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    Default Violent riots brake out in London

    London (CNN) -- Rioters took advantage of a vigil for a man killed by police and turned violent Saturday night, tossing petrol bombs and "missiles" at officers and looting stores, London's Metropolitan Police said Sunday.
    "The behavior by a criminal minority put police officers, fire brigade personnel and the public at significant risk," Cmdr. Adrian Hanstock said in a statement.
    At least 42 people were arrested and 26 officers were injured, police said.
    The violence came amid protests over the killing of Mark Duggan, who was riding in a cab when he was killed Thursday. Police stopped the cab in an attempted arrest, and soon shots were fired, the Independent Police Complaints Commission said.
    The commission did not say who shot the 29-year-old, nor why the cab was stopped.
    "The death of Mr. Duggan is extremely regrettable," Hanstock said. "It is absolutely tragic that someone has died, but that does not give a criminal minority the right to destroy businesses" and "steal from their local community."
    Demonstrators Saturday night burned police cars, a bus and buildings to protest Duggan's death. They pelted officers with bottles and bricks as police in riot gear charged at the crowd and blocked off streets.
    A double-decker bus and some buildings were also set ablaze, sending bright orange flames shooting into the night sky.
    "The rioting in Tottenham last night was utterly unacceptable," Downing Street Sunday. "There is no justification for the aggression the police and the public faced, or for the damage to property."
    The protests started peacefully Saturday night when about 30 friends and relatives of the victim gathered outside Tottenham police station to protest the fatal shooting.
    full article: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe...ots/index.html

    details are still coming out, and I'm not sure what it was they were protesting exactly.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    Yh i come from eastLondon it was all over the news.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    "Yeah we hate the police so much that we are going to completely justify their existence!"

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    *break

    In other news, I can guarantee that every single one of the 'criminal minority' are chavs, and who just used the protest as an excuse to loot trainers and tracksuits from department stores.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    *break

    In other news, I can guarantee that every single one of the 'criminal minority' are chavs, and who just used the protest as an excuse to loot trainers and tracksuits from department stores.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    Nice to hear, but unless some cops die, then I don't believe they have fulfiled their duties as authoritary figures.


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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    The rioting has been going on for 3 nights now, and now it's Croydon's turn... :/

    We may well find out just how large the London police force is if the violence escalates further... but their performance thus far has been embarrassing to say the least.

    Still... to express my personal opinion of this situation, and as a message to those hypocritical hooligans smart enough to read the following: there's absolutely no justification for looting (especially in one's local area) or terrorism. I was brought up in one of the most deprived areas in the UK. I'm mixed race; my parents' parents we're immigrants and were treated with hostility and suspicion when they first moved to the UK. Nonetheless, we worked our way up the social ladder, and we achieved that through lawful means, not pointless chaos. The class system we have is the UK is not fair, granted - and yes, your local area has been neglected (like ours was) more than most. But please don't use this as an excuse to do what is easier for you. Rise above it like we did. And for ****'s sake, grow up!

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    I'm worried rioting mght start in my town.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    Right I'm going to harp in seriously now (yes you cretin's should be shocked).

    This whole situation involving Mark Duggan has just been a excuse for the huge powder keg that has been Britain over the last 3 years to explode into criminality and violence. . The Birmingham Police stated it perfectly "This is not a riot of anger, This is a riot of greed". This is young mostly black youngsters in gangs jumping on the bandwagon of a fairly peaceful protest in Tottenham, looting and thieving whatever they can get their grubby little mits on.

    This has really gone to show how disenfranchised majority if the youth ("the Jeremy Kyle generation") of today are with the economical and social framework of Britain, and to be frank they have a point but jumping on this "police are bad ehehe" bandwagon has just proven they are moronic dicks.

    This being said not all the youth of Britain are degenerate's, the overwhelming slew of young volunteers cleaning the mess up rallied by social; networks is an outstanding display of hope for this generation.

    Now onto the police situation, it a case of "damned if you do and damned if you don't", if they use more brutal force such as plastic bullets and water canons, these rioters will either claim "Police Brutality" and "OUR EU HUMAN RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED!". However if they stand off while being extremely outnumbered is being criticized as being too namby pamby and soft. this is the sad state our policing is in.

    My personal opinion is that the British Army should be called in under police control for more man power, and they should be allowed the use a lot more force, such as the above mention water cannons and plastic bullets (which the police have readily available).

    Now I have had reports that riots are planned tonight for places like Oxford, Birmingham, London, Cambridge, Leeds and my home town of Ipswich. I can't see an end to this senseless violence and thieving until the police are permitted to use more force.


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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    I just had talks with some people I know down in London; this is what one of them posted on a forum this morning:

    I saw some of the rioting upfront and literally standing right next to it in Croydon and other places and all I have to say is lul...

    There was a funny sense of unity at times and I know people who got BAREEEEEE stuff....it was jokes cos you just saw people literally walking down the road with a shopping cart and some 48 HD TV in it and people carrying that stuff in there hands and walking causally down the road. And there were broken TV's on the floor....people getting Ipad 2's, Terabytes Harddrvies...if it was valuable it got stolen

    A Huge PC World got nicely violated and there stock room raided

    And loads of people were out there house just looking but no-one can do anything....some places literally got TORE up and rinsed out soooo hard, people were taking stuff they didn't even want or need but just to get something valuable

    The police couldn't do anything, they weren't even in some of the areas which were getting raided and they were SEVERELYYYYY out numbered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatty. View Post
    My personal opinion is that the British Army should be called in under police control for more man power, and they should be allowed the use a lot more force, such as the above mention water cannons and plastic bullets (which the police have readily available).
    You don't want the military to handle angry mobs (they have all the wrong training). As history has shown time and time again, that's the sort of thing that ends in a bloody massacre with almost guaranteed collateral damage, which would just fuel more rioting.

    But it's a delicate balance, and I'm not entirely sure what is the ideal solution. A curfew in the affected areas would possibly be a good idea. That way they could simply arrest anyone who is outdoors and not need to worry about whether they're on their way to riot or not.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    As I said the Army should be under Police Control. To be fair I don't see a bunch of faggoty chav's looting value basmati rice from Tesco when there is a Tank Turret aimed at there head.


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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    Quote Originally Posted by Tatty. View Post
    As I said the Army should be under Police Control.
    Won't do a bit of difference. Army folks are trained to kill, and an angry mob throwing fire bombs at you is the sort of thing that provokes instinctive reactions rather than rational and well calculated actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tatty. View Post
    To be fair I don't see a bunch of faggoty chav's looting value basmati rice from Tesco when there is a Tank Turret aimed at there head.
    You don't understand angry mob mentality, that would likely just make them angrier. To the point the tank starts firing at them. But then we're back at massive collateral damage again.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    Ermmm hate to say this but it ain't just localised in London. I should know as I live in the U.K and the riots are essentially all over the damned place.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    My hope is that sending the Army in will send the fear of god into them seeing as they don't consider the police a threat at all.


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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    Well some people are saying that Martial law is going to be introduced for awhile or at least a cerfew system

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    What do these hooligans hope to gain from destroying people's properties and terrorising the locals other than fame in their little sub-culture? I think that these hooligans need to be severely punished as they are not only committing/participating in riots and terrorism they are also setting a bad impression on London and perhaps England. Hopeful, if they are severely punished, it will set an example to the rest and killing of the need for rioting, well at least for the time being.

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    I don't understand why there's ALWAYS a riot in London?
    Seriously, everyday when I read the news it's about London riots.

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    damn these politicians they're debating in parliament when they should be sending the army in to help the police

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    Ahh, London. City of history and etiquette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aether View Post
    damn these politicians they're debating in parliament when they should be sending the army in to help the police
    What they should be doing is shutting down social networks in the London or England in general. As its speeding and widening up the process of these riots. Then bring in the army/police force to deal with the rioters in isolated areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ensifer View Post
    What they should be doing is shutting down social networks in the London or England in general. As its speeding and widening up the process of these riots. Then bring in the army/police force to deal with the rioters in isolated areas.
    Nahh we just need the army to start martial law and introduce checkpoints to stop people from forming a group to start a riot in the first place

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    Quote Originally Posted by aether View Post
    Nahh we just need the army to start martial law and introduce checkpoints to stop people from forming a group to start a riot in the first place
    Even if we didn't use martial law, didn't you think that the police should of introduce checkpoints? Its about time the police should be taking more of an active role than forming lines etc. Even so the rioters will still use social networks to organise their attacks.

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    Default Re: Violent riots brake out in London

    The main problem in this country is civil rights. Police can't enforce the laws to their fullest power because someone will claim they were denied their rights and sue even though they caused murder or something. I hate to say this but we need a reduction of rights in order to re-gain the country back

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