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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    Giving the kid certain names might LITERALLY keep them from getting a job later in life (not just bullied) because nobody would hire someone with that name. The parent will not lose out, but their kid WILL. As such, giving the kid very certain specific names that could really hinder their progress in life should be covered by child abuse laws. For example, of someone named their kid Molester, then he will not get jobs in any place that is within 100 feet of a school or other place where many kids are present. Yes the kid later on can legally get his name changed, but I have a feeling that by then A LOT of damage may have already been done, possibly leading to depression and even suicide for being shunned as an outcast (making the parents responsible for their child's death).

    I think it would be fine to name your kid most of the possible unusual names Wysiwyg (pronounced wiz ee wig), or oyunqt4879t9enymtuh (not sure how to pronounce), Goomba, La La Land, or any other thing you can think of. However certain names should be banned for the VERY REAL AND SIGNIFICANT chance that it will harm the kid's reputation for the rest of their life. These would include names for the devil such as Satan, Devil, Lucifer, Beelzebub; or names of heinous criminal types such as Murderer, Rapist, Arsonist, Molester or even of crime names such as Murder or Rape. But that is only for the worst possible names. 99.99999% of the possible names that one could give their kid should remain intact.

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    Yeah, I'm all for "freedom" here but I'm also for common sense. Parents should be naming their kids to give them an identity, to empower them. Names shouldn't be given to children for attention, which is honestly the only excuse I can fathom for naming a kid "Number 16 Bus Shelter".

    Children are not freaking lap dogs. They are not fashion accessories. They are people who have to go to school, get jobs and interact with others. Giving a kid such an outrageous name is just fantastic for the parents who want their ten minutes of fame, but not for the kid who has to live with the name FOR YEARS before they can change it and during that time, they are getting unwanted attention, being ridiculed and most likely resent their parents for giving them a stupid name.

    But I guess years of bullying and ridicule are just things a kid has put up with if their parent wants to use their "freedom" (yet another word that's thrown around way too damn much) to name them "Talula Does the Hula" (I didn't make this up; there was a girl who was named this).
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    @wolfgirl90 Except no one ever sticks to common sense. Sure it's done that way at first but look at New Zealand. They're now adding names for what ever they please. If you start regulating it it's going to go out of control. People in power will continue to meddle more and more. As is being shown to happen in New Zealand.

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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    If I had a daughter I'd probably name her Zelda (because I'm a fan of the Zelda games) and that isn't actually too strange of a name. If I had a son son I'd want to call him Link but since that isn't even a normal name, I'd call him Lincoln instead which indeed can be abbreviated when pronouncing it to "Link", just like Ben is short for Benjamin.


    I wonder if in Newzeland names "Hot Chick" and "Sexy Babe" have been banned from being given to girls. LOL
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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    This will help to illustrate if they don't enforce that law. Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    @wolfgirl90 Except no one ever sticks to common sense. Sure it's done that way at first but look at New Zealand. They're now adding names for what ever they please. If you start regulating it it's going to go out of control. People in power will continue to meddle more and more. As is being shown to happen in New Zealand.
    When it comes to New Zealand, I see mostly names that are so outrageous and ludicrous as to not even warrant discussion.

    The new law says that names can't cause offense to a reasonable person (such naming a kid Satan or Hitler), can't be 100 characters or more long, include titles or military rank or include punctuation marks or numerals. While the first part is a bit vague (anytime "offense" is added to anything, it could cause a problem on both sides), unusual names are subject to approval and parents can plead their case.

    It's to prevent inconsistencies since parents were blocked from naming their kid "Fish and Chips", "Sex Fruit", "Yeah Detroit" and "Twisty Poi" but allowing names such as "Midnight Chardonnay", "Cinderella Beauty Blossom" and "Talula Does the Hula From Hawaii" (that one still gives me chills).

    It MIGHT get a little nuts, but at the moment, the law gives a lot (A LOT) of wiggle room when it comes to names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfgirl90 View Post
    When it comes to New Zealand, I see mostly names that are so outrageous and ludicrous as to not even warrant discussion.

    The new law says that names can't cause offense to a reasonable person (such naming a kid Satan or Hitler), can't be 100 characters or more long, include titles or military rank or include punctuation marks or numerals. While the first part is a bit vague (anytime "offense" is added to anything, it could cause a problem on both sides), unusual names are subject to approval and parents can plead their case.

    It's to prevent inconsistencies since parents were blocked from naming their kid "Fish and Chips", "Sex Fruit", "Yeah Detroit" and "Twisty Poi" but allowing names such as "Midnight Chardonnay", "Cinderella Beauty Blossom" and "Talula Does the Hula From Hawaii" (that one still gives me chills).

    It MIGHT get a little nuts, but at the moment, the law gives a lot (A LOT) of wiggle room when it comes to names.
    The title and offense are what get me. First, anyone can find anything offensive but I'll drop this one since you're already commented on it. The titles just seem the start of a treacherous path. I've known a guy named Bishop and a kid named King. No one thought either of them where what their names suggest. Banning names because they're also titles is stupid. Especially when those titles have nothing to do with the country such as King. Only thing that makes sense to me is the character limit since it effects documentation and the like and a hundred characters is more then enough.

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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    I don't have anything against unusual names (I myself have a small collection of classical names picked for when I some day have kids) but I do have a problem with naming your kid a sentence or something terrible like asd;lfkjaweopiweiijodfspjosaoji. Why should the child have to go through life with a name like that? It's like naming your child a curse word. You permenately brand them as an outcast for life or they are forced to change their name and resent you for life. There just isn't any point in the hassle. Plus, a lot of the names they were using should be trademarked or something. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    Well how do you deem what is weird or not.. I want to name my kid kira.. Sure it's not a normal american sounding name but I thought it was pretty [even before getting into anime.. Stupid death note almost ruined it for me!.. I will never watch that show.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red&Stiletto View Post
    There just isn't any point in the hassle. .
    It is. It is time people stopped being mentally limited and scolding people for having names different then those popular locally. The more people with "wired" names, the closer we are to this goal.

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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    There goes my chance of naming my child *insert random word here*

    I really dont mind if parents name their children weird names, because they can eventually change them. However, little kids tend to be mean, so your child is likely to get bullied to no end in school.

    Just look at the guy who was named Puto.
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    The country's Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages has also ruled out using punctuation marks, such as full stops, asterisks, and virgules, as names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    The title and offense are what get me. First, anyone can find anything offensive but I'll drop this one since you're already commented on it. The titles just seem the start of a treacherous path. I've known a guy named Bishop and a kid named King. No one thought either of them where what their names suggest. Banning names because they're also titles is stupid. Especially when those titles have nothing to do with the country such as King. Only thing that makes sense to me is the character limit since it effects documentation and the like and a hundred characters is more then enough.
    When it comes to titles, New Zealand is a constitutional monarchy. They are a commonwealth realm with Elizabeth II as their head of state. The country shares its royal family with the United Kingdom (and the other commonwealth realms for that matter). I can only assume that the restriction of these titles (such as King, Prince, Knight) might be out of respect. Religious titles, like Bishop, could be withheld for the same reason (while the Queen has no religious role in New Zealand, she does appoint bishops and archbishops in England).

    I'm not sure how "treacherous" a path this could lead to. Titles seem to be restricted out of respect and/or because they are titles that are officially given to someone (e.g senior military ranks, religious titles). Considering only a handful of titles can be used as suitable names (I mean, is it necessary to name a kid "Wing Commander"?), this isn't much of an issue.

    Like I said, a few of the restrictions do make me raise an eyebrow (the whole "offense" thing), but since most of the blocked names have been outrageously stupid (I feel bad for the kid who parents felt the need to name them "Sex Fruit"), I don't see this as much of an issue.

    There has to be limit somewhere, a line that shouldn't be crossed. With all of the words that exist on this planet (as I see no restriction on foreign names), saying that you don't name your kid with a title or something offensive is honestly not asking for too much, considering that most parents are not naming their kids with these stupid names for the benefit of the kid; they are doing it because they want names in the paper and their faces on television because, in a moment of shocking stupidity, they wanted to became famous for naming their child "Facebook".
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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    @wolfgirl90 I just don't put a lot of faith in governments since you give them a penny and they go for a pound. They'll just add more and more restrictions for any reason they can come up with. It wont stop at titles or "stupid" (which is relative) names.

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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    Quote Originally Posted by nathanromml View Post
    It is. It is time people stopped being mentally limited and scolding people for having names different then those popular locally. The more people with "wired" names, the closer we are to this goal.
    I don't have a problem with weird names. I have a problem with people naming their kids with sentences. "Number 16 Bus Shelter" will probably have a terrible childhood unless they don't tell people they're real name. Besides, I think that names play a small part in how people turn out as human beings and naming a kid "Violence" or "Devil" doesn't seem like it will end well. Don't get me wrong, I know lots of people with names that are far from run-of-the-mill. Challan, Khaymen, Starr, Maritza, Ocean, Javian, Dommy, Lana- all names that are unique and pretty that belong to people I personally know. My favorites names include Oddessa, Jobyna, Magdelina, Ezekiel, Weston, Marlin, Allouette, Avery, Sky- none of which you find a dime a dozen of. But naming your child a long string consanants and pronouncing it "Albin" is a problem for me. How is the child supposed to explain that to teachers and friends? I understand being open about names. There are a lot of people out there who are too concerned with what people name their children. It doesn't generally bother me unless it will in some way negatively impact the child's life.
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    @wolfgirl90 I just don't put a lot of faith in governments since you give them a penny and they go for a pound. They'll just add more and more restrictions for any reason they can come up with. It wont stop at titles or "stupid" (which is relative) names.
    While I can almost see how this can go awry, AT THE MOMENT, there needs to be a line drawn and the line that's been drawn looks pretty reasonable. Parents certainly have some "freedoms" when it comes to naming their kids (I won't say it's a "right" because, honestly, people use that word too often for things that don't apply), but kids shouldn't be treated like fashion accessories or toy dogs. No one is going to care about what name you give to a car. And a little chihuahua is not going to care about it's name (or even recognize it for that matter).

    But children do care about their names, especially upon the realization that their parents honestly didn't give two craps about naming them or decided to give them a borderline horrendous name (again, "Sex Fruit"?) for ten minutes of fame, in complete disregard for the fact that their child will have to live with the name for a sizable chunk of their lives ("Talula Does the Hula in Hawaii" managed to have her name changed at the age of nine; not everyone will get that chance).

    Again, my biggest point is that the majority of the names have been genuinely stupid (there is no arguing how ridiculous a name "Midnight Chardonnay" is) and really, no child should be given those names and the growing trend of parents deciding to gain fame from naming their kids something extremely stupid or offensive (because shock value is the ONLY reason why ANYONE would name their kid "Lucifer" or "Hitler") needs to be nipped in the bud.
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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    @wolfgirl90 Except what's stopping a government from saying a name is stupid and the parents legitimately thought it was a good name and a few people in power simply didn't like it and banned it? Basing a law on something that's wholly opinionated isn't a good idea.

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    Default Re: New Zealand bans weird kid names

    Eh, I don't really care for this weird name ban. xD; I have a bit of a strange one myself, and if you get teased for actually having a name of your own, so be it. I think I recall reading somewhere, that some parents of a certain religion or something of the sort[cannot remember which] would give their children "terrible" names like "dish rag" and such so the Devil wouldn't want them. And then from that I'm guessing from that, when the time supposedly came, Heaven would take them instead. So really, the government over there is making a fuss over nothing


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