I have a lvl 70 pally on Fenris and a lvl 22 hunter on destromath. The pally is ally and the hunter is horde. If anyone wants to hang out PM me. ^_^
I have a lvl 70 pally on Fenris and a lvl 22 hunter on destromath. The pally is ally and the hunter is horde. If anyone wants to hang out PM me. ^_^
LOL. I finally caved and joined TN last night making a rogue. Sadly, its level 7. Soon it will be a powerful level....10!!! >.>; As soon as I get the hang of this stupid pickpocketing.
And yes, I am aware that I am a 'tard. I'm sorry. ._.
No one plays there anymore .. i think you should join burning legion...
A lot of people play there still, doofus.
I just got attuned to kara! And I went on my first run last night. ZOMG FUN.
I liked it a lot.
I play there all the time.
On my many alts... Which is why I still have never run Karazhan yet.
Pick a day Aaron, and I will help you get attuned. You have to do two quests, then run three instances. You dont even need to run two of them all the way through.
My computer got dead, but on Tuesday at around 3am...
I should be on AIM whining at the download to hurry up.
Yay! I'm leveling a paladin now. I got bored of my hunter. Lets see when I get bored of this one.
Kara tomorrow, and saturday!
I'm bored in wow. Someone should level to 70.
Yay the PTR is out and we tore up Sunwell the loot is pretty hot...
What guild/server are you on?
Ooh man, I just Jutsu'd you guys. I'm so jealous. You've done everything there is to do :( I feel like such a wownoob now.
The Alliance guild on our server called Eminence, they're 28th in the U.S. =[
I buckled and bought a copy last night. I'm a noob again. Joy...
Ai, Horde or Alliance?
Alliance is easier to play and they have many more benefits along with better racials but who takes the easy way out >=]
But alliance and horde difficulty wise are the same.
I've played both and I have friends who've played both. There isn't any major diffrence.
The only thing that really changes are the leveling areas.
That and blood elves in Ghostlands get superior quality rewards earlier on in the teens, for doing practically nothing.
As for Racials.
Alliance racials = More benefical in PvE than Horde racials.
Horde racials = More benefical in PvP than Alliance racials.
Okay there are a few differences you didn't mention. Alliance have the better lower level instances while Horde have better higher level instances for example all of SM. Also Alliance receive way more money from quests along with quests that give you bags which pretty much no horde quest has. Humans have the best racial out of all however, that being the increased rep. I have 2 level 70 hordes and 1 level 70 alliance and I definitely can tell the difference between the two factions. Blizzard favors alliance as well if you pay attention they have a few times and are in the next patch buffing AV for alliance. It's also known that the storyline for the official WoW movie is based on alliance and is believed to be from the viewpoint of a night elf.
Horde get the lowest level instance in the game, which grants early quality items (Items that were buffed in patch 2.3).
And it's in the heart of ogrimmar, making it realllly difficult for lower level alliance players.
The alliance in city instance? Stockades. Which offers no static loot.
Aside from the in city instances.
There is NOTHING stopping either faction from using the rest of the instances in the game.
There is no such thing as a "Horde and/or Alliance" instance. It's just a matter of getting there. Which isn't overly painful if you travel with your group, or just follow the road and avoid guards.
Alliance have Deadmines.
Horde have Wailing Caverns.
And honestly, I've found that Wailing Caverns has very good loot for Shaman and Druids. And there's also a nice early level hunter bow, and a nice caster staff. The place all has three blue quality shields, so getting early level tanking shields (or shammy shields) shouldn't be a problem. And it's also a great place to level up skinning, as perfect deviate scales (and the perfect deviate scale belt you get the pattern for from a quest right outside the instance) sell well on the AH (About 20-35g, which at level 20, especially for a first toon, is a lot of money)
On the off side, Deadmines has the Superior Rogue loot, and a good deal of two handed weapons for Feral Druids, Warriors, and Paladins. There's practically no gear for tanks, as many of the weapons are two handed, there isn't a lot of mail (actually...I don't think there's any mail drops) and the only shield that drops is from a rare spawn.
The only upside to Deadmines is a quest that offers 1 superior quality item.
Thats just the first two "low level" instances.
And once you get up to SM, both factions end up running the same instances.
horde have a bag quest. On a ship in STV, Believe it was Carletto's Riddle. A quest both factions may pick up, and rewards a good amount of XP and a 14 slot bag.Quote:
Also Alliance receive way more money from quests along with quests that give you bags which pretty much no horde quest has.
Also, a boss in Wailing Caverns drops a Bag if i'm not mistaken.
Thats off the top of my head.
And honestly? Bags aren't that expensive. Anyone with half a brain can save up the money for them.
But then again that depends on servers.
There's one jackass on Eldre'Thalis who floods the market with 16 slot bags for pennies, Thus lowering the cost of all other bags. You can get a 12 slot for silver.
And who cares about how much money you get? The old world quests don't mean a damn thing. And a lot of outland quests are cross-faction, and they're where all the money is.
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Humans have the best racial out of all however, that being the increased rep. I have 2 level 70 hordes and 1 level 70 alliance and I definitely can tell the difference between the two factions.
"Alliance = better PVE Racials"
"Horde = better PVP Racials"
Grant it the human rep bonus also increases rep with battleground factions...But what good does that do when alliance never win ****. (At least, they never win on Reckoning)
And the human rep bonus is only humans, not the rest of the alliance.
Don't see why, AV is the only BG alliance don't suck at because they can treat it like a raid and not a battleground.Quote:
Blizzard favors alliance as well if you pay attention they have a few times and are in the next patch buffing AV for alliance.
What the hell does this have to do with World Of Warcrafts gameplay?Quote:
It's also known that the storyline for the official WoW movie is based on alliance and is believed to be from the viewpoint of a night elf.
And Blizzard doesn't favor the alliance.
They only favor Warlocks.
Dude are you serious!?!?! RFC is terrible and though stocks may fail it has way more quests that offer higher xp than RFC does. Deadmines is the best instance for it's level, Wailing caverns is the worst instance I have ever been to in my life next to Uldaman and BRD, navigating it is retarded for 1 so if it's your first time be ready to get lost and 2 other than the shield there isn't anything really worth while and the shield has a very low drop rate itself so that's nothing to boast it's almost not worth the trouble if it weren't for the xp. Money matters do you know how much training is? The more money you have at lower levels the better. If you cant afford a mount at 40 or an epic at 60 for classes like a warrior it's super lame to do anything or get anywhere so it definitely does matter.
Are you joking about the AV thing??? On Sargeras Alliance win 0 AV's but dominate EVERYTHING ELSE. They're so terrible and tired of losing they boycotted AV increasing the queue time to almost an hour for 1 game! Shadowburn has the worst Allies for AV I have ever seen for god's sake they even get premade's with the mod and a horde pug wins with them ending with no bonus honor.
Also ask any decent horde player and they'll tell you Blizzard favors allies, horde don't get BG buffs we get shafted every time yet still come out victorious. I've played this game since the beta and have downed every boss there is in the game to date, I think I know when i'm right whether it sounds arrogant or not.
Just because YOU find an instance difficult to navigate, doesn't mean OTHER people will. I personally found it easy to navigate. It's called a mini-map. Use it.Quote:
Deadmines is the best instance for it's level, Wailing caverns is the worst instance I have ever been to in my life next to Uldaman and BRD,navigating it is retarded for 1 so if it's your first time be ready to get lost
And hey, I've made a forturne out of Wailing Caverns. I already know it's an awsome instance =)
They upgraded the the white shield Kresh used to drop to a BoP quality blue item, which is only slightly worse now than Kresh's back.Quote:
and 2 other than the shield there isn't anything really worth while and the shield has a very low drop rate itself so that's nothing to boast it's almost not worth the trouble if it weren't for the xp.
And did you completly ignore all of the druid and shaman loot in that place?
No, i have NO idea how much training costs. Because, you know...I don't have a 70 mage.Quote:
Money matters do you know how much training is? The more money you have at lower levels the better. If you cant afford a mount at 40 or an epic at 60 for classes like a warrior it's super lame to do anything or get anywhere so it definitely does matter.
And who says you need an epic mount at 60? the 40 mount was just fine for me untill 62.
Money is easy as hell to get in the earlier levels.
I made a ton of money on my mage just farming and selling items needed for crafting, and mats from disenchanted items.
Why do you think WoW has proffesions? So people can make money.
By level 40 I had roughly 120g (all of my spells up untill that point), because I did reasearch on the best possible things to farm, I checked the auction houses daily, I did research on every single area before entering once I got to level 20 and finished up Bloodmyst, Basically... I played smart Something a lot of WoW players don't do. It's not hard to make money, especially if you're on a medium or higher populated server. odds are most low level characters are alts, so mats for proffesions go for a LOT more on the AH than they normally would (On my server, a stack of wool for instance, sells for 2g on the AH. Wool is NOT hard to come by), but this stuff sells for a lot because higher level characters have a lot of money to burn and they don't feel like farming things for alts. So if it's your first toon, pending on the server, you can make a ton of money selling basically crap.
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Are you joking about the AV thing??? On Sargeras Alliance win 0 AV's but dominate EVERYTHING ELSE. They're so terrible and tired of losing they boycotted AV increasing the queue time to almost an hour for 1 game!
And 1 hour queue's? That is freakin' garbage. It's only a few minutes here.
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Also ask any decent horde player and they'll tell you Blizzard favors allies, horde don't get BG buffs we get shafted every time yet still come out victorious.
Didn't you just say on your battlegroup, alliance win almost everything, AV being the exception?
And obviously horde come out superior in PvP. Horde are built better for it, and the alliance, unless you join a mature guild, are morons.
Exactly. You think you know.Quote:
I've played this game since the beta and have downed every boss there is in the game to date, I think I know when i'm right whether it sounds arrogant or not.
Quit being so Pompus. It's all situational. There's a butt ton of diffrent servers.
As far as the instance thing goes, thats universal on all servers, as the loot and difficulty don't change.
However, The PvP thing, that varies from Battlegroup to Battlegroup.
As for money...Money may be scarce on your server, but it's sure as hell booming on mine. And either way, who cares if a toon doesn't have every single spell (Example...A Feral Druid doesn't need to get every single rank of Wrath or Starfire if they can't afford it), or a mount at 40.
Odd's are, if you don't have a mount at 40, thats your first toon. if thats your first toon, you've never had a mount. if you've never had a mount, you don't know how slow questing is without one, thus you can't miss something you never had.
And if you're leveling an alt, if you have a level 70, A day and a half of ogri'la and skettis daily quests will just about cover your alts mount.
Neither faction are any better or any worse than the other.
On some servers, Horde are superior. Some servers, it's Alliance.
As for money, thats all a matter of server to server economics. From personal experience on my server, it's not hard to make money.
Ragefire Chasm is an amazing introductory instance, with a buttload of nice drops that Alliance has to corpserun to even hope to see. Meanwhile, Stocks has NOTHING. What good is a couple more silver(because that's all it is really) when you're basically just fighting elites for no real major benefit? Believe me, the Horde's easy-access instance around that level is SFK, and if you claim that THAT has no gear, then I can only assume you have never been there. Both sides can get to it, but it's sitting there, in Horde territory, almost literally thirty seconds away from a major Horde city for someone with an epic mount. Next closest levelwise is BFD, which aside from a nice alternative to Redbeard Crest has nothing major SFK doesn't do at least as well.
Alliance sucks at PvP this is true, but it's more from the people that are playing's ability to work together than anything else. I've been on both sides of things, and the difference is staggering more often than not. There are a few really good Alliance BG groups running around, but they'd have to be premades or twinks that have grown used to each other. This is on Shadowburn, admittedly at the lower levels(as I get higher I notice I've stopped PvPing, because I can't stand the people in Shadowburn. When they're losing they whine, when they're winning they give up the advantage to farm honor and start losing).
Correction: If you listen to any whiny noob Horde player that gets ganked at every opportunity they'll say Blizz favors Alliance(and vice versa, by the way), the general consensus on the official boards from what I've read is what Redfield said, but with a slight bias in favor of Horde since a good chunk of the game has PvP involved in it somehow and they DO get some nicer stuff. (EDIT: I will concede that Belf Pallys got gypped on their 50 Paladin quest. When I saw the rewards compared to what Alliance gets I actually pitied them. Actually, I pity Belf Pallys in general, they get overall inferior everything. In fact, now that you mention it, Alliance does get nice quest rewards, but Horde gets nice BoE loots to sell easier... Hmm, I suppose that's all a matter of your AH, at that point.)
Hell, Zul'Aman is where again? Ghostlands. Know how Horde gets there? Undercity, then Bat to Ghostlands. Know how Alliance gets there? Eastern Plaguelands, through a portal. So disgustingly out of the way that I expect Bloodmyst Isle to get an instance after all this, but what's the next thing? ANOTHER ISLAND IN BELFLAND! Granted one that's easy to access from major cities, but still, where's the ZA equivalent in Draeneitown?
Nowhere, that's where.