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    Well I was watching an episode of NGE where they were talking about temperatures relation to atoms. Aka cool a gas and it becomes a liquid, Cool a liquid and it becomes a solid and the reverse.


    Whats gets me about this is it feels like the anime is trying to be smart for little kiddies or something as they are always at stupid level.


    I mean I have only noticed this in NGE. It nearly even discredits NGE that is even has to try to do crap like this.

    I wanted to like NGE and will force myself to watch the rest but I don't think its going to be a good ride with noob level science teachings and girls that act like CENSORED.


    Also they applied the physics laws to wrong practical examples like Shinji's genitalia in hot water which isn't atoms creating more space between them at all. Hot water simply allows blood to flow more freely to the meat and 2 veg which makes it larger just like an erection does. Even Viagra does this.
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    Default Re: Does this annoy you about some anime

    I can see why you might be butthurt. It seems that you're a sort of a science geek and thus you can't tolerate things like that.

    I can perfectly understand you.
    Being a military geek I can't forgive Evangelion for ep.8 where giant robots piloted by 14 year old kids jumped from a motherfrelling aircraft carrier(!!!) to a motherfrelling aircraft carrier severely damaging it in the process. That was almost painful for me to watch. And then that aircraft fighter started off without acceleration. Like a chopper. And I was like FUUUU.


    I can only advice you to take it easy, remember that it's a work of fiction, ignore it and move on.

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    Evangelion is soft-sci-fi, so concepts like this would need to be explained.

    It was generally viewed as a children's series until... yeah.

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    Default Re: Does this annoy you about some anime

    Quote Originally Posted by squareenixx View Post
    Well I was watching an episode of NGE where they were talking about temperatures relation to atoms. Aka cool a gas and it becomes a liquid, Cool a liquid and it becomes a solid and the reverse.


    Whats gets me about this is it feels like the anime is trying to be smart for little kiddies or something as they are always at stupid level.


    I mean I have only noticed this in NGE. It nearly even discredits NGE that is even has to try to do crap like this.

    I wanted to like NGE and will force myself to watch the rest but I don't think its going to be a good ride with noob level science teachings and girls that act like CENSORED.


    Also they applied the physics laws to wrong practical examples like Shinji's genitalia in hot water which isn't atoms creating more space between them at all. Hot water simply allows blood to flow more freely to the meat and 2 veg which makes it larger just like an erection does. Even Viagra does this.
    Actually, they weren't talking about phase changes of matter, they were talking about thermal expansion. When matter, no matter what phase it is in, gains energy, the atoms and molecules that compose that matter will vibrate more, and thus bump into one another more frequently. These interactions cause the matter to expand when heat is gained and contract when heat is lost. This effects of thermal expansion are larger for gases than for liquids, and larger for liquids than for solids - some solids will experience almost no thermal expansion depending on lattice structures and such things.

    Oh, and Evangelion used this as a joke regarding Shinji's erection.

    And lastly, if you don't stop swearing and avoiding the censor I will give you an infraction. Consider this your only verbal warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    And lastly, if you don't stop swearing and avoiding the censor I will give you an infraction. Consider this your only verbal warning.
    Quote Originally Posted by squareenixx View Post
    I wanted to like NGE and will force myself to watch the rest but I don't think its going to be a good ride with noob level science teachings and girls that act like b.i.t.c.hes.
    Adding dots is still avoiding the filter.

    And another thing. No it does not annoy me. Gj already explained the joke to you. But anime is just fiction. People don't magically jump 10 stories and land without scratches etc. etc. There are real world loop holes all the time. Airbender for example talks about the elements found on earth. Granted you can't actually bend them. And some anime teach you about Japanese legends but yet they still are not accurate as they interperte them in their own way etc. etc.


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    The butthurt is understood, but it's an animu brah, no need to treat it like serious business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    Actually, they weren't talking about phase changes of matter, they were talking about thermal expansion. When matter, no matter what phase it is in, gains energy, the atoms and molecules that compose that matter will vibrate more, and thus bump into one another more frequently. These interactions cause the matter to expand when heat is gained and contract when heat is lost. This effects of thermal expansion are larger for gases than for liquids, and larger for liquids than for solids - some solids will experience almost no thermal expansion depending on lattice structures and such things.

    Oh, and Evangelion used this as a joke regarding Shinji's erection.

    And lastly, if you don't stop swearing and avoiding the censor I will give you an infraction. Consider this your only verbal warning.
    In case you don't know thermal expansion leads to changing the state of matter. Also supersolids (bose einstein condensates are even closer again) changing the arrangement and shape of molecules to act as one interwoven entity.

    Also its not only temperature that can achieve this. You can physically force molecules closer together to force them into a state. Hence compressed gas becomes a liquid and is very convenient to store.

    So what are you on about your saying thermal expansion has nothing to do with matters state. Huh even an air conditioner technician would know more than you about gas dynamics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareenixx View Post
    In case you don't know thermal expansion leads to changing the state of matter. Also supersolids (bose einstein condensates are even closer again) changing the arrangement and shape of molecules to act as one interwoven entity.

    Also its not only temperature that can achieve this. You can physically force molecules closer together to force them into a state. Hence compressed gas becomes a liquid and is very convenient to store.

    So what are you on about your saying thermal expansion has nothing to do with matters state. Huh even an air conditioner technician would know more than you about gas dynamics.
    I know it has nothing to do with the phase changes, which is why I was wondering what you were talking about, because they do not talk about phase changes, but about thermal expansion. Sure, this can lead to phase changes, but within the context of the show's dialogue this is a non sequitor. And, yes, appropriate changes in temperature, pressure, volume, or substitution of gases will result in changes of molecular interaction.

    I hardly feel the need to be lectured in high school level thermodynamics.

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    @Gjallarhorn That's not even high school, it's elementary and at most sixth grade middle school. It's just basic science. As for the show, haven't seen the anime but I think you're just being picky. If you're a science nut and it bothers you then either pass on the anime or ignore it. And I gotta say the hot water example made me cringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    I know it has nothing to do with the phase changes, which is why I was wondering what you were talking about, because they do not talk about phase changes, but about thermal expansion. Sure, this can lead to phase changes, but within the context of the show's dialogue this is a non sequitor. And, yes, appropriate changes in temperature, pressure, volume, or substitution of gases will result in changes of molecular interaction.

    I hardly feel the need to be lectured in high school level thermodynamics.
    Well clearly you do. Number 1 the human skin in a superior heat and electric insulator. If our body rises higher than 37 C such as heat stroke which leads to Hyperthermia which can lead to death. We don't expand sorry, In fact the body will lose mass by sweating and trying to cool itself.

    Also yes I get it you understand basic physics such as atomic collisions and states of matter but this proves nothing in the way NGE represented them in the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareenixx View Post
    Well clearly you do. Number 1 the human skin in a superior heat and electric insulator. If our body rises higher than 37 C such as heat stroke which leads to Hyperthermia which can lead to death. We don't expand sorry, In fact the body will lose mass by sweating and trying to cool itself.

    Also yes I get it you understand basic physics such as atomic collisions and states of matter but this proves nothing in the way NGE represented them in the wrong way.
    Okay, let me explain this joke for you, since you clearly do not get it. Shinji is saying that the heat caused his blood to thermally expand, thereby giving him an erection. I believe the same was also joked about with Asuka's breasts or something, but it's been quite few years since I lasted watched the series. It's not meant to be physically accurate, it's a bad excuse on Shinji's part, and a joke on the part of the producers.

    Also, thermal expansion of the human skin is not on a large scale, but on a very, very small scale there is some level of expansion. We aren't going to balloon up, but the skin will expand, likely on the nano scale.

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    Default Re: Does this annoy you about some anime

    Look, I'm going to be straightforward with you. It's obvious you have already decided to hate this anime for one reason or another.

    I know it's an disappointing experience that can happen to anyone; especially with all the hype, but sometimes a series simply isn't for you. And once you already decide to dislike a series, chances are that from that point on all you're going to do is look for and start noticing more and more little faults with the series that you wouldn't usually mind in a series you actually like. I recommend that once you get to this stage you just ditch the series and move on to something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    Okay, let me explain this joke for you, since you clearly do not get it. Shinji is saying that the heat caused his blood to thermally expand, thereby giving him an erection. I believe the same was also joked about with Asuka's breasts or something, but it's been quite few years since I lasted watched the series. It's not meant to be physically accurate, it's a bad excuse on Shinji's part, and a joke on the part of the producers.

    Also, thermal expansion of the human skin is not on a large scale, but on a very, very small scale there is some level of expansion. We aren't going to balloon up, but the skin will expand, likely on the nano scale.
    Okay I give up on you. You think breasts can get erections huh.
    Also of course temperature affects matter. And of course that includes everything including our external which isn't controlled but it is so minimal and invisible to the eye and the body has modified the skin to react to these physical reactions. Like goose bumps which help keep us warm by creating small air pockets around the standing hair.

    Also I am done you can think temperature is responsible for erections but that amount of logic has scared me away from this forum of the uneducated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gjallarhorn View Post
    Okay, let me explain this joke for you, since you clearly do not get it. Shinji is saying that the heat caused his blood to thermally expand, thereby giving him an erection. I believe the same was also joked about with Asuka's breasts or something, but it's been quite few years since I lasted watched the series. It's not meant to be physically accurate, it's a bad excuse on Shinji's part, and a joke on the part of the producers.

    Also, thermal expansion of the human skin is not on a large scale, but on a very, very small scale there is some level of expansion. We aren't going to balloon up, but the skin will expand, likely on the nano scale.
    Ah you think breasts get erections. Jeez I am done here.

    Also the human body has evolved to regulate everything even the external. Goose bumps are the skins reaction to stand hairs up and create a air pocket barrier. Sweat is the technique used to cool the skin also. Its called homeostasis and it is the equilibrium of everything in the body which relies on negative feedback systems. You see the skin and hypothalamus have thermo-receptors in them so they are always monitoring everything and adjusting as needed.

    Also have fun with your temperature induced erection because you must be the only one that can do them. Have fun.

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    Ah you think breasts get erections. Jeez I am done here.

    Also the human body has evolved to regulate everything even the external. Goose bumps are the skins reaction to stand hairs up and create a air pocket barrier. Sweat is the technique used to cool the skin also. Its called homeostasis and it is the equilibrium of everything in the body which relies on negative feedback systems. You see the skin and hypothalamus have thermo-receptors in them so they are always monitoring everything and adjusting as needed.

    Also have fun with your temperature induced erection because you must be the only one that can do them. Have fun.
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    This guy thinks that Gj thinks that women get brest erections.. OH MY GOD... The most funniest thing I've read in a while


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    This guy thinks that Gj thinks that women get brest erections.. OH MY GOD... The most funniest thing I've read in a while
    I think his reading comprehension skills are being blinded by how much he wants to be right. A usual problem people have. Mhm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Tsundere View Post
    I think his reading comprehension skills are being blinded by how much he wants to be right. A usual problem people have. Mhm.
    But most of them at least tries to hide it.

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    Also, I agree with Datenshi's very logical post you just so happened to ignore. This animu just ain't for you, Brah. And now you're being nitpicky and a real grump. All is right with the world. Move on~

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    also, i agree with datenshi's very logical post you just so happened to ignore. This animu just ain't for you, brah. And now you're being nitpicky and a real grump. All is right with the world. Move on~
    dat pic
    why didn't you posted it earlier!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareenixx View Post
    Ah you think breasts get erections. Jeez I am done here.

    Also the human body has evolved to regulate everything even the external. Goose bumps are the skins reaction to stand hairs up and create a air pocket barrier. Sweat is the technique used to cool the skin also. Its called homeostasis and it is the equilibrium of everything in the body which relies on negative feedback systems. You see the skin and hypothalamus have thermo-receptors in them so they are always monitoring everything and adjusting as needed.

    Also have fun with your temperature induced erection because you must be the only one that can do them. Have fun.
    Use logic, it's obvious he meant expansion in the case of her breasts. I.e. bigger BOOBIES! (Yes, you can't say BOOBIES! without shouting it. :P) And yes the body regulates, but what Gjall said is still true. Our skin is still affected ever so slightly but hot and cold. Even if it's extremely minor. Not like our skin is immune to physics. Even something like wood expands and contracts from the elements slightly. Human skin is no different.

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