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    Default Are books finally outdated?

    I've recently seen tablet PCs and Kindles everywhere. It's almost like I'm the only one who routinely carries at least one hardcover around with me. What do you prefer to read with?



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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    outdated? probably

    but there's still something about hardbacks that I think will always be around just because they have that certain kind of nuance.

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    If we're smart, they'll never be deemed outdated. Electronics fail. Anything electronic will fail given time. Once they do what's on them is lost forever. Books wont. Only way they can lose what's on them is if it's destroyed. So books should never be considered outdated. All records should have some booked version.

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    I'd prefer reading paperback and hardcover. Don't particularly like reading books or even mangas online or on electronics like the kindle. Plus, electronics/internet can't produce that nice book smell when you open the book. Also you don't get adverts in your book, that luminous light glaring at your face, and ,to me, it feels authentic or more real. I can't really explain it.

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    In my case yes, though in other people's opinions probably not. The only time I ever read books was when I was forced to in school. Does that make me reach the level of moron? Nah, I still feel actually smart even though the last book I read on my own was about 2001.

    I've always liked hard covers better though.
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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    i work in a bookshop so no

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    I always considered books to be outdated as a form of the sit and relax entertainment since almost everyone I met hasn't read a book unless forced when they went to school.
    But as a way to read, I think books can still match the popularity of ebooks and tablets since like most posters above said, there is a feeling in reading a hardcover that can't be compared to the digital version. Also, you don't have to worry about battery (I always lose track of time when reading) and the glare from the sun when reading outside.
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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    I like adapting to new things, e-readers can carry multiple books instead of just one plus they're fun, I have one even thought I NEVER read books.
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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    Nah, I prefernbooks unless they're expensive. Also, I mistook kindle for kindling xD

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    I was thinking of buying an Amazon Kindle to get my text books instead of spending $200 or more on books every semester. Didn't happen; the only book I could find was $20 more than the hard-copy. I would definitely be open to "upgrading" to an electronic reading device, but it's just not worth it right now. However, I have seriously been considering buying A Dance with Dragons on iTunes. $35 for a 3 day read is really not worth it.

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    In my opinion: No. My only thing is if there's a power outage, you'll only be able to use it for a limited amount of time. Plus i loose track of time reading, so i don't think a Kindle would be good for me. Even though i have a few gigabyte's of books/comics/manga on my laptop and my flashdrive, i'd rather much have some hardcover or paperback books lying around. Like what's been said already, something about actually holding that book in your hands seems so much better than reading on a screen.
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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    I prefer to read with hardcover books, but I read paperback books as well. I also always have at least one paperback or hardcover on me whenever I'm out.
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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    i dont think so , but then again i still support books. i like paperbacks.



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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    If we're smart, they'll never be deemed outdated. Electronics fail. Anything electronic will fail given time. Once they do what's on them is lost forever. Books wont. Only way they can lose what's on them is if it's destroyed. So books should never be considered outdated. All records should have some booked version.
    Books have a fairly short half life of a hundred or so years, assuming books not built of cheap fiber like most paperbacks and you don't go to heroic lengths to preserve them. The internet hypothetically has an infinite lifespan, assuming there are always people around to service/replace the machines that it runs on and someone always cares enough to mirror the books.

    Most of the reading I do now-a-days is on my Sony Reader, it's got a great battery life and I can keep various books on hand in case I finish one with out hauling a ton of paper.
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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    Nope. never. i wouold prefer a hardcover over some electronic book any day. as Gamegeeks said "Electronics fail. Anything electronic will fail given time. "

    I completely agree with this.

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    Old fashioned perhaps, but I wouldn't say they're obsolete quite yet. I love e-books and online reading. The ease of use, sharing and convenience is just too much to deny, especially to a student. Sitting down and actually sharing a couple of hours with a nice hard cover book is an entirely different experience for me though. It's getting really difficult lately to find anyone around me that reads for enjoyment, regardless of the medium. If we are talking reading for pleasure, I prefer hard cover/paperback copies.

    I was actually able to pick up a half dozen hard cover sci-fi novels last week for next to nothing...at a Borders "Going out of business" sale. Bitter-sweet.

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Books have a fairly short half life of a hundred or so years, assuming books not built of cheap fiber like most paperbacks and you don't go to heroic lengths to preserve them. The internet hypothetically has an infinite lifespan, assuming there are always people around to service/replace the machines that it runs on and someone always cares enough to mirror the books.

    Most of the reading I do now-a-days is on my Sony Reader, it's got a great battery life and I can keep various books on hand in case I finish one with out hauling a ton of paper.
    That's if you use paper. We have the ability to make a material similar to paper that could age quite well. Though it could also end up being bacteria is the long term solution.

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    Books are definitely not outdated yet.
    However, I personally prefer to read on the internet.

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    Default Re: Are books finally outdated?

    I still use books.
    Hardback and paper back. I just like the feeling of caring a book around with me. Also I love to collect them, we have a sort or a library in my sisters room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    That's if you use paper. We have the ability to make a material similar to paper that could age quite well. Though it could also end up being bacteria is the long term solution.

    http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...rce=rss_news50
    There are plenty of materials you can suggest other then paper, the problem is that people would still complain that X doesn't look/smell/feel like paper. And every solution that I've heard other then using the replaceable, decentralized internetospheres and cheap, portable playback devices is still either too expensive (engrave everything in precious metal of choice like on the Voyager) and/or has massive scaling issues like, for example, Library of Congress sized Bacteria Farms.
    Ehhh, I dunno if I'll stick around. We'll see.

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    It's true that I use ebooks more often than traditional books. But i still prefer traditional ones it's more relaxing and there's something about it that makes it more special. Thing is though ebooks are cheap and easy to get. Much easier than going to the bookstore to buy or going to the library to borrow. Besides, if I have a copy of all the books I've read, my room would have been swamped by now.

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    I do read ebooks.. sometimes...
    but most of the time...
    it's books... BOOKS and books...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Books have a fairly short half life of a hundred or so years, assuming books not built of cheap fiber like most paperbacks and you don't go to heroic lengths to preserve them.
    I have a 105 year old, German, Greek and Roman Mythology book. I've yet to have a flash drive that lasted more than 5 years.

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    @Manhattan_Project_2000 Yes you would. I'd be one of those people with random novels I read. But for long term people shouldn't use that as an excuse since it's not like they'd be reading the records for pleasure. It's more storing knowledge for the future. I'm more thinking synthetic materials then precious metals which would, as you said, be too expensive. And as for bacteria, depends how much they can put on one bacteria. could end up filling a box, but there's no way to know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
    I have a 105 year old, German, Greek and Roman Mythology book. I've yet to have a flash drive that lasted more than 5 years.
    It's called back up. You can easily copy text files from one storage device to another, because the more copies you have the less of a chance you have of losing everything. It's a common practice for preserving data.

    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Yes you would. I'd be one of those people with random novels I read. But for long term people shouldn't use that as an excuse since it's not like they'd be reading the records for pleasure. It's more storing knowledge for the future. I'm more thinking synthetic materials then precious metals which would, as you said, be too expensive. And as for bacteria, depends how much they can put on one bacteria. could end up filling a box, but there's no way to know for sure.
    While I'm not a biology major, I do know that bacteria need nutrients, water, heat control, and a sterile environment. You'd also have to hope for no mutations that would effect the plain-text and you'd have to keep them sorted from one another for identification. Sequencing the DNA every time you need to Read/Write is really the deal breaker, though. This sounds like one of those technologies that has almost no practical applications (except maybe as foot notes to help other gene sequencers on created/altered life forms, or perhaps to inform you that Pfizer owns it).

    Well, even if you print it out on some affordable teflonesque paper that lasted for thousands of years you would still run into a number of problems that the internetosphere would never run into.

    1) Storing information in matter is awkward. If you like accessibly, it's hard to be less accessible then keeping a bunch of words written in readable size in one (or more) place(s). You keep it online, and everyone can access it pretty quickly.

    2) The internet is decentralized, meaning that if you damage a node (say, meteor falls on Washington DC) the system continues (although it loses all connections to that node). Librarys/Book Repository, on the other hand, reacts poorly to meteors and other natural/human disasters. As long as you have copies on different nodes, little other then planetary destruction has a chance of wiping them all out in one fell swoop. Meteor falls on the Library of Congress and a lot of rare and unique books go up in flames.

    3) Assuming current American English is not the dominant language of the far-future like in the majority of Science Fiction, it's probably easier to use Far-Future Babel Fish to translate from dead languages like 2000s English to whatever the hell they are speaking.

    4) Storage space. Look at the hard disk. Now look at the library. Which do you think is more efficient for storing Data in a real estate sense? Take a 500 gb hard drive (then remember that 500gb≈465 real gb), now take a bunch of 500 kb books (about 85 thousand words) and put them on there. Congratulations, you have 930,000 books (assuming my math is correct, it's late). The longer mankind continues the more space we'd need for storage of writing, and digital storage is more futureproof then analog.
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