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    Default Re: Man Seeks Jail For Treatment

    I don't disagree. I'm just establishing one note worthy difference between a state in the U.S. and a Scandinavian country. States have to be more strict about financing things as they can only borrow as much as others are willing to lend.

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    Default Re: Man Seeks Jail For Treatment

    Wow. That is sad and pretty desperate. :[

    ... I never would have thought jail to be an option. O_o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    What is preventing certain states from establishing their own subsidized health care system? Many of them have populations at or above that of a Scandinavian country. They could discriminate in the same way Universities do when determining tuition to deter free riders.
    Nothing, but I'm of the opinion that 50 different healthcare systems is a worse solution then one good one.

    The key difference here is that a state, unlike a Scandinavian country, can print out currency to sustain such a system.
    I'm absolutely positive the right to establish currency is reserved to congress. Not that printing currency would be a good idea.

    You have to take whiteout and ink to the constitution to establish nationwide subsidized health care.
    I've never heard an argument for why that would be the case, just people reading certain articles and interjecting their views in between the lines. But at any rate, it's a moot point because the constitution is a living document.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan_Project_2000 View Post
    Nothing, but I'm of the opinion that 50 different healthcare systems is a worse solution then one good one.
    It allows states who don't want to have public health care not to have it. It allows states that do want it to optimize their system. It allows American citizens to vote with their feet without emigration. I'm not sure how mainstreaming it will help anything.

    I'm absolutely positive the right to establish currency is reserved to congress. Not that printing currency would be a good idea.
    If only I didn't give so much context to that sentence, maybe the typo would not have been too obvious to notice.

    I've never heard an argument for why that would be the case, just people reading certain articles and interjecting their views in between the lines. But at any rate, it's a moot point because the constitution is a living document.
    The national government only has a few enumerated powers, and every thing else is strictly prohibit and left to the states. Basically if you think something is constitutional, name the power that makes it so, otherwise it's unconstitutional. It's only a moot point because SCOTUS consistently uses their invisible, pink constitution to undermine everything written in the actual one that was endowed to us ignorant hillbillies. I concede that much. Supposing that unconstitutional legislation would require an amendment to be enforced was wishful thinking on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    The funny part is that America is one of few countries in the world that has this weird gay prison rape thing going on.
    Yeah it is soooo frikkin creepy. I would be scared as a man, to go there o.o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wio View Post
    It allows states who don't want to have public health care not to have it. It allows states that do want it to optimize their system. It allows American citizens to vote with their feet without emigration. I'm not sure how mainstreaming it will help anything.
    Leaving it to the states is the same thing as not having it at all because of how states do their budgets. States aren't supposed to go into debt, so in order to make any sort of big new system they have to front the money or convince the US Government to. The first is unlikely because of how short-sighted any elected official is expected by their electorate to be and the latter would go over like a lead balloon. The US government, however, is able to go into debt at will and pay for stuff later, which actually allows officeholders to make big plans that outlast them.


    If only I didn't give so much context to that sentence, maybe the typo would not have been too obvious to notice.
    I'm not sure I understand, especially since you verified that you were talking about printing currency when you replied to Eris when she was saying it was a bad idea to.

    The national government only has a few enumerated powers, and every thing else is strictly prohibit and left to the states. Basically if you think something is constitutional, name the power that makes it so, otherwise it's unconstitutional. It's only a moot point because SCOTUS consistently uses their invisible, pink constitution to undermine everything written in the actual one that was endowed to us ignorant hillbillies. I concede that much. Supposing that unconstitutional legislation would require an amendment to be enforced was wishful thinking on my part.
    There are two ways to read the constitution, either in the way a D&D rule lawyer reads the 3.5 Character Guide or in an intelligent way that takes into account what the founding fathers actually meant. I'd love to hear what evidence anyone has to think that they thought states specifically should pay doctors to do anything for anyone. In context, the Constitution is completely blank on the subject, and it's up for grabs until the Supreme Court or an amendment say otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    The funny part is that America is one of few countries in the world that has this weird gay prison rape thing going on.
    Unlikely, men have a marked propensity to ignore the owner of a particular orifice in an all-male environment, it's mostly good 'ole American homophobia that's made it such a meme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Guys, universal health care isn't the end all be all for things like this. It has its own issues. Just look at Canada, you could end up waiting months for treatment there. Sure it's free but there's also a chance what ever you have could get worse before they see you.
    That isn't a sign of universal healthcare. When I set up doctors appointments I have to wait months at a time before being seen. Dentist, family doctor, psychologist... Don't say that when its just a sign of everyone using a service.
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