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    Default Do congressmen need a raise?

    Just read this article and gotta say, I laughed. They're complaining how they're struggling to pay bills and not to mention one was quoted" as saying, "This job don't mean that much to me. I had a good life in Panama City.". Mean while they seek to cut our benefits and raise our taxes while giving benefits and tax breaks to the rich. Doesn't really sound like the type of people who should get a raise. But if they decide to do something about it there's nothing we can do.

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    Default Re: Do congressmen need a raise?

    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    But if they decide to do something about it there's nothing we can do.
    Congress is democratically elected. It is your duty to keep them in check.

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    Default Re: Do congressmen need a raise?


    No congressman needs a raise.

    Absurd!


    If anyone needs a raise regards of money, it's the little people.


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    Default Re: Do congressmen need a raise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    No.



    Congress is democratically elected. It is your duty to keep them in check.
    Yeah, that works out well when they don't even listen to us once they achieve office and you find out everything they said during campaigning was a lie.

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    Default Re: Do congressmen need a raise?

    Do I think they need MORE money? no

    Do I think the money they do make is justified? yes.

    you have to remember that there's only 538 members of congress at any one given time, which is .000001793% of the population. It makes sense that you'd want to pay someone with the skills and abilities necessary that only a small fraction of the population are capable of carrying out.

     
    whether or not all the people elected possess those needed skills is another subject of debate, however.

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    Struggling to pay the bills? Maybe they shouldn't live such expensive lifestyles. Greed leads those who let it.


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    Default Re: Do congressmen need a raise?

    NO, NO, and NO!
    If they are having trouble paying their bills with salary 3 to 4 times as high as mine, then our country has become hopeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    NO, NO, and NO!
    If they are having trouble paying their bills with salary 3 to 4 times as high as mine, then our country has become hopeless.
    Not to mention many actually take home millions each year from bribes and the like. So if they can't pay bills with a million dollars then they have series issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Not to mention many actually take home millions each year from bribes and the like. So if they can't pay bills with a million dollars then they have series issues.
    We all know very well "having trouble paying bills" is just a pathetic excuse.
    They are all just being moneygrubbing scrooges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericgamer1 View Post

    Do I think the money they do make is justified? yes.

     
    whether or not all the people elected possess those needed skills is another subject of debate, however.
    It is a difference between being justified paid for your skills: and being overpaid...

    What they have now is one the fine line for me, but giving them more is as much madness as the epic "this is madness" scene in 300.


     





    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    NO, NO, and NO!
    If they are having trouble paying their bills with salary 3 to 4 times as high as mine, then our country has become hopeless.
    *thums up*

    We have a saying in my country, I don't know if you guys have a similar one but (translated) it goes something like this: "Feed the mouth after the packed lunch". To say: don't get a lifestyle and habbits that you can't afford. If they really can't pay their bills with that salary, then maybe they should think more about their budget and less about unnecessary spending that they (even with that money) can't afford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    We have a saying in my country, I don't know if you guys have a similar one but (translated) it goes something like this: "Feed the mouth after the packed lunch". To say: don't get a lifestyle and habbits that you can't afford. If they really can't pay their bills with that salary, then maybe they should think more about their budget and less about unnecessary spending that they (even with that money) can't afford.
    I guess something on the line of "don't bite off more than you can chew"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animeyay View Post
    I guess something on the line of "don't bite off more than you can chew"?
    Yeah that sounds about right!

    Thank you!
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    Default Re: Do congressmen need a raise?

    Emphatic No!!! We have national debt problems that are threatening to deprive soldiers of some or all their pay, cripple social security worse than it is, and take away money from education and starving kids. If anyone needs to get a pay decrease, it's congress.
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    Personally, they should abolish social security and let people invest that money elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Personally, they should abolish social security and let people invest that money elsewhere.
    such as..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericgamer1 View Post
    such as..?
    Anything is better then what's being done with it now. It's not being used for its intended purpose. People should be allowed to invest that money how they want and not have to worry about the government taking money out of it for their projects and cutting it so in essence they're stealing money from you. The idea behind it was that money goes in and when you retire you get that back. While that still happens you don't get 100% of it back and has, in essence, just become a disguised tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Anything is better then what's being done with it now. It's not being used for its intended purpose. People should be allowed to invest that money how they want and not have to worry about the government taking money out of it for their projects and cutting it so in essence they're stealing money from you. The idea behind it was that money goes in and when you retire you get that back. While that still happens you don't get 100% of it back and has, in essence, just become a disguised tax.
    that's caused by misappropriation of funds, not the program in and of it's self.

    This is a common strawman tactic people use to point out flaws in government programs in an attempt to get rid of them as the source of a problem rather than adressing the fact that the flaws are more often than not simply symptoms of a larger issue. (ie, more money is being spent than is being taken in)

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    Default Re: Do congressmen need a raise?

    I know they're not in Congress, but my mind instantly jumped to Mitt Romney's and Rick Perry's huge as hell mansions.

    So no.

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    "...He added that 'if you took the hours that I work and divided it into my pay,' the $174,000 salary would not seem so high."

    well let's see...
    minimum wage right now is $7.35/hr
    174000/7.35=23673
    23673/12=1972
    1972/4=493

    so, someone making minimum wage (which is supposed to be enough to live on) would have to work 493 hours per week to make $174k per year.
    yeah, i'm sure he probably puts in close to that many hours *rolls eyes*

    he also said 'And by the way, did I mention? They're shooting at us. There is law-enforcement security in this room right now, and why is that?"

    well congressmen, let me explain to you why that is.
    when the average american makes 50k per year, and you say stuff to them like "175k per year isn't enough for me".......that causes the average american to what to shoot you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericgamer1 View Post
    that's caused by misappropriation of funds, not the program in and of it's self.

    This is a common strawman tactic people use to point out flaws in government programs in an attempt to get rid of them as the source of a problem rather than adressing the fact that the flaws are more often than not simply symptoms of a larger issue. (ie, more money is being spent than is being taken in)
    It's the government that's abusing it. Do you think they'll stop taking money out of it? No, so why not simply remove it so they can't just steal from the tax payers. It's a great program if it's not abused but it is and as such should be removed. Let the tax payers decide how their money is saved for retirement. Such as bonds, gold, etc. That way there's one less way for the government to screw them over.

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    I'd say HELL NO! If a congressman is gonna complain about their pay, then they shouldn't be spending cash on fancy stuff like golden commodes, Beamers, and trying to live a lifestyle they can't pay for. They get paid a good grip of cash, so i suggest them to sit your uppity booty down and shut yo mouth.
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    If they can buy glamorous cars and expensive clothes, then I'd say no. I don't think they need a raise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Yeah, that works out well when they don't even listen to us once they achieve office and you find out everything they said during campaigning was a lie.
    Democracy isn't something that someone else does for you. It's something you and everyone else have to actively make happen, by voting (and not just selecting a president and shrugging when it comes to the rest), and talking about issues (which is different from letting people on TV talk about them for you).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Democracy isn't something that someone else does for you. It's something you and everyone else have to actively make happen, by voting (and not just selecting a president and shrugging when it comes to the rest), and talking about issues (which is different from letting people on TV talk about them for you).
    Yes, which is why I tend to look at third party candidates. But those never get elected. I can only hope the Internet has some effect on how campaigns are run in the future. And I don't mean websites, but places like YouTube for campaign videos. That way it's not a matter who has the most money or who the media chooses to focus on but the actual person who's running.

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    Uhhhhh, NO! If they want a bigger pay get a real job. XD

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