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Just heard about this a few minutes ago.
It's crazy.. this is obviously worse than events with guns involved. Freaking explosives.
These cowards need to be found.
Kudos to the first responders, volunteers, and the two (probably off duty) army soldiers for their help getting injured people to safety.
I disagree. In both cases people die. The tool used to kill means nothing. A tragedy is a tragedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albear
I fully understand that this is a tragedy, but I'm waiting for the culprits to be found and end up being Americans. Then every news reporter in the country will be blaming violent video games again. Just like with the Newton shooting, people pointed fingers at the NRA and they were pointing fingers at games.
I as a person feel bad for those who were hurt by this, but I know that the media is gonna use this as another way to blow something out of proportion and misconstrue what should be learned from it. Every time someone blames something like TV or games I just laugh. They don't realize it that more often than not attacks like this are usually psychologically related. That or the parents of the one who committed the crime didn't know how to properly raise their child.
Mini rant aside, I give my full respect to the victims, and am sorry for their loss.
Edit: General clean up.
You have a good point, but I considered every element that I know of. To me, it is worse because 100 people have been injured in just a few seconds. Also, just like in other bomb cases, narrowing down potential suspects isn't easy. The same can be said for gun crimes, but I'd wager that it is easier to catch the suspect(s).Quote:
Originally Posted by Immoral
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Originally Posted by Albear
This might just be me talking out my butt, so bear with me.
There is something I’ve noticed over the past few years. While yes, bombs can potentially harm more people at once than a gun; gun related crimes tend to have more actual fatalities. From what I’ve seen on TV/internet there were only 2 fatalities as opposed to something like the Aurora Shooting last year which had about 60 injured, and 12 (If I remember correctly) dead. That’s six times as many killed, while there was about 50% less injuries when it was gun related.
To me unless it’s something meant for war or actual large scale damage, bombs don’t compare to the amount of damage guns have caused overall.
Edit: Keep in mind that in the Theater shooting it was one person with guns while the event today was two separate bombs even if it was one person. Just an after thought.
@FreakyTy
While I do agree with you that guns have caused more fatalities on peaceful settings in recent news, bombs (whether military grade or not), can still kill many depending on where it is. 2001 in New York had several explosions caused by planes, killing hundreds. Speaking of which, property damage is another element I considered. A semi automatic rifle won't cause millions in stuff being destroyed like an explosive. Of course a few buildings gone isn't as important as human lives. Anyway, I still think explosives are worse than firearms.
This was sad to hear. At first I was shocked when I heard that there had been a bomb set off at the marathon. I give props to all the police,firefighters and medics for their quick action to contain the scene as best as they could while putting themselves in danger. It is sad to hear that there a fatalities and injuries caused from this violence. I will be keeping the city of Boston in my thoughts.
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Other than 9/11 this is the only one that stands out as a significant amount of damage, and quite honestly I don’t think 9/11 counts as a bombing. The greater part of the destruction was mainly due to massive 747’s smashing into skyscrapers that then collapsed due to the structural weakness, to put it bluntly. Explosions in their own right are very deadly but the way I was figuring was bombs by themselves are not as bad as guns. Then again it’s like comparing apples to oranges they are two different things that serve the same reasons, and unfortunately that is often a negative purpose.
I know that one thing we can agree on is that things like this are just another way humans let their barbarianism show through. There are people in the world that are savages and unfortunately these weapons are the easiest and most prime examples of such a thing. Hopefully we will move forward as a species, get our **** together, and stop senselessly killing innocent people.
Here's the article I was reading about the bombings in case you were interested,
http://www.passfail.com/news/google/...ws-8398926.htm
I was so shocked when I heard about this. Simply awful. I really hope they catch the culprit(s) soon. The last I heard they had a person of interest, but no suspects as of yet. Also, one of the two who died was an eight-year old boy... Not to mention another eight children were among the injured... I really don't understand what comes over people to make them do such horrible things and cause senseless destruction.
Or.. They weren't commercial airlines but aircraft loaded with bombs. Conspiracies aside, it was still an Explosion.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreakyTy
I still think things that blow up are worse. In war, it's the most effective method.
Wow. You guys just can't catch a break.
R.I.P. to the 8 year old boy who died in Boston's explosions, while running for the Sandy Hook kids. #PrayForBoston
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If you watch the footage of the aftermath, you can watch those most affected get swarmed over by helpers.
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I only heard about it this morning from a few workmates, one of them started blurting about talibans and terrorists and was hint-looking at a black guy from my sector; that's when I had to shut him up for his idiocy, and added "9/11 is no longer a fad this season, get some air!" as a closing statement.
Aaah, my fellow 'mericuns, looks like your govt and homeland security is trying to bully you into agreeing on another bill that you will be paying for with your blood, sweat and tears.
More of these so-called 'tragedies' will occur this year until you bend over and take it from them. Once you do, they'll decide when you and your families die.
Tell me about it, it's times like this I'm happy to live in Alaska...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eris
@The Angelic Anathema
Good to know for all the crazies out there, there are just than many more willing to help their fellow man out. In my everyday life I see more hate than help so it makes me wonder if these are just the teenagers I'm around most of the time or if they are the same way as the helpers, just not showing it on the outside. People today are so conceited and self centered it's appalling really.
If it's a muslim this crime will be because of terrorism. If it's a black person this crime will be because of gang violence. If it's a white this crime will be because of video games.
It really sucks that however this is sought fit to target a run used for charitable donations. I hope that the perpetrators are caught. The media should concentrate on the victims and rarely mention the murderers names. Hopefully they will disappear into obscurity with their motives uncomplete. The nashing of their teeth in a prison cell being the only message they get to convey.
It's horrible to think of but because IEDs are normally placed on the ground children are much more likely to take a mortal injury. Most of the adults hurt were suffering leg wounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolanaNight
In other news 55 civilians have died in Iraq from a series of bomb explosions in a single day. 40 plus people have died in Iran thanks to earthquakes. The world isn't all that interested right now.
Or it was just terrorism. Skin color hasn't a thing to do with terrorism. Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist and white(He seems to be coming up uncommonly often when talking about this). I've heard that a Saudi national who was here on a student visa is in custody/questioning, but I won't pass judgement until I've got more than a smattering of mentions from obscure news sources. For now, it would be nice if judgement wasn't expressed, but there is always a talking head that feels the need to express themselves and start complicated and redundant mud-parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rylingo
The media will do whatever gets it the most views/profits. Unfortunately, basically starting a biographical mini-series on the culprit seem to fit said bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rylingo
Sadly most Americans (And probably other first world countries.) don't even realize that really bad things happen everyday, and honestly I wouldn't even be surprised if most plain out didn't care at all, but I digress.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rylingo
As Angelic Anathema said, "You do know that making a passive aggressive post about tragedy on a thread related to different tragedy in an attempt to belittle said tragedy is both immature and an egregious way to promote your own cause."
The point is that this happened, and since it happened too close to home there will be more notice for those who live there. While I don't necessarily agree with that I can understand why things are like this. All we can do is hope for the betterment of humanity as a whole, and one day things like this won't happen as often or at all.
I was being hyperbolic really. That tends to be the way the media treats the deaths, the Oklahoma bomber being an exception. It's become a common fixture when any bad act has been carried out of late the blame falls on video games. Bookies odds, that if it is a white person video games will be brought up. Apologies with the bookies comment, Northern Ireland's humour being as morbid as always.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Angelic Anathema
I put the extra space between them because i wasn't directing it there. I wasn't even trying to compare the deaths or use the number of lives lost to promote something. Rather I was just pointing out how one tragedy can blot out another one purely down to how our media is setup. Only one major bombing is allowed to be reported at anytime. Only one story related to any topic is allowed. Two space stories in a week? Too bad for story number 2!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Angelic Anathema
Anyone hear about the West Borough Baptist Church threatening to picket the funerals?
Except it didn't happen close to home for me. I don't live in America. UK media being what it is, the bombing that has the most public interest receives 99.9% of the airtime.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreakyTy
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the UK is a first world country, no? What I meant by my previous statement is that people who live in first world countries tend to care more about what happens in their or other first world countries, and not so much everywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rylingo