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    Default Re: AnimeForum's Declaration of Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by SKillҽⱤ View Post
    AnimeForum's community has the right to form its own nation, as does anyone capable of meeting the terms for establishing one made at the 1933 Montevideo's Convention on Rights and Duties of States.

    Article 1 of the 1933 Montevideo Convention on Rights and Duties of States defines a state as possessing a permanent population, a defined territory, a government, and the capacity to enter into relations with other states. Article 3 of the same Montevideo Convention specifically says that "the political existence of the State is independent of recognition by other States." Therefore, AnimeForum could form a country if they were willing to.
    No, it could not.

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    Default Re: AnimeForum's Declaration of Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkatex View Post
    No, it could not.
    Tell me why. A defeatist's stance is always the easiest route to take for people, so I might be able to cope with your opinion. Yeach, it's somewhat absurd, but really the only thing needed is devotion to the topic. If I put this thread on the World of Warcraft's forums or something I'm sure you'd be hearing of a 'Blizzardland' being formed the next day.

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    Default Re: AnimeForum's Declaration of Sovereignty

    You're even weirder here than you are in chat, alreadyforgotyournamepersoninthepostabove.

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    Default Re: AnimeForum's Declaration of Sovereignty

    Quote Originally Posted by SKillҽⱤ View Post
    Tell me why. A defeatist's stance is always the easiest route to take for people, so I might be able to cope with your opinion. Yeach, it's somewhat absurd, but really the only thing needed is devotion to the topic. If I put this thread on the World of Warcraft's forums or something I'm sure you'd be hearing of a 'Blizzardland' being formed the next day.
    As such, the Peace of Westphalia with its concept of Westphalian sovereignity and of territorial integrity and the Charter of the United Nations constitute the very basis of international law. According to those, an internet forum could by no means become a state. Internet related matters belong to each nation's laws on dealings with data and security.

    The law is not bendable to everyone's perception of reality. AF won't become a state.
    As such, you also already pointed out the most basic fallacies in your own argumentation. Insisting upon false assumptions, will not bring anyone further.

    In case you want to read more upon philosophy regarding state theories, consult Thomas Hobbes' Leviathan, John Locke's liberal approach in Two Treatises of Government and Jean-Jacques Rousseau's work on the social contract. This should be enough for the start.

    Later on marxist and anarchist theories might seem interesting and Weber's view on the modern state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thr...te_Rule_(book)).

    For advanced fans: institutionalism, liberal intergovernmentalism, supranationalism. Proceed to globalization and dependence theories. My recommendation on that would be Stiglitz. Certainly this could go on and on and on.

    Don't forget Kant and Hegel. For socialist theories, go for Lenin's "Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism" and for the life and works of Rosa-Luxemburg.

    I hope to have supplied enough references and starting points for your questions.
    Last edited by None of the above; 05-20-2011 at 11:04 AM.

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