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    Default How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    I mean,how do we know?
    For example, someone say that he likes her/she likes him but through a phone
    and yet, in the end..we're the one who's being deceived and heart broken
    ....
    just wondering, that's all =O


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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    There are a few sure tell signs that the person you're talking to is being dishonest . Either their nose starts growing or their pants suddenly burst into flames

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Well, you can learn a lot from watching this...

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    I know what you're up to, you're trying to trick me into admitting I stole the last cookie from the cookie jar. Well it's not going to happen buster! I was no where near that cookie jar when the last cookie was stolen and I sure as hell didn't hear nuthin about no grand cookie theft plot. Stop harassing me!
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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    When it comes to matters of the heart you don't know, but if you know this person to be a liar, then logic would tell you that they're probably lying.

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    The answer is simple: you can't.


    You can only assume through experience, though this experience can easily bias your opinion; for example, if you have been in contact with a lot of people that have turned out to be liars on a more-often-than-not basis, you will in turn be far more pessimistic towards the 'honesty' of others and far more likely to judge them as lying, whether correct or not.

    On the other hand, this can also teach you to learn the possible subtle hints a human being can give off when not speaking the whole truth. Though, this only works in face-to-face scenarios; the voice is far easier to fake than the facial and body expressions of someone intending to hide something from you.


    This is also why the Internet is serious business.
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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    You can't always trust but you can't always doubt all the time. Its not good. Just decide if you think they're honest or not yourself.
    I go with how I feel and what I know to determine the truth or lie, however I can trust people a little too easily but I don't keep my guard down. There's been some time I've been lied. It hurts like a motherf*cker!

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    The answer is simple: you can't.


    You can only assume through experience, though this experience can easily bias your opinion; for example, if you have been in contact with a lot of people that have turned out to be liars on a more-often-than-not basis, you will in turn be far more pessimistic towards the 'honesty' of others and far more likely to judge them as lying, whether correct or not.

    On the other hand, this can also teach you to learn the possible subtle hints a human being can give off when not speaking the whole truth. Though, this only works in face-to-face scenarios; the voice is far easier to fake than the facial and body expressions of someone intending to hide something from you.


    This is also why the Internet is serious business.
    Those hints are hints of nervousness, not lying. While lying may make you nervous, so may telling the truth.

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Well everyone has their own definition of interperting honestly and dishonesty.

    If someone is being dishonest they don't act like their usual self and probably try to sugar-coat the truth!

    If someone is being honest they won't have to hide anything from you. They'll tell you what you want to hear without ending up hearing another side of story from someone who has a different side of story to tell.
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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Common sense and the BS meter that goes off in your head.

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Take a moment and to think to yourself of just how much you're honest and dishonest about things.

    When all is said and done, you can never be really sure of a person's honesty or dishonesty. Bearing this in mind however, I suggest to be prepared. Don't assume past a point of certainty that you know the truth, or the whole truth as the case may be. And even then, there's always the chance that the 'truth' you once knew could easily turn into a lie. Do your best and try to be open to that possibility as much as you're able.

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    You can't. And to T.R.U.S.T. is to Totall Resist Usually Sane Thinking.
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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Sometimes you can tell by the person's body lanuage. Acting nervous while trying to tell a story they should know or moving in a certain way. We humans sometimes give out little hints with our body movements that we do without thinking.
    General Psychology taught me that

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    He said this was over the phone. Body language hardly applies.
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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    you can't, it's very much a case of jump and pray

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Usually by the tone of the voice changes when somebody isn't telling the truth and their general body language shifts subtly but to some this can be picked up on, this is how some fortune workers work actually they read the body language and manipulate them by throwing our suggestions which will prize out the customer's wanted answer.

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Easy. Buy a lie detector machine, and ask them questions to see whether they are lying or not. It works on the Maury show all the time and for Ray J and Flava Flav.

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    I suppose that would work as well or see if they are perspiring more than they have to

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Well...if you're a special CIA agent you can always force someone into a lie detector test, or conduct sequences of mass torture. However, I like to figure out things the old fashion way...not figuring them out at all. So let's all jut sit back, eat some delicious tacos and drink some carbonated beverages.

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Depends on the person.

    Most people have some kind of obvious -tell- about them that I can recognize if I've known them for at least a couple of months. Although I will admit I glaze over even that if I trust the person enough. It's getting difficult to pick out the liars lately though. I've met some really good pathological liars since I started Uni. No shame or hesitation in the least about the most serious things.

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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    The truth always prevail. One lie after another can't do anything. Either way it would be known anyways so its best to fess up and say the truth. When you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything.
    What I do is just observe, liars don't fool me they fool themselves; they fall harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    Those hints are hints of nervousness, not lying. While lying may make you nervous, so may telling the truth.
    That may be true, but the fact is that generally, people are far more likely to be lying when visibly nervous - because they're having to think of what they're having to say, how to word it in the best way and how to convey it, as well as reading the other person for the signs that they believe them.

    Whereas with the truth, you don't have that sort of 'pressure' ... usually. This is the whole point behind the 'sweating' method used by some law enforcements ... people find it more difficult to lie under pressure than they do speak the truth. >.> someone who speaks the truth has nothing to hide, really, whereas the liar will have that pressure upon him as to whether his alibis are passing or not.
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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranshiin View Post
    That may be true, but the fact is that generally, people are far more likely to be lying when visibly nervous - because they're having to think of what they're having to say, how to word it in the best way and how to convey it, as well as reading the other person for the signs that they believe them.

    Whereas with the truth, you don't have that sort of 'pressure' ... usually. This is the whole point behind the 'sweating' method used by some law enforcements ... people find it more difficult to lie under pressure than they do speak the truth. >.> someone who speaks the truth has nothing to hide, really, whereas the liar will have that pressure upon him as to whether his alibis are passing or not.
    The method has some serious flaws, though. If you pressure an innocent man, you may get a false confession. There are a lot of documented cases of this happening, especially when the suspect is a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    The method has some serious flaws, though. If you pressure an innocent man, you may get a false confession. There are a lot of documented cases of this happening, especially when the suspect is a child.
    I was talking in general sense. There are always exceptions to a rule (except Rule 34, but that's not really what's being discussed.)
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    Default Re: How do we know when people are being honest and dishonest?

    The Dhammapada quotes, "A fool who knows he is a fool is that much wiser. a fool who thinks he is wise is a fool indeed." the same can be said of relationships. The biggest mistake one can make is letting his attachments for someone or his want for a relationship distort his perception of the actual relationship itself. with that said, when in a realistic mentality, you have three options. The first two are trust or analysis. the first is more related to the rolling of dice. the second is based in making assessments based on knowledge gained from observing the person. neither path is wrong either. both may have a good or bad outcome. you must make the decision based on who you are.
    also, if you want you could simply tag along for the ride. Regardless of the outcome, loss is as much an invigorating element of life as gain. you must know one to know the other. However, that leaves a lack of control I'm not fond of. I would be classified under analysis. Anyway, I've rambled on about about this for too long. My apologies. . .

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