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    Default 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    We already have a thread about if you like 3-D or not. But this one is about the new direction 3-D films are taking. Sure nearly everything recent is being released in 3-D. Nothing new of course but what about the recreation of past accomplishments?

    Titanic is due to be re-released in theaters on April 6th 2012. For the Titanic's 100th anniversary. But the catch is..... It'll be in 3D. It'll be awkward for those who are against the 3-D movie but it'll give others a chance to see the #1 highest grossing film of all time the way it earned that title. Back in theaters. Which is an opportunity a few generations have missed.

    Following this news. Another famous Oscar winning title is also being brought back to the big screen. But int he form of 3-D. The Lion king. Which will be released sooner than the Titanic.. September 16th 2011. But only for 2 weeks.



    Your opinions of bringing the classics back into light? But at the cost of re-mastering them into 3-D. Do you think it'll shed a whole new light on the experience of seeing something we already know and love?

    Personally I'm going to see them. I was only about 5 years old when the Titanic came into theaters and about 2 years old when The Lion king was released into theaters. I think the magic of seeing the films i grew up on but was too young to understand while in theaters is worth it being in 3-D. Hopefully they don't screw it up.
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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    3D is just so useless in most movies and it has no purpose.

    Bringing back the old franchises is just a way of milking them.


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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    I see 3D as Autotunes retarded brother. A stupid trend we need to just get over with, since it ruins everything

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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    NO! 3D is just all lies! It's more expensive and the movie isn't even looking better - it actually often looks worse in 3D. It often becomes more blurred and your brain feels like a milkshake while you are watching it, and that's really bad and not worth the money spent on the ticket. 3D movies don't even usually have so many 3D effects so it's really most times really useless to go and watch a 3D movie. Sure, you can wear a pair of ugly glasses - but then what? o_o 3-4 times you will see that something really small maybe a 3D affect, but that will also be it.

    Old movies arn't even made for 3D so those will be even more pointless to see in that format....



    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    3D is just so useless in most movies and it has no purpose.

    Bringing back the old franchises is just a way of milking them.

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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    Soooo you're saying watching it on your regular ol TV is better than watching it on the big screen? I'd rather watch it on the big screen even if it was in 3-D. I'm not a fan of 3-D. Won't see the new releases in them. I just see them in regular. But it should be an interesting experience. They may not slaughter it too much.

    Of course I'd prefer they take the most popular and start running them in theaters for a month. one week for each movie or something in regular 2D. But of course that's too much to ask for.


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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    Just go here, if you don't like 3D. Sure, you'd still pay the 3D prices but at least it'd be in 2D.

    http://www.2d-glasses.com/

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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    In almost every tech blog writers are saying the whole 3D thing is just a flash in the pan that electronics companies are using to generate sales. There are medical studies that say 60% or more of viewers can't watch 3D for very long without experiencing headaches, blurring of the vision, and/or nausea. There are still technical problems from the effect needs to be viewed from specific positions to really work to 3D is still tied to those damn glasses. Some glasses are anchored by cords and it's funny how nobody in the ads seems to have to wear prescription glasses. I wear glasses and in places where I had to wear safety glasses over my regular glasses it was an awful experience. There are a lot of tech folks calling 3D a scam, a sham, and worse designed to get $$$ from consumers for something that doesn't deliver what it promises.

    Maybe someday they will do 3D without requiring the extra gear and all the other issues will get solved as well. There was a reason it didn't catch on back decades ago when it first appeared in movie houses. I think the fascination with it now is the "wow" factor because it's something new to people. Techno-gadgetry is the new way of asserting status in society and there is always an eager market for the newest innovations even if they prove not so great in the long term.

    People were really impressed with my video player and its 1 1/2 X 1 inch screen. I was, too, until I actually tried to watch a 2 hour movie on it. Once was enough.

    I think people will get tired of the whole glasses thing and 3D will fade until they figure out a way to show it without the glasses. As to remaking movies in 3D- a bad movie in 3D will still be a bad movie. Other than that it's just like the second coming of vinyl LPs- a minute upsurge in sales does not indicate the making of a new trend.

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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    I never have any problems viewing 3-D. You guys whine a lot. I just prefer not to :|

    Quote Originally Posted by SuXrys View Post
    Sure, you can wear a pair of ugly glasses
    And the glasses now don't look silly. They look like regular sunglasses. Use that as an excuse then don't wear regular sunglasses and go make fun of people who wear glasses in general.



    Plus what GameGeeks said. There are glasses that make it 2D again. Sure you pay the higher price. But for some the trade-off of seeing their favorite movies in theaters when they previously couldn't may be worth it. And companies milk people all the time. New ipods. New iphones. New driods. New game releases in a series. etc. etc.

    Not for or against 3-D But your reasons seem off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyzen View Post
    In almost every tech blog writers are saying the whole 3D thing is just a flash in the pan that electronics companies are using to generate sales. There are medical studies that say 60% or more of viewers can't watch 3D for very long without experiencing headaches, blurring of the vision, and/or nausea. There are still technical problems from the effect needs to be viewed from specific positions to really work to 3D is still tied to those damn glasses. Some glasses are anchored by cords and it's funny how nobody in the ads seems to have to wear prescription glasses. I wear glasses and in places where I had to wear safety glasses over my regular glasses it was an awful experience. There are a lot of tech folks calling 3D a scam, a sham, and worse designed to get $$$ from consumers for something that doesn't deliver what it promises.

    Maybe someday they will do 3D without requiring the extra gear and all the other issues will get solved as well. There was a reason it didn't catch on back decades ago when it first appeared in movie houses. I think the fascination with it now is the "wow" factor because it's something new to people. Techno-gadgetry is the new way of asserting status in society and there is always an eager market for the newest innovations even if they prove not so great in the long term.

    People were really impressed with my video player and its 1 1/2 X 1 inch screen. I was, too, until I actually tried to watch a 2 hour movie on it. Once was enough.

    I think people will get tired of the whole glasses thing and 3D will fade until they figure out a way to show it without the glasses. As to remaking movies in 3D- a bad movie in 3D will still be a bad movie. Other than that it's just like the second coming of vinyl LPs- a minute upsurge in sales does not indicate the making of a new trend.
    It's only 10% that suffer from that. If it was 60% companies wouldn't be doing it since many people would complain and they want as many people to go see it as possible.

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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    I think it really depends on the execution. Avatar in 3D was the most visually stunning thing I had ever seen at the movies.
    So if it's done properly, I think it's alright. Would I watch Battle: Los Angeles in 3D? You bet I will!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryoga-kun View Post
    I think it really depends on the execution. Avatar in 3D was the most visually stunning thing I had ever seen at the movies.
    So if it's done properly, I think it's alright. Would I watch Battle: Los Angeles in 3D? You bet I will!
    No, Avatar was stunning due to the CGI. There was very little actual 3D. The CGI was the only thing that it had going for it.

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    Depends on whose data you read. Of course they are going to downplay it. I'll take Cnet and CT-net's to name just two, word over Sony, LG, or any of the other players. Manufacturers have been historically less than honest about their products across the board from cigarettes to food to medicine to cars to toys to clothing to pet food and everything in between.

    Money is still tight and spending on things like HD TVs and the like flattened out as prices pretty much prove. They need a new something to entice people to plunk down the big dollars again. If they don't "sell" the public on how wonderful these sets are they will lose their butts on the investments. 3D will be the new Beta-Max and HD-DVD dead technology. Hell, I may be wrong about 3D, but I remember in the pet rock craze people did after all buy rocks in stores on a massive scale! Late night TV infomercials are the greatest social documentation of how with the right hype any kind of gold plated poop can be a commodity everyone will want to display on their coffee tables.

    Look at how people have been convinced they need a laptop for all kinds of things, a tablet PC for when they need to do a little less, a notebook for doing less, and a smart phone when all the preceding are "too much". How did they lose track that the first one could do it all? It's like if you drive you need a full size luxury car for long trips, a mid size sedan for shorter trips, a compact car for errands, and a scooter for just hopping around the neighborhood. It's the only "sensible" way to travel, right? Clever marketing does it! The guys who work in that marketing field are scary smart and know more about what people can be made to believe and know how to make them believe it than anybody. I have heard it said that the devil's greatest trick was making people think he didn't exist. The truth is the devil is a marketer.

    Can you give a source for your 10% information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    No, Avatar was stunning due to the CGI. There was very little actual 3D. The CGI was the only thing that it had going for it.
    Thank you!!!!!
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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    I still think this 3D business is a way for companies to get more money, I mean, they are a company so they do the what they have to do to earn more cash.

    Also the experience that it was originally felt won't be the same as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyzen View Post
    Depends on whose data you read. Of course they are going to downplay it. I'll take Cnet and CT-net's to name just two, word over Sony, LG, or any of the other players.
    Stopped reading here. Cnet is a media company. Just like Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyzen View Post

    Can you give a source for your 10% information?[COLOR="Silver"]
    I will..... And it's actually not really even 10% but less really.

    Not everyone is loving the 3D craze. Depending on which expert you listen to, between 2 and 12 percent of all viewers are unable to appreciate video shown in 3D. There are two possible reasons for not being able to watch 3D movies or television
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    No, Avatar was stunning due to the CGI. There was very little actual 3D. The CGI was the only thing that it had going for it.
    I watched it both in 3D and 2D. And the 3D version was just more stunning.
    I'm usually not impressed easily with these "gimmicky" claims but I just felt that it was all about the quality of execution. If you do it right, it looks stunning. Avatar in 2D just didn't look that revolutionary. In 3D it just looked like it was a cut above anything I had seen before visually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryoga-kun View Post
    I watched it both in 3D and 2D. And the 3D version was just more stunning.
    I'm usually not impressed easily with these "gimmicky" claims but I just felt that it was all about the quality of execution. If you do it right, it looks stunning. Avatar in 2D just didn't look that revolutionary. In 3D it just looked like it was a cut above anything I had seen before visually.
    Except you can count the number of times the 3D actually stood out on one hand.

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    Stopped reading here. Cnet is a media company. Just like Sony.
    Seriously? So just because an entity is a media company they cannot be trusted as a source when it comes to reporting on media issues? And who does one get trustworthy objective information from on technology? Diesel mechanics? The counter girl at 7-11? (no knock on either but when you discount everybody who reports on some subject and nullify what they say simply because they are in that profession it doesn't leave much of a logical choice) It kind of shuts down any debate when you get to pick and choose which sources you believe. Cnet doesn't do the research on things like this- they just gather and report what's out there. Didn't you ever have to do a report for school? Unless you wrote a PHD thesis you did exactly that: gathered information to support a conclusion and wrote a report. No disrespect intended but that's like throwing the baby out with the bathwater to say a source is not relevant because they are a media company reporting on the media. It's one thing when a source is known to distort the truth, ignore it, and out-right lie on a regular basis. Then you can say any "fact" from him/her/it is meaningless. Actions rightfully have weight that affects the credibility of the source.

    BTW: I just learned several 3D TV manufacturers have both agreed with the medical issues and have released lengthy warnings about their products. I give them props for that! Of course, like EULAs, nobody will read them. Since they are media companies should we ignore them? According to you- yes. IMHO, no, they should be heeded with the caveat that whatever they will acknowledge is likely far worse and more widespread than what they admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    I will..... And it's actually not really even 10% but less really.



    Source: http://www.mediacollege.com/3d/depth...ereoblind.html
    health problems +3D television

    There are so many sources I didn't want to spend the night writing them all but I would suggest entering "health risks +3D television" into Google. Pretty interesting stuff. I read about 24 or so of them. I believe your 10% or less figure would be called an outlier in statistics; there, but actually a meaningless datum because of the infrequency with which it appears.

    I also entered "is 3D television a scam" and there are way more people saying negative things than otherwise. I suppose "is 3D television as good as HD" would also bring up some facts that would surprise a lot of people.

    I worked with electronics and technology for well over 30 years and pretty well stayed current although my passion has been audio more than video. I take a somewhat different view of entertainment hardware than most people do based on my background. I also have a business background, both a BSBA and ran acustom motorcycle shop on the side, so I have an insight into what's going on there with the whys and hows of why 3D is suddenly the new thing and how it's more designed to create income than provide consumers with something new and revolutionary.

    Really, it doesn't much matter to me if people buy 3D sets or not or if the technology ultimately catches on or fails.

    In an earlier post I forgot to mention another example of a new technology gone bad: Quad stereo -four channel- that was going to revolutionize the way people listened to music. I think it makes a good analogy. Unlike the less than ideal 3D image quality of the sets I have seen, Quad really DID improve the audio listening experience, especially in a well set-up listening area. But, to fully adopt and utilize it people had to buy almost all new gear including at least a second pair of speakers. A rule of thumb for the days of high end audio was you should spend at least the equivalent or up for a pair of speakers as you did for all your other audio gear combined. (now days really good speakers can easily go over $20,000 and some even top $100,000!) Even in 1970s dollars that was a serious chunk of change! Then came the practical issue of where to put two more big speakers. Even after all that -the cost of new equipment and a place to put it- was worked out, the music companies didn't invest in the equipment to process and release four channel media so there was a vey limited selection available. For the folks in the ultra high end spectrum of audio, there wasn't a huge selection of discrete or intergrated gear. If you had a complete component set, having to buy a second pair of monoblock amplifiers was also frighteningly expensive. So, ultimately Quad failed. While it's apples and oranges to compare the two, Quad and 3D there are strong similarities in what happened with the first and what obstacles the second has to overcome. (as an aside, when I bought my 48" HD flat screen the sales guys told me the number one reason the new flat panel style sets were returned was because after people got them home they didn't have room for them!)

    Regardless, I spent my money on my HD flat screen and a 7.1 surround sound system and then bought all new speakers to upgrade it. I added a DVR, a Blu-Ray/standard def DVD combo player, and some other less than cheap pieces of gear for my TV setup. It wasn't all that long ago, either! (I don't even like to think about what I have invested in my sound system!) That alone is enough to make me shun the idea of a new 3D set. But, the practical reasons are my eyes tell me what I see with 3D is DIFFERENT than 2D TV but with rare exception it isn't as good an image as 1080i HD and that the 3D effect is often like a children's pop-up book with 2D images staggered across a surface to look 3D; my brain tells me that in the rush to market 3D that manufacturers are still experimenting with ways to present it and that, if it does stick around, it will not be what's out there now. So anything you buy today will likely be obsolete in a year and antiquated within 5 years. My wallet (and my wife) insists a fortune has already been invested in electronic video reproduction based ways to amuse ourselves and there are much better things we could do with the money than have another reason to say "look at this!" to people who visit us.

    Lastly, I can't get by the possible health issues. I can always get more money if I buy a dud or something goes obsolete. I think it's too soon to know everything because the sets haven't been widely circulated or in use long enough to know what, if any, long term physiological effects they will have. I kinda like my vision, so even if all else was OK fine with them, I'd still have to pass even if money wasn't an issue. And it hasn't been researched yet to my knowledge what, if any, effect these sets may have on children whose eyes are still developing either from the images themselves or prolonged periods with different color filters over each eye.

    I'm not anti 3D TV, but I would advise anybody who asked me about such a set to try to see about renting one from those rip-off rental places and try it for a couple months. It may cost a couple hundred bucks, but at least you can take it back and spare yourself dropping big $$$ on something you may not enjoy as much as you thought. And if it does affect your body, better to get off cheap by returning it than trying to tough it out because you spent a lot of money on it.
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    Seriously? So just because an entity is a media company they cannot be trusted as a source when it comes to reporting on media issues? And who does one get trustworthy objective information from on technology? Diesel mechanics? The counter girl at 7-11? (no knock on either but when you discount everybody who reports on some subject and nullify what they say simply because they are in that profession it doesn't leave much of a logical choice) It kind of shuts down any debate when you get to pick and choose which sources you believe.
    I didn't read the rest that you said but... Just because it's a tech source doesn't mean it's unbiased and reliable. IE: IGN.com.... Your teacher never taught you that any internet source can promptly have misleading information unless it's educational. Governmental. or a well trusted organization?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyzen View Post
    I just learned several 3D TV manufacturers have both agreed with the medical issues and have released lengthy warnings about their products. I give them props for that! Of course, like EULAs, nobody will read them.
    Just like they warn us before we play zelda and mario and every other harmless game that the game may give us seizures. ._. people disregard that stuff because it only affects only a few. And the few it would should already know what they can and can't do.
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    Wait, what is so funny about 3D glasses? lol. Honestly, it's just to watch a movie...so I don't really get you. <--I was reading your old post.

    I am not against 3D but the topic of this thread is to bring old films backs just to refine them in 3D, that's just milking a franchise. 3D can be execute a good experience depending the movie. But I think that it should be limited to movies though. 3D is not unhealthy but it's not good to be expose to it too long...I'm taking about games here, considering people play games for 14+ hours straight, it will really screw up your eyesight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaitou+ View Post
    I am not against 3D but the topic of this thread is to bring old films backs just to refine them in 3D, that's just milking a franchise.
    I wouldn't consider it milking quite yet really. It's a unique thing seeing as the most popular theater movies have not been IN theaters since their release back in the early 1990's. Sure if every so years the same movie but like the "extended version" blah blah blah rolled around in theaters maybe then that'd be milking it. But I'm pretty sure after it rolls out of theaters after this 3D thing you won't see it again in theaters. So it's not really milking if it only happens once after 14-16 years of not happening. It has not been in theaters for that long. Sure I can understand milking if lets say... For instance bringing the first hangover back into theaters. Since it was just released about a year or so ago. THAT would really be milking it >.> Otherwise everytime a new game comes out in a video game series but its the same as the previous with minor differences [Soul Calibur. Call of Duty. Street Fighter. Portal.] You have to call that milking. The first is nearly the same as the second.. The game play is identical you only need to experience something once. The rest is just pointless. That's your logic guys. So why not apply it to other things rather than old movies coming to light in a new way.


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    Blue, pretty much covered it but I'll go over the section directed at me. I think researchers a good place to get trustworthy information. Companies tend to be biased. If they don't provide something they tear it down if a rival does. That's business. So you have to take everything they say with a grain of salt. And you're right, they don't do the research on this stuff. But they can twist it. Companies have been twisting facts, even lying, since there where products to sell. They just want to get people to buy their stuff. And chances are, the warnings are required by law. Or like Blue said, it's one of the many warnings that just come with a product. You read it and ignore it if it doesn't effect you. But chances are if you have issues like that you tend to ask the sales rep about it before you purchase it. If you're not careful then that's your problem. And like I said, if it was as high as 60% 3D wouldn't have lasted as long as it has. 3/5 is a large demographic and they wouldn't make as much money since a good chunk of those just wouldn't see the movie as they would if it wasn't 3D and didn't cause them issues. People tend to...oh...I don't know....avoid things that cause pain and discomfort. It's only natural to do so.

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    I didn't read the rest that you said but... Just because it's a tech source doesn't mean it's unbiased and reliable. IE: IGN.com.... Your teacher never taught you that any internet source can promptly have misleading information unless it's educational. Governmental. or a well trusted organization?
    So if you didn't read it how can you comment? Those aren't the only sources I read but I didn't feel the need to list them all. I also consulted some medical papers released by the study groups that evaluated the information. It was only of cursory interest to me so I had no interest in devoting weeks of study about it. I have other interests. My involvement with this was to educate myself about the 3D technology and issues around it.

    I went through a similar evaluation when the mp3 format was first introduced. With that, because I do love audio, I went into researching it so far as to do waveform analysis comparisons of audio sweeps and music samples compared to analog and WAV digital formats as represented after analog conversion. I won't bore you with the techno-babble about compression, harmonics, etc. Suffice it to say that mp3 is like the microwave food of the audio world, yet it made little difference on its wide adoption. But if all you ever had is microwave food you have no idea what you are missing by never having scratch prepared, home cooking with all fresh ingerdients. The mp3 format lacks in fully reproducing music although it's more noticable with some styles than others. But, this second rate format was promoted as a desirable optional feature for a number of automotive audio systems because it became a buzz-word and people get this idea that anything "sciency" sounding and high techish is better. And if Lincoln/Audi/Cadillac/BMW etal say it's wonderful- who are you going to believe? If you are average, whatever advertising tells you to believe especially if you don't have the background to call BS on it.

    Your comment about the validity of information from the Internet is a perfect example of that phenomenom- people believe anything that comes from the space-magic of the Internet just HAS to be true! Surely don't believe what you wrote here about truth/validity: "... unless it's educational. Governmental. or a well trusted organization..." ? You really don't think that governments ever lie? That educational information is always true and complete? That just because something or someone is a "well respected source" that what he/she/it says is true? Those and a couple others are the first to lie to you! I must assume you are still fairly young if those things are still truths in your world. I assure you that you will learn that you are the only person you will ever meet whose honesty you can count on. Even then, with enough effort you can lie to yourself as easily and completely as any other person or entity. I hope you never betray that trust to yourself because there are times you will be the only person you can count on. You can lie to your parents, the police, your pastor, your friends, your significant other but never, ever lie to yourself.

    Back on track- Like microwave food, mp3 does have it's place and I do use my portable player on occasion, but for real audio listening my main system is my only choice. I figured mp3 would catch on for its convenience but it has about totally supplanted traditional audio which I never thought it would. Why? because it was marketed for its IMAGE rather than how well it performed the job it was supposed to do. So many of the people whose sole interaction with an audio experience was with their portable music players and ear buds will never know what their favorite music really sounds like. Long way round, that "How well does it actually perform?" question was what raised my eyebrows about 3D TV to begin with. Is it really better? Does it really provide a better viewing experience? I don't think so, but the masses can be convinced many actual compromises are a step forward if their self-image and self-worth is enhanced by the adoption of the new meme.

    You are correct that the wider the the scope of sources and the more of them it's easier to come to a valid comclusion about an issue. I know you don't know me from the man in the moon but I tend to do my homework before I take a stand and I don't speak on things I don't know anything about as if I did understand them. I find no shame or dishonor in saying "I don't know" and/or "I was wrong". My family and friends use me as an advisor often on purchases of things like entertainment equipment and computers. I'm also a pretty damn good motorcycle wrench spinner and builder. Gotta have that balance in all things!

    As to what my teachers taught me, when I was in high school the Internet was still over 25 years away before the early days of its public adoption when some of the big ISP players were Prodigy, AOL, Compuserve and all there was were dial-up ISPs. When I first started on my computer career I worked on straight digital logic without microprocessors, troubleshooting and repairing to the chip level, rebuilding systems for resale as well as doing national field service work. I remember the days of 8K core memory boards that were 18 1/2" X 16" in size and when a computer with 16K of memory was considered powerful. I worked with and on, ASR 33 teletype terminals that were the computer interfaces and with punch tape readers to load software. I remember 8" floppy disks, dumb terminals (no processing power, just a CRT and a keyboard), stacked Z-80 and 8080 microprocessors to fake 16 bit bus architecture, the revolutionary 68000 series microprocessors, programming in machine language, COBOL, FORTRAN, eased 6800, excess 3, and other quite quaint stuff by today's standards. I had a 16 platter 150 MB hard drive in my electronics lab that cost the company about $45,000.00. I can still do Boolean Algebra, process math functions in Hex, Octal, and other numbering systems. I just spent half the price of a mid size car on a new computer to do my recreational work. The point is I'm not exactly a Johnny-come-Lately to the Internet and computing. Education has been ongoing my entire life be it just single courses to full programs. If you meant to imply I was less than stellar in school and didn't get my lessons, despite being a bad boy in school, I did very well in it. (I grew up in New York and took regents level courses throughout) I completed an accelerated 4 year degree program in just under 2 years. As an adult and a professional I stayed a long haired, bearded biker because I was smart enough and good enough at what I did that people had to get over the package to get to what was inside. Knowledge truly is power. I don't intend to sound arrogant or look like I'm patting myself on the back. I'm not. I don't have anything to prove or to gain at this stage in my life. I already made it and I retired in my early fifties.

    The only reason I am even saying this is because I hope if you get a glimpse of who/what I am you will use the intelligence you obviously have to at least hear me out and weigh my words before you blow them off.

    Or you can blow them off. My life will continue on the same vector either way as will yours! ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661 View Post
    Just like they warn us before we play zelda and mario and every other harmless game that the game may give us seizures. ._. people disregard that stuff because it only affects only a few. And the few it would should already know what they can and can't do.
    And it happened- the warnings that is- only AFTER siezures were brought on by visual effects, primarily flashing or changing colors operating at a specific frequency. The companies tried long and hard to absolve themselves of any responsibility. Personally, I don't think it was known that certain stimuli like that could trigger siezures were present in games so I don't view it as negligence on their part. Once it was determined they issued warnings which was the right thing to do. I have friends who have Epilepsy and one couple I know has a child who has it. It's bad business, believe me. If you had any first hand experience with it, and I hope you never do, you wouldn't be so flippant about the assuming the ones who do suffer from it know everything they should and shouldn't do. The kid was almost 11 before the first symptoms hit and one of the adults was in his 30s when his first seizure happened. The dangers of not knowing the risks far outweigh the inconvenience of game publishers having to include the warning.
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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?


    Were did all of my posts in this thread go? :S

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    Default Re: 3-D bringing old films back into their glory days?

    So ten dollars USD for those 2D glasses or I could just grab the pairs I forgot to "drop off" to be re-used and make my own. Or just watch the movie with one eye closed.

    I went and seen Tron: Legacy 3D. It was neat and all but a lot of detail was lost(the commercials looked better on my LD tv), I noticed exactly how much when I rewatched it on Blu-ray on my HDTV. I did get a headache and my brain did feel like a milkshake but thats not my main problem with 3D, its the fact every movie is coming out in 3D now especially if its crappy.

    Coming soon to theaters: Clerks 3D, a plotless, boring, romantic comedy movie with no real action just people sitting there and the stuff they are holding is coming right at you. Only at IMAX theaters. (for the love of god, I hope Kevin Smith doesn't make this come true...)

    EDIT: And if I already own a movie, and they redo/touch up/edit older movies I'll just wait until it comes out on Blu-Ray (most of the time they either have a 2d version in it, or it is just 2d) and pirate it. No sense in paying for the same thing twice and expecting different results. Like my digital back ups of Star Wars, and my old old VHS versions.
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