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genocides are pure monsters like mao zedongo,adolf hitler,hideki tojo,joseph stalin,leonid brshner,kkk or pol pot they are all still humans which means they can still be killed by other people if given the right number of people who disapprove of what they do vs plagues like bubonic,pneumic or septcemic which is an unseen unknow killer. the bubonic plage killed 75 milion people
200 years ago it would have been plauges, no one had any way of stoping them. Now on the other hand we have medicine and such and I think with our current level of technology we could find a cure fairly quickly. Genocide on the other hand would happen much faster than it would have 200 years ago and it would probably be widespread. Also with the current level of technology, unless there is a seriuos technological gap between the opposing sides, any attempt to stop this could drag on for years.
In other words, today genocide would be far more devistating than a plauge.
If you're talking on a damage level, then I trend along the line that @dinochan went with. If you mean what is "worse" in a more subjective way, I'll boil it down to one line.
Plagues are caused by bacteria/viruses for the sake of their continued existence at the cost of human life, Genocides are caused by humans for the sake of their beliefs at the cost of human life.
takenfire, that is also a very good point, and I thank you for playing the emotional bit. I tend to get wraped up in the statistics with stuff like this and forget the emotional side that goes with it.
To build on what you said, 200 years ago we would have had no idea what was causing all of these people to suddenly drop dead. Then we freak out. Now we would know the how and the why and it would be far less scary. Genocide on the other hand forces you to look at how horrible humanity can be, which terrifies humans to no end.
On a side note, I just realized that 200 years ago we would have freaked out, blamed a group of people, and killed them. Effectivly creating genocide, or a witch hunt depending on the culture. Funny how things come full circle on that ._.
what about the zombies?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinochan
or that plague that makes people turn into tentacle monsters, I think that's far worse then a genocide or two
Genocides are much worst than plagues. You can cure an ailment and disease. You cannot cure hate and blind hatred for particular groups over nothing more than pure greed and control with a simple injection or pill. As painful as it is to see death lingering on decomposing loved ones until their biological structure is devoid of any nutrients and life, it's much more painful to experience death via ideology.
To stop genocides, every one of us has to be active. Philosophizing will not help. If you are not sure that genocide is going on right now read this book http://books.rolf-witzsche.com/glass/v1b.pdf
True. Very true. In that case we are done for to an extrodinary degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanromml
I don't think anyone has mentioned man-made plague (which is a real possibility). Genocide by plague then becomes... the worst?
If we are talking about genocide vs natural plague, then genocide is far worse. In genocide, humans wipe out portions of their OWN species (contrary to evolutionary instinct, though these instigators may insist otherwise). In natural plague, these agents (virus, bacteria, etc.) are hardwired genetically to do what they do. Their imperative is to survive. We put them down, they mutate and get back up. It's bad to see millions die by plague, but it is an unavoidable consequence a majority of the time. Genocide, on the other hand, is mostly preventable in this age (aside from near or existing third world countries).
O_O............................................... ......................... Wow, it just like a debating place,huh.
Plagues are simply bad, in that it is a bad thing that they happen. Genocide, on the other hand, is evil, because they are brought about by the intentional agency of human beings.
There is a roumor I heared a long time ago saying that the American government has a plan of action just in case there is a zombie apocalypse attack. Many gun shops also have Zombie Max Ammunition just in case. Do you think America is ready for a zombie apocalypse?Quote:
Originally Posted by nrL
I still think a genocide would be worse than a plague.
Evil is based on your morals. Anyway obviously genocide is "worse", that's preventable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Datenshi
Genocide is worse for all of the reasons listed above. Mass murder will always be worse.
o.o ................. That's probably the scariest thing I've thought about today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kusuke
I'd actually have to say a plague is worse. After all, diseases have killed more people than anything else, at least to my knowledge. Also, in this day and age, it's much easier to contain a genocide (assuming a massive genocide could even go unchecked with how fast information travels nowadays) than a plague.
That is precisely why genocide is worse; because of the moral element. A thousand people dead from a natural disaster and a thousand people dead from genocide may cause an equal amount of suffering, but the latter is morally objectionable in a further sense that the former is not, hence making it worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cykbra