Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
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Originally Posted by
Furore
If it were that easy, why is crime still so rampant?
It isn't. At least not where the theory is consistently applied on a system-wide level. I'll turn the question around, why is crime so rampant in places with punishment-oriented criminal systems. There shouldn't be any murders at all if you risk capital punishment, while places like Sweden where murderers serve 10-15 years should be a war zone. Why is it the other way around, with a national homicide rate (per capita) in the US a whopping 5 times bigger than in Sweden, and overall crime rate almost 35 times bigger (again per capita)?
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Originally Posted by
Furore
Rewarding desirable behavior is part of my approach while working - I'll allow those that don't seek to vandalize things a hassle free environment to skateboard or whatever.
But does everyone in your shoes do the same? All it takes is that one corrupt cop who likes to abuse his station to beat people silly to burn the respect the honest ones strive to build to cinders.
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Originally Posted by
Furore
But even there you *still* get kids where things need to get physical before they'll have any respect for you. (I'd rather not hit kids if possible, but will arrest them if committing a crime and won't hesitate to club them if they pull a knife out). I'm the type to believe what I see in practice rather than hearing about what works in theory.
And earnt respect on my job I have - those won over I have no trouble with and even chat to some of them fairly regularly, the ones that aren't receptive to the more positive approach know to run at the sight of me. Different strokes for different folks I suppose, but either way, some people both child and otherwise don't seem to respond to anything but the physical stuff.
You don't earn respect by getting physical. You earn fear. Fear is not to be confused with respect.
--EDIT-- used odd statistics. Fix'd.
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
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Originally Posted by
zansa
Give her in adoption.
I'm fairly sure you can't do that with 18 year olds.
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
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Originally Posted by
Eris
I'm fairly sure you can't do that with 18 year olds.
kick it out of the house. for sure he/she'll come back.
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
That story is just........wow! If my future grandchild did that I might have done the same thing this granny did! The words people use these days! Me personally I try to swear as little as possible because my parents raised me to believe that swearing just made one look unintelligent! And maybe their right and maybe their not but that is the way things are in my family!
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
That kid's lucky. My grandmother would have thrown me.
But I agree with Eris. If you can only resort to violence, you should question your abilities as a parent, because you clearly have not the patience raising a child requires. Positive and negative reinforcement are said to work best. Reward good behavior and remove what might cause bad behavior.
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kick it out of the house. for sure he/she'll come back.
Yeah, just throw your kid out with no money, no food, no nothing, that'll solve everything.
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
Every parent / grandparent should know that slapping won't solve anything nor fix someone's attitude - it will only widen the distance between them. And as for the girl to call the police just because she got slapped by her grandmother is just overreacting, putting her maturity in question. Man is she really 18?
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
The grandmother broke the government law, the granddaughter broke the law of respect towards her family and herself. There is no pride in what the granddaughter did, if she still is proud of it then it's a serious problem for her. The grandmother doesn't regret what she did, she was raised that way and she knows what has to be done. A cocky 18 year old girl has no knowledge whatsoever of how to respond to these kind of things.
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
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Originally Posted by
Miss Moonlight
Article here
I say go Granny.
Kids these days are
way too privileged. And, if I were to have done the same to my parents/grandparents when I was growing up, I would have gotten a lot worse than a slap.
What a brat. At least the charges were dropped.
I can't say as the girl didn't deserve it to some extent; regardless, it isn't worth it in the long run. It is difficult to be sure, but it's for the best to try and keep one's cool and at least try to get across the greater significance in not having the mouth of a brat. After all, one day they'll very likely come across someone who won't be as forgiving as you.
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Originally Posted by
Ericgamer1
I would like to counter the current sentiment in this thread because I believe that she was right to face charges. (sorry moony, I disagree)
The evidence confirms my position:
Full Article:
http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...926222,00.html
Children should never be harmed in any way, including corporal punishment.
So then, the greater significance behind your position is in that corporal punishment lowers a child's IQ, correct? Well, I'm not saying that I agree with corporal punishment; however, if you're worried about lowered IQs, there is a solution.
Increase your IQ
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
I'll say this right now: It is never alright to strike a child. It leaves marks, visible and not, and it stays with you. I used to get beatings. Seriously, beatings. With wire hangers, cables, and the good ole fashioned belt. Like Sigma said, this girl is lucky to be in America.
Let's just say they both were wrong because they were.
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
something i'll like to do to people around here!!!
Re: Grandmother facing battery charges after slapping granddaughter for mouthing off
This thread is two years old. Let it die, everyone.