however I don't think it has been proven that people are born liking one sex over another/ both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Immoral View Post
    Completely unrelated to the topic at hand but I must call BS. Homosexuality/Bisexuality is not something you're born with. Your sexual preference is a choice. The people you interact with or the society you are raised in may play a part in it, but in the end it is up to each individual to decide for themselves on their sexual preference.
    Excuse me, I didn't choose to find men attractive, I just do. You might as well say people have a choice about liking brussel sprouts.
    Last edited by Anoleis; 09-04-2011 at 02:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
    Excuse me, I didn't choose to find men attractive, I just do. You might as well say people have a choice about liking brussel sprouts.
    Consciously or subconsciously it is what you chose. It's a matter of nurturing; study sociology. I'd rather not go further off topic here. Feel free to PM me if you would like to debate this matter further.

    Oh, and your comparison to liking brussel sprouts is rediculous. With any food you can acquire the taste for them later in life or lose the taste for them.


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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Aside from the gibberish above me, I'd probably buy them an ice cream cone and play a game of basketball with them.

    What you do with you body is none of my business unless it is birthing children you won't take care of. Homosexuality is a kind of ironic solution to the immorality of having children prematurely from my perspective.

    Acceptance of a person's homosexuality is the right answer (unless its self-destructive sexual deviation, which is much different than preferring one gender over another or being non-gender specific).

    The person who chooses homosexuality or bisexuality may notice in someone expressing acceptance that someone who can accept such a foreign thing to them must be knowledgeable, because to be knowledgeable (in this case) is to accept something for what it is indefinitely. Now, I'm not saying the smartest person to walk this Earth would agree or disagree with homosexuality or bisexuality, but the person who chooses one of the two paths would categorize the one who accepts their decisions as worldly because the two agree with each other.

    The problem with objecting to a person's decision for homosexuality or bisexuality when it is not the effect of self-destructive behavior is that I may have my opinions and stance against homosexuality, but should I only hold them for myself because expressing them serves no substantial purpose to anyone's conscious well-being. Even if there were psychological implications of homosexuality from a subconscious level (as a Biblical reference: "porneia", which one may 'succumb' to), such shrouded activity would be undetectable to the reactive persona and the only possible result of anything I could possibly say would be rejection. To religion: That means you would actually deter people from your churches instead of enticing them if you got upset about their being homosexual or bisexual.

    And while homosexuality and bisexuality is intrinsic to variants of self-destructive behavior (just as heterosexual intercourse can be), those who are making the decision to be either bisexual or homosexual and are even remotely healthy-minded should not be subject to criticism for the above reasons. And even so, those who are suffering from their acts the stemmed from self-destructive behavior should not be criticized either, actually; unstable or damaged psyches can adversely react to negative stimulants in their environments (and good intentions can be twisted into bad ones from the perspective of an unhealthy mind).

    So at the end of the day, offering acceptance of the person's decision and sometimes offering an ear to lend in the future as needed if the person shows signs of unsureness or hasty decision-making regarding their sexual orientation.

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Immoral View Post
    Completely unrelated to the topic at hand but I must call BS. Homosexuality/Bisexuality is not something you're born with. Your sexual preference is a choice. The people you interact with or the society you are raised in may play a part in it, but in the end it is up to each individual to decide for themselves on their sexual preference.
    I must say that some are to the fact natural born. But some are influenced. Not all is the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
    All sexualities are natural; however I don't think it has been proven that people are born liking one sex over another/ both.
    Not all. Some are natural born, when some are influenced. Haha... I don't think so too. But this world is a weird place, anything like that can happpen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skillero View Post
    Aside from the gibberish above me, I'd probably buy them an ice cream cone and play a game of basketball with them.
    Well, I would like to say thanks for such a logical answer. Well, I'm not dumb, but I don't really understand the whole thing, if you wouldn't mind just simplify a little ? You're right, it's their path, their way, if they choose, they have to bare with it.

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    I don't care, I give them a hug for being true and not lie to themselves. <3

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    My best friend is gay, nothing changed when i found out, it was just "Ohh you're gay,... alright that's fine, it doesn't change anything."

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Of course! If I had a friend who later turned gay, I'd shun him FOREVER!
    Same thing goes if I had a gay friend who later turned hetero!


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    ... not nice

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Yep, I'm a big meanie with everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seung-li View Post
    I don't care, I give them a hug for being true and not lie to themselves. <3
    Are you implying that anyone who isn't a homo is lying to themselves and those who choose to pass to homosex are not lying to themselves about it anymore?


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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    FYI its not "are you gay" its "to what extent are you gay" -referencing Ron White

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Immoral View Post
    Completely unrelated to the topic at hand but I must call BS. Homosexuality/Bisexuality is not something you're born with. Your sexual preference is a choice. The people you interact with or the society you are raised in may play a part in it, but in the end it is up to each individual to decide for themselves on their sexual preference.
    general scientific consensus on the issue is that the 'born with/learned' debate is a false dichotomy, and that likely a combination of genetics, prenatal hormones, social upbringing and societal acceptance are all valid causation agents.

    likewise, on one side of my family, the majority of family members are homosexual, and on the other side, bisexual- none of whom I've ever met or had contact with.

    so, yes, to say there is no genetic component to sexual orientation, I would well beg to differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Phuah View Post
    I must say that some are to the fact natural born. But some are influenced. Not all is the same.
    Oh come on.. You may as well say some people are born as child rapists. They don't choose to find themselves attracted to children. Same difference. Every human has thousands of choices to make during their lifetime. Sexual preference is just one of them.

    Again, I would not condemn a friend that I later find out to be a homosexual. I don't agree with their choice, but it is a choice anyone is free to make.
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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    @Immoral

    k, since you seem to have completely ignored my post, perhaps the American Psychological Association can shed some light for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by APA
    What causes a person to have a particular sexual orientation?

    There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.
    http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

    the notion that people just wake up one day and go "oh, I'm going to be a homosexual now" is just garbage really.

    You are quite right though that people do have a choice. people have a choice in that they can lie about who they are, have failed relationships, marry someone they don't really love, be miserable and alone their whole life, and succumb to stigma all so that people will see them as "normal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immoral View Post
    Oh come on.. You may as well say some people are born as child rapists. They don't choose to find themselves attracted to children.
    Of course they don't choose to find themselves attracted to children. You can't possibly be suggesting that they could just wake up one day and abruptly say "Okay! From today, I'm choosing to be a pedophile!" The same goes for homosexuality. They can certainly choose to suppress their attraction to members of the same sex, but that doesn't mean they are not attracted to members of the same sex.

    I'm not saying I know exactly how this works, but I do know for a fact, after having made gay, bi, and trans friends, that all of them didn't consciously choose to be the way they are. Sure, in addition to genetics, environment may have had some influence, (and in some cases a huge impact), but neither genetics nor influence from the environment is one's choice.

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    I wouldn't mind, I'm a very open minded person. And seeing as i'm bisexual, it would be hypocritical to judge them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immoral View Post
    Consciously or subconsciously it is what you chose. It's a matter of nurturing; study sociology.
    Nurturing, you say? I was practically raised by my homosexual brother; I'm quite sure I'm straight, thank you. And as a matter of fact, one of my best friends is gay, and he was raised in a very strict Mormon household. I don't think 'nurturing' or 'upbringing' would be the correct terms to use when determining why people turn out homosexual or heterosexual. I actually plan to study Sociology in the next couple of semesters, so I'll see what that says about it.

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    Default Re: What If You Found Out Your Friend Was A Homosexual ?

    I guess I wouldn't care............
    They chose and THEY will live with it
    So and doesn't have all that much to do with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericgamer1 View Post
    @Immoral

    the notion that people just wake up one day and go "oh, I'm going to be a homosexual now" is just garbage really.

    You are quite right though that people do have a choice. people have a choice in that they can lie about who they are, have failed relationships, marry someone they don't really love, be miserable and alone their whole life, and succumb to stigma all so that people will see them as "normal".
    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    Of course they don't choose to find themselves attracted to children. You can't possibly be suggesting that they could just wake up one day and abruptly say "Okay! From today, I'm choosing to be a pedophile!" The same goes for homosexuality. They can certainly choose to suppress their attraction to members of the same sex, but that doesn't mean they are not attracted to members of the same sex.
    I never said they wake up one day and decide to be a homosexual. It is everything they experience in life that leads up to it. Be it because they experimented and liked it or because of other events in their life. There is a reason behind everything. Just because some don't know the reason means nothing. Again, it can be a conscious or subconscious decision.
    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    I'm not saying I know exactly how this works, but I do know for a fact, after having made gay, bi, and trans friends, that all of them didn't consciously choose to be the way they are.
    I've already covered this. Pay attention. SUBCONSCIOUS

    I've make quite a few gay and bi friends myself. You assume I haven't?
    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    Sure, in addition to genetics, environment may have had some influence, (and in some cases a huge impact), but neither genetics nor influence from the environment is one's choice.
    Though it is not our choice the way we are brought up or what we are brought up around, we DO have a choice on how we let it influence us.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuTama View Post
    Nurturing, you say? I was practically raised by my homosexual brother; I'm quite sure I'm straight, thank you. And as a matter of fact, one of my best friends is gay, and he was raised in a very strict Mormon household. I don't think 'nurturing' or 'upbringing' would be the correct terms to use when determining why people turn out homosexual or heterosexual. I actually plan to study Sociology in the next couple of semesters, so I'll see what that says about it.
    I never said people will automatically grow up and act as those that surround them. It can actually be the opposite. It goes both ways.


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