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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    @NaokoElric2250is butterhurt....Case and point. If you are going to complain about this, stop reading manga and watching Anime altogether.


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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    I'm just gonna get petty and leave this here.


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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    Why so? It is because I write without beng lazy and using contraction? I mean, I do not mind people using them in speech, or writing for that matter, bu I just feel it is a rather lazy.[COLOR="Silver"]
    I'm sorry but you seem to be a very un-intelligent person with a lack of any logic whatsoever. what you just said made absolutely no sense whatsoever. here let me dissect what i just quoted to make it understandable for you.

    "Why so? It is because I write without beng lazy and using contraction? I mean, I do not mind people using them in speech, or writing for that matter, bu I just feel it is a rather lazy."

    this phrase should look like this : "How come (previous way you said it sounded weird)? Is it (the way it was before made absolutely no sense) because I write without being lazy and using contractions (plural my friend plural)? I mean, I do not mind people using them when they talk (the way you said it before again sounded quite odd), or writing for that matter, but (you forgot the t) I just feel it is rather lazy.

    I usually am not a grammar nazi. I just prefer to be able to understand what people say without re-reading it numerous times.
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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    First of all.. no one.. Woman OR Man.. could defeat wrath in a convincing way in brotherhood. He was just that badass. Scar got lucky.. and I mean VERY LUCKY. Split millisecond lucky.

    Also, I recommend that you watch Claymore. You will be one happy camper once you do.
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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    Olivier Armstrong is strong as fronk.
    Winry is strong both emotionally and physically.
    And have you seen her grandmother.

    Go ACTUALLY read some FMA.


    Naruto: Sakura is Super Sayian level strong. as is Tsunade. Both are intelligent too. (Sakura pretty much aced then Chunin written test.)
    Ohhhhhhh and the Current Mizukage. Yeeeaaahhhhhh, that be a female.
    Have you seen her?

    I suggest you stop here.
    I spent my childhood reading them.
    You're going to lose this.

    I'm guessing you rode the short bus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    Why so? It is because I write without beng lazy and using contraction? I mean, I do not mind people using them in speech, or writing for that matter, bu I just feel it is a rather lazy.
    That didn't help your argument, especially this point:

    "These female characters are almost always ditzy...air-headed..."
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    Lol, u all mad?

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    Hey foxy, I noticed that anime chick genie you got in your avatar and sig. She's really hot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amblifier View Post
    Lol, u all mad?
    Nope, well maybe Blue is, but I'm just amused. And There's nothing lazy about contractions. They're there to make it easier on the person speaking and writing it. And Amb, I think you forgot the sandwich.

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    Sorry. I'll get back to the kitchen now. v_v

    Quote Originally Posted by Animedude5555 View Post
    Hey foxy, I noticed that anime chick genie you got in your avatar and sig. She's really hot!

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    Oh sweetie, did you get tired of the Butthurt Brigade calling you on your crap on Deviant Art, and try to push it here as well look for sympathy?

    Grow up sugar pie. And make me a samich!
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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    I can't tell if you're reading too far between lines that are not there and assuming meaning where there is none, or if you're just baiting.

    "The color fades along the intervals I follow."

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    I am not ‘butthurt’. You cannot say how I feel. Only I am capable of doing that, as only I am capable of controlling my own emotions. And vise versa for that matter.
    You are the butthurt ones as you cannot take someone criticizing your precious manga, which is just hilarious and pathetic. Really, almost every comment here and on DA caused me to snigger at its pure arrogance and lack of intelligent thought.

    I am simply amused about how stupid you all are. I am clearly more smart and insightful that all of you as none of you will even bother to see from my point as view as you are ignorant, blind fan-girls/fan-boys. I do hate fan-girls and fan-boys. They are some of the biggest idiots on the internet.

    Winry is strong both emotionally and physically.
    AHAHAHA *ten minutes later* HAHAHAAAAA! That is one of the most stupid, retarded things I have ever heard from a blind FMA fan-girl/fan-boy. She is one of most pathetic, weak, feminine, and insults to woman in the entire manga.

    I have read the manga as have the other people I have mentioned. Why not speak of their opinions instead of all jumping on me. Are you afriad to see that I am not the only to see the truth?

    Do stop with the kitchen jokes. They are most immature, and do not effect me in the slightest as I know how pathetic and over-used they are.

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    For the "Naruto" comment, I have this, by Tox-chan:

    You've entered my territorium... this is a rant I posted on my livejournal last summer:

    Naruto was the first anime I ever watched. Sure, when Sailor Moon and Beyblade aired in Sweden they were my favourite shows as a kid, but I never knew they were anime or anything, so Naruto was the first anime which I knew was an anime, and watched in Japanese (with English subs of course). One Piece was my first manga.

    I started to watch Naruto three years ago I think... Or two and a half, it was the fall 2006. I admit that I was a Sasuke fangirl and totally in love with the show.

    When my sister and I who watched it together got to the point were we had to wait every week for the episode we chose to read the manga also. This was in the beginning of 2007, and soon I had read all of the chapters as well. It was soon after that when I watched Naruto AMVs I came across some Naruto vs Bleach videos and was tempted to try that manga as well, which I did and now Bleach is my favourite manga. Naruto became duller, more boring and immature than before so even if I read it every week I don't really like it anymore.

    Something I love about Bleach is that regardless how sexist some of the females are drawn (Harribel's release anyone?) it still contains flat-chests (Rukia for example) and unlike some anime (Naruto for example) this isn't really a big deal. The characters don't care whether they fight a guy or a girl, they take everything seriously. Nnoitra that sexist bastard was proven wrong and shown that girls can kick donkey too so all is good.

    I just love Bleach for all the different female and strong characters, but mostly because it's not made a big deal of. They're women but they're also fighters, there's no one going "girls can't do that" and this is so refreshing. Sure, the captain of the relief squad is a (awesome) woman but so is the captain of the assassin squad. So even with somewhat girly Orihime it's okay, because I love her and they don't go "she's not a fighter because she's a woman", she's only not a fighter because of her personality, like Hanatarou for example. Keigo is also a weak coward, along with Omaeda but this is not because they're guys, it's just because they're that kind of characters. In my opinion a good character is a character which would work as a guy or as a girl, and I think most Bleach characters could. Kenpachi would still kick donkey even as a woman and Byakuya would still be a lady.

    Now, moving on to Naruto, this manga/anime is VERY different than Bleach. I'll go through each female character worth mentioning and tell you what I mean exactly.

    Sakura, our "heroine" (what a joke) is the stereotypical girly girl complete with a ninjadress, pink hair and a crush on the cool guy. When Kakashi is first introduced he notes that "girls in her age think more about love than ninjutsu"... what the hell kind of statement is that? It makes me so angry and I feel it's so damn unnecessary to say that and have Sakura in love with Sasuke. Also, if you train to become a ninja then why the hell do you care about your looks or love, it makes no sense. We see that the village has normal jobs, if you're a pussy you shouldn't be a ninja.

    Anyway, Sakura is also violent. It's so funny to watch women beat up the main character, isn't it? Natsumi (who I love for being so damn evil) from Keroro Gunsou, Nami (a character I like but who is sexist) from One Piece, Rukia (to her credit Ichigo beats her up too so it's equal) from Bleach and Winry (who I have no opinion on) from FullMetal Alchemist all do it too, I don't know why this is, but we can easily say that it's a "girl" trait in shonen manga. So being a stereotype of course Sakura beats Naruto up.

    Naruto is by the way in love with Sakura, because he finds her pretty.

    Sakura is the weakest of her team, and is unable to do pretty much anything in Part One, only fainting again and again. However, like most weak female characters, she's at least smarter than the guys. You know, like Bulma from Dragonball and Nami and Robin from One Piece. This doesn't stop her from being annoying and pathetic.

    Sakura is however a character who develops, the first step being cutting of her long hair. She gets her donkey handed to her and later gets rescued but that's besides the point. She tried to be stronger, and that's at least something.

    When fighting her rival in love Ino she gets a flashback from the days when she was in the ninja academy. Apparently the FEMALE ninja were taught to pick flowers and do girly stuff (shoot me). Why they train ninja to be girly I have no idea.

    Anyway, Ino was Sakura's best friend until they both fell in love with the same guy (Sasuke) causing their friendship to end. Yeah, they decided childish crushes was more important than friendship, choosing the guy over the girl... I know no one who would act like that. It's stupid and indicated she only did this because she's a woman.

    The rest of what Sakura does is pretty much cheering on her guy teammates and getting rescued. She relies on others and never do anything herself, and she has more cry scenes than talk scenes.

    In Shippuuden Sakura has trained under Tsunade and is now stronger physically (but she doesn't have big muscles, that wouldn't look good, she's just super-strong) and can heal people. Since she's a healer she is often told to stand back when fighting so that she won't get hurt. I wonder how things would go if Naruto was the one being trained to be a med-ninja...

    Sakura does some good things, like actually fighting, in Shippuuden, but is ultimately left out when male characters take bigger space.

    The next character is Ino, who I've already talked about a bit. She is described as a blonde bimbo and in the guide book her hobby is said to be "shopping" of course. She also works part time at her parents flower shop. Ino has the bossy personality many girl characters possess in anime. To put it simple, Ino is an even worse stereotype than Sakura though I have to admit Ino is a bit tougher and less annoying. Oh, she is the one in her group (of only guys) who can heal people.


    Hinata is a girl who is in love with Naruto. She is the stereotype shy girl who's whole character resolves around Naruto and Naruto only. She's weak, worries all the time and is the caring on in her group.

    Kurenai is the only female sensei but is displayed as the weakest of the four (Gai, Kakashi and Asuma). She fight with illusions which are easily countered. Kurenai is also engaged to Asuma and carries his child, because female characters usually have one or two possible guys you can pair them up with.

    The next girl character is Tenten, and is the character with almost no personality whatsoever. Tenten is the weakest in her group of course, and the one who seems to notice when anyone is injured like any caring girl character. Her philosophy (according to the guide book) is that a female is as strong as a male... that a book needs to say that pretty much proves this isn't something you notice in the manga.

    Temari is a girl character I like, she's strong and intelligent. When she fights with Shikamaru however he points out he doesn't want to fight a girl and this makes me real angry. You shouldn't need to point out the gender of the person you fight, as a ninja no less this shouldn't make a difference. Temari is also easily paired off with Shikamaru seeing she also has the bossy personality that is so typical girly.

    Tayuya and Kin are probably the best female characters in Naruto, though Kin is admitted to be the weakest as well as only the female ninja of her team. Tayuya is destroyed by fighting Shikamaru who notes she's female, and being scolded by a teammate for swearing. "A girl shouldn't curse"... frelling stupid manga.

    Konan is the only female Akatsuki member, but she dissapoints. Not only is she an "angel" while her partner (male) is a "god" but her whole reason to do anything is him. He is all her motivation, she's extremely dependant. Was also the caring one of her team.

    Rin was a girl from Kakashi's childhood team. She was a med-ninja.

    Tsunade is the logical next character to mention. She is strong, independant, intelligent and hot.... Her boobs rival those of Rangiku from Bleach. The only problem is she's 53 years old. Unlike the male elders she disguises herself so that she looks 20. Why? Because you can't have a strong female character who's not hot of course!

    Tsunade's problem is that she's just an older version of Sakura, complete with beating up former teammate Jiraiya who was pretty much like Naruto.

    Oh, and how could I forget Karin. She's in Sasuke's new team and has the hots for him. She's an extreme fangirl.

    Naruto's cast of female characters is pathetic and saddening. Although a lot of manga have these traits (One Piece, Dragonball) Naruto have most viewers of both sexes. It speaks badly to young girls who watch it, and I feel somewhat relief it isn't a big hit in Sweden as it is in USA... yet.

    Anyway, I just felt like ranting about that and how much it annoys me, seeing I've never come across anyone who's been discussing this before. That might be because I don't usually go to forums, but ah well. So yes, Naruto is sexist. If anyone disagrees, I'm free to debate.
    Oh, and this rant is old. I forgot Anko, who is the best female character. The ONLY good female character. Says something about Naruto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    I am not ‘butthurt’. You cannot say how I feel. Only I am capable of doing that, as only I am capable of controlling my own emotions.
    You are the butthurt ones as you cannot take someone criticizing your precious manga, which is just hilarious and pathetic. Really, almost every comment here and on DA caused to snigger at its pure arrogance and lack of intelligent thought.

    I am simply amused about how stupid you all are. I a clearly more smart and insightful that all of you as none of you will even bother to see from my point as view as you ignorant, blind fan-girls/fan-boys. I do hate fan-girls and fan-boys. They are some of the biggest idiots on the internet.
    Sure, that's a good route to go. Insult the people here as stupid. So you say we can't say how you feel. Well, that's kinda hypocritical since that's what you're trying to do with that comment by calling us stupid for disagreeing with you.

    AHAHAHA *ten minutes later* HAHAHAAAAA! That is one of the most stupid, retarded things I have ever heard from a blind FMA fan-girl/fan-boy. She is one of most pathetic, weak, feminine, and insults to woman in the entire manga.

    I have read the manga as have the other people I have mentioned. Why not speak of their opinions instead of all jumping on me. Are you afriadto see that /I a not the only to see the truth?

    Do stop with the kitchen jokes. They are most immature, and do not effect me in the slightest as I know how pathetic and over-used they are.

    ---------- Post added at 02:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:47 PM ----------

    For the "Naruto" comment, I have this, by Tox-chan:
    You keep claiming she's a weak character but by your own words you said she got her self out of a bad situation. How is that being weak. And I'm gonna ignore the new rant since it's off topic and you ignored my last rebuttal and quite blatantly so.

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    My my that is certainly one long rant it took me a while to get threw it.
    It must have taken a while to write I give you an A for effort but a D for substance there are so many things to talk about here that I don’t know where to start so I will just say this when I watched FMA I was always impressed by Winry's strength it takes a lot of strength both mentally and physically to do half of the things she did in that anime. The moments in the anime where you would call her weak I saw strength. It is unbelievably hard to watch as someone you love go and put himself/herself into harms way and then let them go and do what must be done. (I know this to be a fact my little bro. is a marine and has almost died on multiple occasions I worry every day) And can you tell me that you wouldn’t shoot your parents murder when he is staring you in the face and instead forgive him. No I do not believe for a second that Winry was a sexiest character hell in my opinion she is one of the strongest characters in the anime.

    Though in some instances I can see your side of the argument but I do believe you are looking into things that are not there or just twisting the meaning of them to suit your way of thinking it's a common thing to do when ones mind is made up on a subject. Strength can be found in even the darkest of situations one need only have an open mind and look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meteorkeeper View Post
    My my that is certainly one long rant it took me a while to get threw it.
    It must have taken a while to write I give you an A for effort but a D for substance there are so many things to talk about here that I don’t know where to start so I will just say this when I watched FMA I was always impressed by Winry's strength it takes a lot of strength both mentally and physically to do half of the things she did in that anime. The moments in the anime where you would call her weak I saw strength. It is unbelievably hard to watch as someone you love go and put himself/herself into harms way and then let them go and do what must be done. (I know this to be a fact my little bro. is a marine and has almost died on multiple occasions I worry every day) And can you tell me that you wouldn’t shoot your parents murder when he is staring you in the face and instead forgive him. No I do not believe for a second that Winry was a sexiest character hell in my opinion she is one of the strongest characters in the anime.

    Though in some instances I can see your side of the argument but I do believe you are looking into things that are not there or just twisting the meaning of them to suit your way of thinking it's a common thing to do when ones mind is made up on a subject. Strength can be found in even the darkest of situations one need only have an open mind and look.
    First of all, thank for responding in a non-flaming way evn tough you disagree.
    Well, at least a "D" is better than an "F".
    Well, what you just said further shows a message I am trying to get through to the blind flamers of DA and here: Interpretation.
    You interoperate it one way, I in another.
    The main one I would like to talk about is the gun scene. I would feel Winry was strong were she not have been crying (therefore showing weakness in front of your enemy, which is about the worst thing you can do in front of said enemy) falling feebly to her knees, having Edward protect her, and just sitting there uselessly afterwards.
    To me, the strongest woman are Izumi and Olivier. They are real woman, despite Izumi's status as a housewife. They are brave, strong, powerful, and do not take anything
    I really do not mind if people disagree, I honestly do not. It is just the people who are rude, narrow-minded, people who cannot accept that someone could have criticisms about their previous manga (or their favourite/liked series) such as all the people above you and most over on Deviantart.

    ---------- Post added at 10:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 PM ----------

    Oh, what is your opinion on what the other people have said?
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    Probably gonna be ignored like my other posts but meh.
    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    First of all, thank for responding in a non-flaming way evn tough you disagree.
    Well, at least a "D" is better than an "F".
    Well, what you just said further shows a message I am trying to get through to the blind flamers of DA and here: Interpretation.
    You interoperate it one way, I in another.
    The main one I would like to talk about is the gun scene. I would feel Winry was strong were she not have been crying (therefore showing weakness in front of your enemy, which is about the worst thing you can do in front of said enemy) falling feebly to her knees, having Edward protect her, and just sitting there uselessly afterwards.
    To me, the strongest woman are Izumi and Olivier. They are real woman, despite Izumi's status as a housewife. They are brave, strong, powerful, and do not take anything
    I really do not mind if people disagree, I honestly do not. It is just the people who are rude, narrow-minded, people who cannot accept that someone could have criticisms about their previous manga (or their favourite/liked series) such as all the people above you and most over on Deviantart.

    ---------- Post added at 10:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 PM ----------

    Oh, what is your opinion on what the other people have said?
    You seem to think everyone is narrow minded if they disagree with you. You even seem to ignore responses that go against yours. Yes, I got on you in my first post. But I never disrespected you till the pic. I just simply can't stand people who are so adamantly for a double standard. Personally, I'd like to see your take on movies like Snow White or Princess Bride. You're just looking too much into it. There's no sexism here outside of a few jokes. Which are intentional and as such done for amusement. And if you have issues with such things I recommend stepping as far away as possible from any form of comedy. Like I said, you can't be sexist towards your own gender. That just doesn't make sense. And, chances are Meteor agrees with the rest of the forum since he spoke out against you.

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    Fma time period is centered around the 1900s
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fullmet...ist#Production

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    NaokoElric: You seem to think that characters that exude obvious femininity are weak, sexist, annoying, or not "real" women.
    I just don't get that logic.

    The moment a character becomes girly at some point, is the point you start to rant about them.
    So what if Sakura from Naruto isn't as strong as the boys? She has other avenues that can take her up on par with the fellas, namely her intelligence and wits. That alone can set her up a candidacy among real women.

    SO WHAT if Hinata is a shy, caring girl? Does that make her weak? Last time I checked, she had a determined attitude in combat along with a no-giving up mentality. She does get injured, but Naruto, Sasuke, and even Lady Tsunade get injured once in while as well. It's all part of being a ninja.
    Sure when Hinata fights, she is somewhat doing it for Naruto. You may call this dependence, which is okay, because I see it as that as well. But I also see it as reinforcement during crucial and dangerous times. After all, alot of male characters think about the girl they love to get a boost of fighting spirit. This negates the notion that if a girl is dependent, that automatically makes them a burden.

    Winry is not pathetic. Edward is dependent on her to maintain his automail arm. Winry may not know much about alchemy, but even out the playing field, Ed doesn't know jack about automail mechanics. Winry is doing a job that is meant for males.. I think her character is balanced well enough.

    Riza. Okay she has all the resources necessary to move up the ranks and perhaps get close to the Fuhrer. But she remains by Mustang simply because she wants to. Mustang is special to her. If he was just another guy to her, I betcha 5 bucks Riza would try to take his position. Then again, I might just lose that 5 bucks because I get the feeling that Riza doesn't care about power or influence. Well thats just a hunch on my part.

    About Izumi. Yes she is an awesome woman.. but the house wife part could have been left out. Being a house wife isn't sexist, it's a choice.

    I will say this though: I respect your opinions, as anime (as well as most things) is open for interpretation and criticisms. But let me point out.. if a girl acts or looks girly, that does not mean squat-diddle. They can be better than the guys using any gifts/resources they have and acquired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    Next, I cannot stand feminine woman. Prancing around in skirts and dresses, being obsessed with appearance, sometimes the colour pink and being a downright pansy. Urg. Those are not real woman. Real woman are tough and did sink into the stereotypical behaviours, dress code and attitudes of feminine woman.
    I am throughly offended. You must be some big cow who can't fit into skirts and dresses. Who wears nothing but black clothes and make-up like a rainbow threw up on you. So I'll offend you right back. You just said that I was not a real woman. My whole wardrobe consist of pink. I own more skirts and shoes than you probably would know what to deal with. I think this whole rant is you being jealous and forcing only real woman are strong. But what you are putting forth is a minority. and "strong women" are creepy as heck.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    Being a housewife is a waste of time, even if one is as awesome as Izumi. Cooking and cleaning around the house are done when necessary, the same goes for popping down to the supermarket, they are not ‘jobs’

    I imagine no food in your fridge except a stack of twinkies. Dishes pots and pans all over your kitchen counter. Only to be cleaned when needed again. And the use of the same pair of pants 3 or more times until you get around to cleaning them. I'm a girl. I like cleaning I like nice clothes. I care about how I look.
    I like to cook. It dang sure doesn't mean I'm not a "real" girl. Sure I fit into the sterotype but so what. I'm as real as I can get. I'll put you in your place. I'll hang out with the guys and go race cars. Roll around in the mudd and have a good time. I cry when my feelings are hurt. I can't lift anything more than my own weight.

    But you are just pathetic and need to get a life. PS. you don't know what fanservice is...

    THIS... is fanservice.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    First of all, I did not write the “Naruto” rant. I even stated that.

    Next, I cannot stand feminine woman. Prancing around in skirts and dresses, being obsessed with appearance, sometimes the colour pink and being a downright pansy. Urg. Those are not real woman. Real woman are tough and did sink into the stereotypical behaviours, dress code and attitudes of feminine woman.
    Um, since when? I've met women exactly like that and I've met woman who are in the middle. In fact, I'd put most women in the middle. Sorry, but that's just so...so...



    Well, I think she is. Her skill are only used to serve her male friend, and to drag her away from the main plot. She still a “healer type” since she repairs flesh (almost). Not forgetting her slutty wardrobe of tube tops and mini-skirts. We know she owns several shirts, jeans, tank tops and the like. Why could Arakawa have not put her in them and give her a tank top with the jumpsuit? Oh, wait, I know why: FANSERICE. And I thought a woman would know better *shakes head*.
    This is fan service:



    What you described is a simple outfit and doesn't have to be slutty.



    Doesn't really show any more cleavage then if it had shoulder straps on it.


    Yeah, but that does not mean she should serve him like a slave and think he can do a better job than her.
    Just a personality trait. Plenty of people think like that. Male or Female.

    Being a housewife is a waste of time, even if one is as awesome as Izumi. Cooking and cleaning around the house are done when necessary, the same goes for popping down to the supermarket, they are not ‘jobs’.
    Some woman like being housewives. There's nothing wrong with it. Again, falls under personality.

    Well, thank you . To me, it does. It means you are conforming to stereotypes, and showing everyone what they expect to say. Not to mention most are either pathetic, crybaby wimps (like Winry) who do mind being bossed around. They are not real woman to me. Real woman are intelligent, tough and willing to stand up for themselves. I do love intelliget people more than voilent people though, but Sakura and Winry are complete complete ditzes.
    Again I refer you to Homer. Not everyone is strong willed. Yes, there are stereotypes, yes people fall into them. But here's a kicker. In a story there's archetypes. And every character in a story falls into an archetype. Chances are Izumi happens to fit into the house wife archetype. Really you just need to do the following:


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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    Holy balls. How do you expect anyone to read all of that?

    Japan is a sexually repressed country, so it makes sense that most of their animation and manga would reflect that. It's an art form.

    Also, if you want to have a legitimate argument about it, you need to shorten your initial post to oh ... something that's not 45 pages long. That will help. Or not, if your original argument sucks anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250
    First of all, I did not write the “Naruto” rant. I even stated that.

    Next, I cannot stand feminine woman. Prancing around in skirts and dresses, being obsessed with appearance, sometimes the colour pink and being a downright pansy. Urg. Those are not real woman. Real woman are tough and did sink into the stereotypical behaviours, dress code and attitudes of feminine woman.
    also, lels. You don't want to date women who act like the percieved gender role? that's fine, but you can't fault those women for the fact that society fosters that role and then has women play it.

    Also, you can't really say that a woman in the traditional gender role isn't a "real" woman, because that's ridiculous. What constitutes a "real" woman or man anyway? I really dislike that kind of gender shaming. If you want to date a woman who acts like a man, those types are out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by blueangel06661
    and "strong women" are creepy as heck.
    I thoroughly disagree, unless their name is Helga and they look like they could crush you just by looking at you.
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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    uhh... man, the OP post is looooonnnngggg! I didn't bother to read much of it...

    well anyway, Fullmetal Alchemist is centered in a military setting, right? So ain't it normal to have more guy characters than female? Sure there are female soldiers but not as many as guys. I haven't seen a female ranger or green beret yet that for sure...

    in any case, it's good that you have your own opinion but it ain't cool to push it unto others, everyone has their own way of thinking.

    I, for one, don't really think it's sexist. Let's take one character, "Lust," she wears kinda revealing clothing, right? well, what do you expect? her name is "lust" afterall... when you think about it, it's right in every way.

    I ain't gonna argue, but I'm just asking for you to stop and think first before doing something like this. It's either you're really a women's rights activist or just plain asking for trouble since a lot of people are obviously going to prove you wrong.

    Truth is a thing which only appears to those who have observed, considered, and made a choice. At the end of the path you chose lies the truth...Believe in it and continue without faltering.

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    I was done with this argument a while ago after realizing you are very stupid and your opinion doesn't matter and isn't valid in the slightest therefore your lack of validity in your argument has caused me to completely ignore you.

    this , howevver, cought my attention and made me laugh hysterically

    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    Really, almost every comment here and on DA caused me to snigger at its pure arrogance and lack of intelligent thought.

    I am simply amused about how stupid you all are. I am clearly more smart and insightful that all of you as none of you will even bother to see from my point as view as you are ignorant, blind fan-girls/fan-boys.
    LOL omg omg, i think i need a tissue. just that's freaking hilarious. you do realize that that is EXACTLY what me, and everyone else here thinks about you right?

    btw arrogance is alright if its just confidence in being correct. Think for a second (if you have to wait til your done pms'in thats fine) we are all giving intelligent and valid arguments (aside from a bit of trolling that can be helped as you baited us into it) and you are the lone person who is standing alone. guess why your alone. because your wrong.
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