Some of you might go to the hills with a backpack.
I wrote a guide on how to properly use your backpack and thus make it a less painful experience.
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Some of you might go to the hills with a backpack.
I wrote a guide on how to properly use your backpack and thus make it a less painful experience.
I should try and follow that diagram with all the junk I load in my bag for college.
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I just pour crap into my backpack in one big jumble.
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I hire a sherpa if it gets heavy.
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I just keep a few folders in mine. OH SO HEAVY.... The rest I put in my purse. There is no proper way to organize a purse.
And it doesn't matter how you "organize" a heavy bookbag. The same amount of weight is still in the bag regardless of how you place it. It just doesn't magically lose some of it's weight in correspondence to product placement.
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This is a Sig. It's horribly out of date.
Hold a 30 lb dumbell at arms length.
Now hold the same 30 lb dumbell close to your body.
Does it feel the same? No.
Generally the packing method follows the same principles in regards to
- pressure points (weight on strong parts vs weight on weak parts of your body)
- torque (therefore stability)
The "axis" of the bag is the part that is horizontal to the ground and is perpendicular to your spine and sits across the top of your hips.
If you have your heavy stuff high and away from your back, it creates torque which makes the bag pull away from you backwards when you move. At standstill, it makes you top heavy. When you just about put on your pack, it may not feel like much but after going a distance it will tax your endurance.
Weight distribution is not going to make the bag lighter, but it will make it much more stable and will put the weight on the stronger parts of your body while putting less weight on your weaker parts.
My work bag routinely weighs around 10-20kg and I seem to be fine standing/walking patrols for 5-14 hour periods.
Might be my huge size though...
Two 6 D Cell Mag-Lites, 4 D Cell LED torch, full first aid kit in environmentally secure case (water proof etc), Several D cells, two 300ml energy drinks, a steel flask holding 1.5l boiling water, stainless steel water bottle, two instant noodle boxes, coffee/hot chocolate sachets, usually a few sweets as an additional pick me up, Security log book, spare pens and notebooks and quite likely other things I've forgotten.
Why a first aid kit? In Australia it's mandatory for guards to complete a senior first aid course. It teaches how to deal with near anything that might pop up, but because of it a well stocked kit is huge. But anyway, tons of crap, I'm on my feet carrying it for up to 14 hours a 24 hour day and I've never packed it specially apart from dumping easily breakable things like noodle boxes in a side pocket. My one grievance is finding a decent looking backpack big enough when my last one carks it.
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Awesome. So what kind of guard work do you do? You don't have to give specifics.
15kg is the light load for small stuff but I use it as a weight marker point because it's the weight in which variables start to matter. 50kg loads are not uncommon if I'm bringing flak, ammo and rifle.
Also, getting old from years of taking crap out into the mountains so the weight distribution starts to matter more. As injuries and wear and tear pile up... forces you to work a bit smarter.
And dude, I hope that's not your complete packing list because there's no way that stuff is 20kg. I've shoved in way more crap than that and it didn't reach 20kg. And that's including a whole week's worth of rations and 4L of water.
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I'll bring whatever I need to bring that is necessary.
Most of the time I carry a purse but I don't stuff things in there so much. lol So its fairly light, maybe close to 3-4 lbs. with my purse. For my backpack, I guestimate it to be around 5 lbs. It doesn't seem so heavy for me so I guess I'm okay. o_o
Yeeeeah, well I honestly won't carry that. At all as long its not too heavy for me. I'll just get my boyfriend to carry the heavy things for me. <3; I'll ask nicely. hehe
Notice I said 10-20kg.
My work bag is for static/mobile patrols around a pair of shopping complexes during the graveyard shift hours (open site).
Essentially I'm just there to protect buildings, but in Australia guards have what's called duty of care. If a drunk or druggie injures himself on site I have to provide first aid (it's amazing how many people think they can jump off a second floor onto the pavement from the parking below), if some hoons attempt to assault me and I'm forced to injure them in self defence, it's more of the same - gotta patch them up and call someone qualified. I can't stress how much stuff we carry in our kits, even the materials to patch a lung puncture (sealing the wound in a way that covers it when inhaling and opens while exhaling). Some of the mobile guards in cars even carry a portable defibrillator to assist with CPR when required. It pays to be prepared for anything after all.
Oh yeah, add cold/wet weather gear, reflective vests (bloody OHS regulations) and basic tools for removing hazards like fallen trees into the mix. That's the other part of Security - identifying and either removing or minimizing hazards (some of which requires yet more gear).
It's had a single noticeable effect on me - my legs are hard as anything.
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It should go something like this
Inside
1st the clothing (If you are camping over several days)
2nd sleeping bag
3rd Food / rations / cooking equipment
4th that days walking food
5th waterproof clothing
Outside
your rollmat
Tent equipment
No need. This weekend's mountain trip I'll be the group Medic and Biochemist, so all I'll be packing would be my large Medkit and some small bags of weed and hash.
It's a guide about the weight distribution.
Not about what to bring. Which is a different matter altogether. Depends on what you want to do out there, who you're going with, how many are in your party etc.
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No Wonder it weighs so much. I was thinking you were carrying an Aid kit like an IFAK or something. You're probably carrying one roughly the size of what a Corpsman (or medic) brings along. That's gotta suck dude.
Yh well I go hiking every now and then and thats how I've been taught to pack my bag and it works very well
I think I'll use this guide for all of my university stuff that I have to fit inside my backpack
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