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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    tl;dr.

    I don't even think you know what sexist is.

    Even so. Who cares go watch something else then. Oh.. and btw? Why are you on an anime forum? Get back in the kitchen already



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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    i read the first two or three paragraphs. basically, stop complaining about the series if you don't like it. just don't watch it.

    guess what It's an ACTION, anime/manga. And guess which gender is associated with with strength? MEN. (and that's not sexist thats a fact. If you think that's sexist then i guess me saying chicks have boobs is sexist)

    btw look at lust, sloth, and Armstrong's older sister (whose name has left my mind)

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    And it's just a copy/paste of what you wrote here.......

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    Do you expect people to read all that? Also, a lot of anime are racist but yet people don't complain or type up a huge wall of text of a rant.

    @36gamer has it right but at the same time he is wrong..I mean women can be as strong as men, but they making women the weaker sex is not sexist at all.

    EDIT: If is her own writing then I don't think it's something we can use against her. It doesn't matter if you she posted it elsewhere. AF doesn't always need 100% original threads...
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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    Plus you have to take in consideration of the time period it's slightly based in. :| Not all men/woman were treated as equals back then. Women WERE expected to have house duties. It's not really sexist it's just how it was back then. Nothing to rant about. Can't change history.

    Why don't you write up a while rant about the male sexist part. Ed and Al are portrayed as strong. OH NO! THATS SEXIST! Not all men are strong and determined. But them and every other guy in the show is portrayed as such. Besides Winry may whine a lot but she's a mechanic. Which makes her not a sexist girl o.O???? Same with what's her face who's in the office with Roy. If it were truely sexist there'd be no women positions. fail.
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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    If one more person mensions the time period thing I am going to scream. Amestris IS NOT Earth, so do not use that excuse! And how on earh is making woman the weaker sex anyting BUT sexist?
    I said I like the series! Just not these things in it. Alphonse is my favourite character as he is a fair combination of badass and cute...unlike the rest of the male characters.

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    Oh, and I will somone would repond to what other people have said instead of just me, that was the whole reason I added them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    If one more person mensions the time period thing I am going scream. Amestris IS NOT Earth, so do not use that excuse! And how on earh is making woman the weaker sex anyting BUT sexist?
    I said I like the series! Just not these things in it.
    It's not sexist at all, like I said, women can be a strong as men if they work for it but making them the weaker sex is not abnormal nor sexist. I don't really understand why are you so into this, it doesn't really matter much anyways.


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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    You have a serious frelling problem, it is one of the most sexist things you can do. And I do not whether it matter or not. This is not the only think I am here for (I mainly came here for CCS) but since someone told me to out this on a forum, so I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    If one more person mensions the time period thing I am going scream. Amestris IS NOT Earth, so do not use that excuse! And how on earh is making woman the weaker sex anyting BUT sexist?
    ......... please go crawl under a rock. :| and so what who cares it's just a TV show. :| and quite frankly woman are the weaker sex. It's just our body structure. Why do you think they don't let woman be on the front line in the army? Or on professional football teams. etc. etc. etc.

    I said I like the series! Just not these things in it.
    .... Well if you have enough time to write a book about them.. Then I don't think you like it very much...

    Oh, and I will somone would repond to what other people have said instead of just me, that was the whole reason I added them.
    Why we all agree with your stupidity towards sexism. and that your original post was waaaaaaaay too long.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    You have a serious frelling problem, it is one of the most sexist things you can do. And I do not whether it matter or not. This is not the only think I am here for (I mainly came here for CCS) but since someone told me to out this on a forum, so I did.

    You can check that out too.

    (what IS that thing that is in the middle of my sentence?)
    first of all your grammar is very hard to understand and i can't take you seriously.

    second of all the fact that men (for the most part, like Kaitou+ some women are stronger than some one) in general are physically stronger than women. How is it sexist to point out the differences between men and women? women are generally (again I am saying generally) more affectionate and understanding than males. is this sexist towards males? no it's just stating the strengths that one gender has over the other.

    women have strengths over guys and guys have strengths over women. women have a vagina guys have a penis, see how we have differences? or are you a 3 year old girl who thinks that guys and girls are the same?

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    ..... well it's because we can't? they are natually built with bigger muscles and bones. If a really big buff football player was to run into you.. You can kiss your conscious goodbye. It's annoying overly sexist sensitive woman like you that makes me wish I wasn't a woman >.> So lame.


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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

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    If one more person mensions the time period thing I am going to scream. Amestris IS NOT Earth, so do not use that excuse! And how on earh is making woman the weaker sex anyting BUT sexist?
    I said I like the series! Just not these things in it. Alphonse is my favourite character as he is a fair combination of badass and cute...unlike the rest of the male characters.
    btw just like every single anime,movie,book, or other fictional tale that takes place in a fantasy world the attitudes displayed in the people of fma are supposed to be based or the attitudes and personalities of people irl. otherwise it would make absolutely no sense at all now would it?

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    ^That, try not to write a novel. I only skimmed it and the impression I got is you're looking too much into it. Not to mention your repeat yourself over and over. That's way too much writing for a single idea. I'll just go over a few that stuck out too me.
    AveriaAlexandros, also pointed out another sexist point is this: none of the females in FMA were fully developed. Winry's was only she had something to cry about, Riza is…plot? As for the pasts of Ran Fan and Mei Chan, we know visually nothing! Furthermore, what little development we have of Izumi is placed in a side-story!
    Um, first, Winry, didn't just cry. She either gave Ed his arm and legs or fixes them (forget which). She's known them since they where kids, an acomplished mechanic, and, as you mention later, gets herself out of tight situations. How is that reduced to simply being she's there to cry. And as for Riza, how is plot not development? And not every char is going to get a back story. They're there to fill a certain roll and that's it.

    This is not really related, but here is another thing. Lust was the only female Homunculus in the manga and she was the first be killed and Pride, the most powerful Homunculus, and the only one to survive in the end, just has to male, did it not? Because the immortal looks like a child, and has lived for hundreds of years had to be male did it not? (Anther example is Czeslaw Meyer from "Baccano!" though I do like that series. Ennis is my favourite character). Additionally, the only child of the ruler (even if it is false) has to be male as well, correct? That is so annoying!
    This is just you being pick. The Homunculus where based on different sins. Lust was female because that's what you think of when you think of that sin. Ones like Pride and Gluttony tend to instill pictures of men when you think of them. So this is just strait up crying. Not to mention, 98% of villains in any media are male. Get over it. That probably wont change anytime soon.

    Edward Elric, Alphonse Elric, Roy Mustang, Ling Yao and Slim Bradley/Pride should have been female in canon and Riza Hawkeye, Ran Fan and Mei should have been male. If the above were the canon genders, yet still have the same things happen to them in the manga (which a few necessary changes) that I did not like, with these genders the events would not be sexist. It would be more interesting, too. It would also have made "Fullmetal Alchemist" a more unique series, and I would have liked it so much more.
    I am writing fanfiction with the above gender benders, with the personalities I described, as I think this is how they would be as the opposite gender.
    So it's not sexist if the jokes where changed to apply to men? How is that NOT a double standard? You're one of those woman that think, oh, she's in a secretarial position so her boss must be sexist. Cry me a river. Woman are equal in today's society (minus a few areas like paychecks, needs to be changed). Woman can do everything a man can. What are we supposed to do, get on our knees and kiss your feet? Wait, we've always done that. I like how people like you go crying about things like this and then still expect us to do things like pay for dinners, movies, whatever on dates, and all that other jazz. I'm not buying into it. Not to mention there's the fact you can't be sexist against your OWN gender.

    EDIT: Wow, I took too long.

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    No, you just will not. Woman can do almost anything men, apart from the obivious and vise versa.
    That is why in football (soocer) woman's teams verse woman's teams.

    ---------- Post added at 02:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:50 AM ----------

    For your infomation, I get along with males better than females. Most of my friends are male. So before yiou go saying I am sexist, think about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    No, you just will not. Woman can do almost anything men, apart from the obivious and vise versa.
    That is why in football (soocer) woman's teams verse woman's teams.
    Yeah but they can't do them together. Like in football [american] a woman can't play on a mens team. Except be a kicker really. If she were to get tackled she'd be instantly killed. I've been beside a pro player. He's huge. I'm sure if he did as much as lift a finger he could pin me to the ground. Scary. :|

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    what are you even talking about? what you just said doesn't even come close to anything resembling a valid point.

    oh and btw. earlier you said some one had a serious problem for not agreeing with you. i believe the one who has opinions no one here agrees with is the one with the problem


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    GameGeeks never called you sexist. You are really overreacting about a something trivial as an anime, especially when it wasn't intended to be sexist at all.

    You really need to lighten up and stop taking things so seriously.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    No, you just will not. Woman can do almost anything men, apart from the obivious and vise versa.
    That is why in football (soocer) woman's teams verse woman's teams.

    ---------- Post added at 02:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:50 AM ----------

    For your infomation, I get along with males better than females. Most of my friends are male. So before yiou go saying I am sexist, think about that.
    Yeah, like how you completely missed the point of my post and/or ignored it.

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    I won't even attempt to refudiate your every single argument, (tl;dr.) but in short: what can you do about it? There's freedom of artistic expression, and if you don't like it, boycott it or whatever. There are plenty of other fans out there who will appreciate the work.

    You know what's scarier than sexism in anime/manga?--people who forcefully affix reality to fantasy, and apply the laws and rules of real life to works of fiction. Why don't you try ranting about the impossibility of ninja skills (namely from Naruto) or something then? Isn't that a direct violation of physics, biology, etc.?

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    I know that. As you said our structer is different.

    This is off topic, but why is it called "Football" when you mostly use your hands? Just curious. I know you kick it first, but it just seems strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    Yeah, like how you completely missed the point of my post and/or ignored it.
    Only the second part was in reponse to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaokoElric2250 View Post
    I know that. As you said our structer is different.

    This is off topic, but why is it called "Football" when you mostly use your hands? Just curious. I know you kick it first, but it just seems strange.

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    Only the second part was in reponse to you.
    Then that falls under ignoring 98% of my post.

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    Default Re: The "Fullmetal Alchemist" Manga and 2009 Anime are Sexist

    i think it had to do with it being shaped like a foot or something.

    oh and good job changing the subject since you knew you were wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by 36gamer View Post
    first of all your grammar is very hard to understand
    Why so? It is because I write without beng lazy and using contraction? I mean, I do not mind people using them in speech, or writing for that matter, bu I just feel it is a rather lazy.

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    i think it had to do with it being shaped like a foot or something.

    oh and good job changing the subject since you knew you were wrong
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