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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeschylus View Post
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    I'll just leave this here~
    ^ enough said

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    There, thread cleaned up. From now on behave or I'll be forced to close the thread.

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    I've used windows all of my life, my first being windows 3.1. Then 95, 98, XP and now 7 ... the first time i've ever used a mac was recently, at school, where they have these fancy, huge-screen IMacs. I'm not gonna lie, they are pretty nice looking and sleek, if not intimidating and confusing at first.

    As others have said, i'd say there are strengths to both pc's and macs, and that one isn't necessarily better than the other - it depends on what you use it for. I'm not any kind of Microsoft fangirl, but Windows 7 (at least to me), is pretty nice, and I enjoy it. I'd also enjoy having a mac one day ... when I can afford it. ^^;

    Who "wins" the "battle" is a matter of opinion.
    Last edited by Miss Electric Moonlight; 04-09-2011 at 12:17 PM.

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    I don't think Mac OS is superior. I think Mac would be better if it had shorter update cycles.
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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jewunit View Post
    Let me be the first to tell you that Mac wins this.
    Must we not define the desired work or perspective before crowning the victor?
    Mac software is specifically designed to work with the hardware already installed in their computers. Whereas Windows will work on everything and has a better chance of getting a virus or crashing.
    That Apple only has to design for their hardware does make stability easier to achieve, yes, but viruses are a matter of (1) market share, (2) design philosophy, execution and vestigial features of an OS, and (3) user behavior. Malware usually has little to do with drivers, etc.

    Unix Kernal makes it superior. People aren't familiar with it and are with IBM, therefore people create viruses for Windows because it's what they know.
    Kernel, not kernal. By the by, IBM does a lot of unix work, from AIX to Linux, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. The IBM PC, perhaps, but that's more a historical matter than of contemporary interest in itself.
    Unix-type systems have ruled computing for much, much longer than anything else, even more so a few years back. The only people who aren't familiar with the ideas of unix aren't likely to be terribly talented, knowledgeable, crafty villains of the digital age. Heck, for a while in the eighties, even Microsoft sold a unix system they called Xenix, and sold a lot of it.

    Windows (1) has market share on personal computers and (2) has a lot of vestigial features from single-user, non-networking predecessors, and doesn't handle a hostile network very well- like the Internet can be. Users tend to be gullible, imprudent tools, too, but that's true no matter the OS, because people tend to be too bold on a computer and on a network.

    For more powerful computers, like mainframes and servers, unix-type systems actually have the market share advantage over Windows, yet Windows still tends to be easier to crack open. It's just not a terrifically secure system.
    Some people believe that simple anti-virus will be enough to have Windows and Apple on the sam page, they are mistaken.
    I doubt you'll use my analogy of firewalls and prudence coupled with disabling Javascript and flash as good protection versus anti-virus as a Hail-Mary dose of penicillin, but go on.
    Macs go the extra mile in not letting you open/download viruses, whereas Windows (being able to operate on everything) will tell you to walk right in.
    I don't know what permissions scheme(s) MacOS may or may not use, so I'll leave that alone for now, but you can still do some delightfully nasty stuff with Flash or Javascript in a webpage, and I'm sure there's plenty more I just can't remember off the top of my head.


    Quote Originally Posted by Furore
    both [Linux and BSD] have smaller market shares then Windows and OSX meaning they do seem to be targeted less when it comes to malware
    Ah, but only on desktops- as far as industry reports show, anyway (but I digress). On the big, bad, beefy machines like servers, mainframes and supercomputers (link), Windows is terrifically outclassed in market share, yet Windows still gets hit by malware and exploits more often. Linux/BSD aren't really spectacular so much as Windows security and stability is shamefully bad.

     
    Slightly off topic, but if you want some fun, try explaining to an engineer of a non-software persuasion exactly what the registry is and what it does in Windows, and how it's designed. The result can be pretty awesome.
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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jewunit View Post
    I take it someone has a grudge against Apple.... Considering how you took information and completely slanted it.


    I know a lot of this comes form what's between the screen and chair.....but not all of it....
    And what you say isn't slanted or biased at all?
    Not sure if you are a troll?


    And YES ALL OF IT DOES!


    You are the kind of person that give Mac owners a bad rep.
    My advise: Stop that you pretentious person you.

    Edit: I, at one point owned a G4.
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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    Also, why does there need to be some sort of lame "battle"? there are people who enjoy using macs and PC's daily. There are people who like them both. Comparisons are fine, when people bash one system over the other, it's just pointless.

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Moonlight View Post
    Also, why does there need to be some sort of lame "battle"? there are people who enjoy using macs and PC's daily. There are people who like them both. Comparisons are fine, when people bash one system over the other, it's just pointless.
    'For me to win, you have to lose!' is an attitude that plagues far too many people. ^^;;

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    In my opinion, Mac isn't superior. For one, it hates JAR and ZIP files and won't run those little desktop things, nor will it several other widget whatchamacallits.

    My screensavers, for example, wouldn't work on their either. ( I blame Square Enix. )

    Mac might be all nice and pretty, but I prefer W7 and XP.

    ^ I'd die mentally if this became a battle and pull out immediately. >U Don't like those kinds of threads unless you're supposed to be doing it.


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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    There are advantages and disadvantages that we can comment on both Mac and Windows though I'm sure a lot of people here are more into Windows because Mac is too expensive to buy and a lot of games are compatible on Windows operating system.

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    No it isn't. There is no superior OS. It is all a matter of personal needs and preference. I personally use OS X Lion, but that doesn't make it superior to Windows 7, Symbian, ChromeOS, BSD, Gentoo, Dybian or DSL.

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    There is superiority if one looks solely at what they want from their OS and compares the ability of those available to meet their needs. Well for an individual anyway. I mean some people dislike resource hogging visuals and like the ability to have more control over every facet of their experience while others just want something pretty that has intuitive graphic based installations of their favourite commonly bought word processor and has card games preinstalled.

    The only real losers here are those that choose their OS solely on brand and run their mouths off about it with no experience of the competition.
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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    I agree that Mac OS is a virus free but it is very expensive when you will buy computer package from them and you cannot upgrade the components of the hardware too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zekes View Post
    I agree that Mac OS is a virus free but it is very expensive when you will buy computer package from them and you cannot upgrade the components of the hardware too.
    Mac isn't virus free, there's not many but it's not virus free.

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    Why I don't buy Macs:

    I don't want to have to buy a whole new computer when one piece of hardware dies.

    I'll stick to having interchangeable parts, kthx

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    Default Re: Mac OS Superior?

    PCs and macs use the same hardware, macs are more expensive, and offers a smaller range of software. Unless of course you install Windows on a Mac, then you've essentially got an overpriced PC with a Mac case.

    Also, this:

    From http://www.xkcd.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Nightmare View Post
    Why I don't buy Macs:

    I don't want to have to buy a whole new computer when one piece of hardware dies.

    I'll stick to having interchangeable parts, kthx
    There is something called warranty, also Apple Store. A 3 year warranty is more than you will ever need because who keeps a computer for more than 3 years anyway?
    Macs have interchangeable parts, I upgraded the RAM on both my Mac mini and MacBook Pro, they also have interchangeable storage, though on the unibody Mac mini it is quite an endeavor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    PCs and macs use the same hardware, macs are more expensive, and offers a smaller range of software. Unless of course you install Windows on a Mac, then you've essentially got an overpriced PC with a Mac case.

    Also, this:

    From http://www.xkcd.com/
    Macs aren't any more expensive than PCs, spec for spec, and it is sure is cheaper to upgrade the OS. Case in point, ultrabooks.
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Ultrabo...r.58818.0.html

    Either way, we are discussing software not hardware prices, I don't see how that is relevant. Also, web apps? really? you will trust everything to the web? not that most web apps aren't glorified toys...
    When discussing OSes no OS is superior, but to resort to FUD is not the proper way to carry an argument.

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    OS X Lion is as secure as it gets, look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post
    Macs aren't any more expensive than PCs, spec for spec, and it is sure is cheaper to upgrade the OS. Case in point, ultrabooks.
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Ultrabo...r.58818.0.html
    My laptop is extremely similar, hardware wise, to a macbook. It costs about half what I'd need to pay for the same hardware with a white case with an apple logo. It gets even more silly if you consider white boxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post
    Either way, we are discussing software not hardware prices, I don't see how that is relevant. Also, web apps? really? you will trust everything to the web? not that most web apps aren't glorified toys...
    When discussing OSes no OS is superior, but to resort to FUD is not the proper way to carry an argument.
    You are not using the term FUD in a context that makes sense.

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    @Aizmov Secure doesn't equal virus free. It's only secure because most people focus there efforts on making viruses for windows since more people have windows then macs. As for the cost, look at post twenty-four of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    @Aizmov Secure doesn't equal virus free. It's only secure because most people focus there efforts on making viruses for windows since more people have windows then macs. As for the cost, look at post twenty-four of this thread.
    You are confused, maybe reading the previously linked to articles would help?

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    The virus problem has largely been due to Windows lacking user accounts in any meaningful sort of way. This has meant that any application can do anything it feels like to the system, that is, a security breach in any application on the compute means a virus can do whatever the hell it feels like. With proper user accounts (and people that don't use the admin account for day-to-day business), as all modern operating systems support (as well as any UNIX system), writing viruses is a whole lot more difficult. Doesn't really matter if more people are targeting a specific platform.

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    This is a review of OS X Lion by the one and only Paul Thurrott
    http://www.winsupersite.com/article/...-review-139776

    Quote Originally Posted by Eris View Post
    The virus problem has largely been due to Windows lacking user accounts in any meaningful sort of way. This has meant that any application can do anything it feels like to the system, that is, a security breach in any application on the compute means a virus can do whatever the hell it feels like. With proper user accounts (and people that don't use the admin account for day-to-day business), as all modern operating systems support (as well as any UNIX system), writing viruses is a whole lot more difficult. Doesn't really matter if more people are targeting a specific platform.
    This maybe true with old Windows, but ever since Vista this has changed. Until OS X Lion was released, nearly all researchers agreed that Windows 7 was more secure than Snow Leopard. I still think some changes need to be done with Windows, like removing the Registry, but it is hard for Microsoft to unshackle the legacy if they want to maintain backwards compatibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post
    You are confused, maybe reading the previously linked to articles would help?
    I looked at those articles and it still stands, there's no way to 100% block viruses. Especially since they tend to target loopholes in coding. Only way to fully protect yourself is to be vigilant and check your computer regularly. Not to mention the first article uses the keyword resistant. Resistant isn't immunity. You could still get a virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameGeeks View Post
    I looked at those articles and it still stands, there's no way to 100% block viruses. Especially since they tend to target loopholes in coding. Only way to fully protect yourself is to be vigilant and check your computer regularly. Not to mention the first article uses the keyword resistant. Resistant isn't immunity. You could still get a virus.
    You are still confused. No one was speaking in absolute terms, only in comparison to other OSes. Also the articles discusses security by design not by obscurity.
    Last edited by Aizmov; 08-05-2011 at 06:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizmov View Post
    You are still confused. No one was speaking in absolute terms, only in comparison to other OSes. Also the articles discusses security by design not by obscurity.
    That's not to mention that's not the way you're coming off. You give off the impression that Macs can't get viruses. Not to mention with simple actions you can block 98% of viruses out there. So really, unless you're stupid and using Windows, viruses are a non issue. Last time I had any real breach to my computer was over a year ago.

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