Did Sailor Moon Stars Get Showed In U.s.

[Sweet_Angel]

I never saw it so im woindering.

[Sweet_Angel]

Does anyone know??? :^_^:

[Kewii]

no it never did.

I've been downloading it here:
www.downloadanime.org

You might want to try that if you want to see it.
For me the downloads are very slow though. But IMO it was worth the wait.

[Sutekihime]

Nope and it'll never will because of the way the series is displayed.

[Chiki Girl]

Originally posted by Sutekihime@Mar 29 2004, 10:06 AM
Nope and it'll never will because of the way the series is displayed.
What do you mean by that?

[yuffie]

It got showed in Japan, england, and germany, im sure off......But not certain any where else.....They have the DVD set over here in england *laughs at all the other countrys that dont have it*
Tee hee
*coughs*

[yuny2000]

I was wondering too! I wonder why it didn't show in the u.s.....................

[Sweet_Angel]

Oh it ill be cool if they show it though.

[Sweet_Angel]

Originally posted by Chiki Girl+Apr 1 2004, 06:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chiki Girl @ Apr 1 2004, 06:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Sutekihime@Mar 29 2004, 10:06 AM
Nope and it'll never will because of the way the series is displayed.
What do you mean by that? [/b][/quote]
oh its because women turn into men and almost every single sailor scout dies.And other stuff. ;)

[Lyra]

It gets showed in the US on UPN 44 Monday- Friday 6:30 AM eastern time., but it only
shows the first season.

[InuyashaOtaku]

There's a lot of reasons why it wasn't dubbed here. Frankly, I doubt it ever will, unless they butcher it to death. Let's just say America is a homophobic country sometimes... *shakes head* There's other reasons too, but I don't want to give too many things away.

[fluffyanimegirl]

i got word that it was going to start showing in the us agai in june.

[Sumi Wings]

Sailor Moon Stars won't be showed in the u.s. because of all of the drag... :D. It's a good story though. Even if the love interest is a girl/guy. I got to watch it a few years ago because my brother's friend went to school in japan and brought the subtitles for us to watch. :P

[usagi_chibi]

Originally posted by Lyra@Apr 28 2004, 06:07 PM
It gets showed in the US on UPN 44 Monday- Friday 6:30 AM eastern time., but it only
shows the first season.
when where im in the us and it doesnt sj=how which state do you live in

[Princess Minako]

because the stars are men and they are women. when they are the starlights they ARE men, when they are transformed they ARE women. a bit o gender bending and seiya is in love with usagi. Its hard to hide that because its a huge part of the series, esp how mamoru is gone and seiya is making advances on usagi and even tho she hasn't heard from mamoru she stays true to him.... It shows how their love is strong no matter what and the last three episodes usagi is completely naked, there is no way to disguise it.

The Goddess has Spoken

[Anime_Overload]

There has been a rumor that the last season would be shown here in the U.S. and that is partilly true. Remeber they are relesing all the origanl uncut versions of the Sailor Moon season in DVD box sets. in about a year or 2 they will be releasing the last season in DVD box set form. So just have patients and you'll get your wish. But the only down side is that not many people have $150 just liying around to buy them. :wacko: I sure don't. :<_<:

The reason why it won't be shown on TV is obvious. the sailor stars are both men and women, and from what i hear all the sailor scout die harible bloody deaths. and yes there are more nudy sines than ever before. :wub:

[Princess Minako]

its not bloody deaths, they all fade away. There isn't any blood.... its more just sad than violent. you've been misinformed.

The Goddess has Spoken

[Anime_Overload]

Originally posted by Princess Minako@Sep 17 2004, 07:24 PM
its not bloody deaths, they all fade away. There isn't any blood.... its more just sad than violent. you've been misinformed.

The Goddess has Spoken
ACK! Someone told me that Sailor Mercury dies when she falls off a cliff and gets stabbed by several crystal spikes or something like that.

[Havana]

Some Countries are lucky... i heard that they didn't show it because they didn't want kids to be exposed to nudity or something and the last season did have some at the end. But that's all i know.

[Amazon_Goddess]

AARRRGGHHH!!! Its no fair!!! Thats it! I had it I am so movin 2 England! lol. I wanna see the Sailor Stars soo bad! But like sum1 said, its not like ppl just have $150.00 just lyin around. And besides dont they only offer that stuf over the internet? I mean u cant b sure if u will get the things u pay 4 n also u would need a credit-card n I dont have one I am too young. Man this is so frustrating! I wish I could see Sailor Stars...that is my dying wish lolz

[Princess Minako]

try VKLL, I believe they still have stars fansubbed and all you pay is shipping. And you pay with a Postal Money Order, they are very trustworthy and their quality is top notch. *shrug* thats how I'd do it.

The Goddess has Spoken

[Shinkono Kokoro]

No. They never showed it and never will because *GASP* little children can't watch something like this where guys turn into girls and back again and two girls are in a relationship ((no matter how much anyone else protests..)) that you wont' pick up on unless you look for it. *sigh* Stupid syndicated American television...


It is good. A friend of mine gave it to me recently via disk because she downloaded it from some site http://www.anime-keep.org I think. It's good. ^_^ Haven't finished yet.

[JiruCloud]

Yeah... America doesn't get much, surprisingly... Inheard that you could get Sailor V, the origin of SM in Francs though! I'd love to get that! Sugoi!

[Fabala]

See, the thing is, if they get their panties in a twist over lesbians (Making them cousins no less... *cracks up*), how do you think they'd handle the gender anomalies that are the Starlights? Either way it's looked at gets them in trouble. Make them girls full-time and there's a good amount of editing to do both in drawings and in love triangles/storyline. Make them guys full-time and...well, have you seen their uniforms??

[MeliTala]

there is talk about realising the Sailor Moon Stars on dvd in the US, but like I said its talk. Even though I'm new, I can be a little help here. If you want the Sailor Stars DVDs then check out Ebay, they have alot of the english dvds of all the seasons, including:ooh: SAILOR STARS:ooh: and the best part.. now wait for it... they are at a relatively good asking price. At a buy it now price you can get it for about... say thirty american bucks. For a bidding, the asking proce starts around $15 and goes up. But they won't release the Stars on tv for all viewers except possibly for say... ages 16 on up. They consider the constant gender change of the star lights and the lesbian interaction not suitable for childern, which is a load of bull, since they let children read the manga (where it shows lesbian scenes, ie kissing, not much else, and the starlights as both male and female,) don't forget they let kids obtain Sailor Moon Super S manga number 2 where it shows a possible romance between Sailor Mars and Sailor Venus and in the anime, they show scenes with that show characters, female characters, with shirts off. ON KIDS TELEVISON NETWORKS none the less. A bunch of hypricate they are

[Energy Goddess]

No it didnt but you have to download it.

[Luni]

yea, i think so but it was a while ago

[Moon Blade]

In a word. No. Ther is a possibility (aka, don't count on it) that it will be released in a few years, but that depends on Toei, Geneon, and ADV and the complicated matters of business. Anyway, I wanted to address..


ACK! Someone told me that Sailor Mercury dies when she falls off a cliff and gets stabbed by several crystal spikes or something like that.That death (though I am not 100% sure that is exactly how it went down) happens in the uncut end of the first season. Mercury, Mars, Venus, and Jupiter all get killed and wind up entangled in ice in one way or another.

[^_^ Yay spoiler tags!]

Edit: I apologize if anyone read my post before the spoiler tags were added and something was spoiled. I always forget that somethings that has been common knowledge for so long to me can still be potentially spoiling to a story for someone else!

[ancientsilence]

Silly me, I thought the reason why it didn't get shown in the US was because of this odd little fact: I've heard that at the end of the series, they forget everything that happened during that season, so it's like it never happened.

[Moon Blade]

Hm..to answer a "spoiler" point, I must use all spoiler text. What an odd post!


At the end of the first season, they all do lose their memories, and time seems ot reset (the anime gets a little fuzzy about the time change, so I don't try to delve to deep). The senshi then regain their memories at the beginning of Sailor Moon R and continue to fight evil. StarS ends with the current evil thwarted and life continuing on as normal. Of course the manga ending of the series delves deeper, but I won't say more here... StarS is not shown due to the transvestite-ish Starlights and the return of Haruka and Michiru. See other SAilor Moon threads for more info.

[kagura_kaze_youkai]

It never aired because of the situation of the Sailor Star Lights.... the fact that they're guys who transform into girls....
If the anime would have followed the manga and kept them female in both forums....then it may have been different...

[kagura_kaze_youkai]

THe schools comp messed it up and posted it twice..... Gomen --_-- *edits this one.*

[Mistress Koneko]

It never aired because of the situation of the Sailor Star Lights.... the fact that they're guys who transform into girls....
If the anime would have followed the manga and kept them female in both forums....then it may have been different...
I'm not so sure if it would have been different if the Starlights stayed girls. From what I have heard, because I haven't been able to read it myself yet, was that Seiya had a thing for Usagi in the manga as well. I am not so sure if that would have gone over very well with the uptight U.S. censors. Just look what they did to Uranus and Neptune. They turned them into kissing cousins! So the message they send by doing that is that incenst more acceptable then being homosexual. Nice.:<_<:

Anyway, I am getting off the topic here. Sailormoon Sailor Stars will never be aired on Cartoon Network. As for other networks, I have heard the rumors of Sci-Fi Channel or Oxygen being possible contenders, I am not putting too much stock into that though since they are just rumors going around on the internet.

Sailor Moon was marketed as a little kiddies show here in the U.S. Those that have seen the uncut subtitled version know that it is far from a little kids show. So because of how Sailor Moon was marketed in the U.S. they will not show Sailor Stars because of all the editing they would have to do to make it "acceptable" to a younger audience.

The best way to see it is by either downloading it or buying it from a fan subber.

[darkfire_destiny]

adultswim.com has an entire forum area where you can go to make suggestions for future shows. the request has been put in many times for Stars to be aired, tehre is no official word yet...

[Higurashi Kagome]

You can suggest it, but I doubt it'll ever happen. The Sailor Stars are-as said before- guys that become girls. In a word transvestites. The jack***** that dub and alter anime for American viewing consumption wouldn't know what to do with it to make it "sanitary for American viewers." ::grumbles::

[Moon Blade]

It never aired because of the situation of the Sailor Star Lights.... the fact that they're guys who transform into girls....
If the anime would have followed the manga and kept them female in both forums....then it may have been different...

According to the copies of StarS manga I have <flips through to double check> the Starlights are men in their "civilian" forms and female in their senshi form, just like the anime. It follows the same pattern, with some relationship tension between a male Seiya and Usagi.

I must say that if you cannot get the Stars anime (look for fansubs!) get the manga from Tokyopop. They use some of the DiC-dub terminology, but the rest seems faithful. The manga and anime deviate greatly, with the manga (in my opinion) giving a better conclusion to the series than the anime.

I doubt Adult Swim will air StarS, given the demographics. I just hope ADV can finally get the rights to StarS and release it like the first two seasons, completely unedited Japanese.

[Fabala]

Are you certain on that? That it hasn't been editted to be so?

Because, frankly, I have -never- heard anything but that the Starlights are all female, all the time, in the manga. They disguise themselves as males to attract girls to them.

[Karel]

I don't really think this show was for kids to begin with.. hence all the editing. They've gone so far with editing as to change the entire story around not for this particular show.. though many others like Yugioh and turn it into kiddy crap x_x. Wait a sec.. what am I doing here, I don't watch Sailor moon. *hides*

[Fabala]

Not really, no. The original was intended for teens and up.

[Moon Blade]

I don't really think this show was for kids to begin with.. hence all the editing. They've gone so far with editing as to change the entire story around not for this particular show.. though many others like Yugioh and turn it into kiddy crap x_x. Wait a sec.. what am I doing here, I don't watch Sailor moon. *hides*
:laugh: No need to hide! your opinoin is valued, whether you wach Sailor Moon or not!

Reiako is correct, the Stralights are always men high schoolers who become female Senshi (just to reiterate).

[Fabala]

I didn't say that, actually ^^;;

That's correct in the anime. The manga, however, differs in that they are -always- female. So yes, Usagi kisses a woman when Seiya kisses her ;p Not that it's the first time...

[Moon Blade]

LOL, sorry Reiako! I can't seem to read...

Well, I looked online a little and through other sources, and I it all points to the Starlights always as men who become female. http://www.angelfire.com/ca/smoonam/ is one source. I also have a FAQ on my comp from a website I can no longer recall that says as such. It would also seem odd to censor a manga to make it include cross-dressing and yet keeps everything else intact.

Edit: Sailor Tein also comments on not trusting girls pretending to be guys in the manga. (I know that doesn;t seem like tons of proof, but why add such a line?)

[Fabala]

^_^; Er...maybe I didn't look enough, but I didn't see anything saying that.

Here: http://www.japan-101.com/anime/sailor_starlights.htm, http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/sailorsun/contro.html, http://www.alltrees.org/anime/willowandoak/sm.stars.shtml
Those all support the fact that they are always female in the manga. Heh heh... Normally I wouldn't carry on this way, but it's a pet peeve of mine, of sorts.

Edit: http://www.selenity.net/characters/starhealer.html <- Another.

[Moon Blade]

^_^; Er...maybe I didn't look enough, but I didn't see anything saying that.

Here: http://www.japan-101.com/anime/sailor_starlights.htm, http://www.angelfire.com/anime3/sailorsun/contro.html, http://www.alltrees.org/anime/willowandoak/sm.stars.shtml
Those all support the fact that they are always female in the manga. Heh heh... Normally I wouldn't carry on this way, but it's a pet peeve of mine, of sorts.

Edit: http://www.selenity.net/characters/starhealer.html <- Another.
I get it now! We were dancing around the same issue. The idea of true gender identity is blurred in both manga and anime. the line in http://www.japan-101.com/anime/sailor_starlights.htm, says:

In the manga, the trio adopt human identities as male pop stars, but in the anime they were changed into men, who become women when transformed.

I believed Reiako said the Starlights simply walked around in female form as civilains, which is clearly not the case. Usagi and company believed they were men. (As Sailor Tien says, do not trust girls pretending to be guys.) They are, however, truly women. The same generally applies to the anime, as the Senshi form is their "true form" though they can become true men. (I get this from my viewing of the end of the anime.) (As you can see, it is very hard to explain the differences.) This is what I have seen/read anyway. I apologize again!

Long story short: This is proof why Stars has not been on the air. such themes can be complicated. Even crossdressing women would not be tolerated on a lot of TV these days.

[Fabala]

Mm, it's more or less impossible for them to overcome the gender bending issue of the anime ^^;; If they were to claim they were always actually female (and disguised as male pop singers), they'd be left with the issue of Seiya loving Usagi, not to mention several scenes in which they're topless. If they tried to make them male all the time, severe editing would need to be taken to...well...everything ^^; And to leave it as-is is to be prepared with outraged adults arguing showing "gender-bending" characters on a show their children are watching.

Thus I can understand no company being daring enough to take it on.

[Higurashi Kagome]

I'd rather not anyone overcome the gender issue personally...that'd ruin the story. They already tried ruining it by claiming that Haruka and Michiru were cousins...o.o (but that's just my opinion.)

[R384149]

Lol,show it on HBO.

[kira yamato89]

yeah they would have to show that on HBO

[Fabala]

I'd rather not anyone overcome the gender issue personally...that'd ruin the story. They already tried ruining it by claiming that Haruka and Michiru were cousins...o.o (but that's just my opinion.)

Ideally, yes. However the fact that Haruka and Michiru (*cringe* Amara and Michelle...) were altered, leaves me to doubt the same company wouldn't touch gender benders ^^;;; Know what I mean?

Other thing is, moving it to another channel usually not watched by younger viewers poses another problem: the first 4 seasons (especially the first 2) are directed to a younger audience. What company is going to pick up the last part and forfeit the younger crowd to preserve the storyline?

Wow...I've posted on this thread far too much ^^;

[R384149]

did neptune and/or uranus have english names/voices? When did they first come?

[Fabala]

In the dub? Yes. They appear in the third season (The "S" season), officially in the third episode with the dubbed names of Amara (Haruka) and Michelle (Michiru). And, much to the chagrin of loyal fans, these beloved lesbians are changed by Pioneer to "cousins." Close cousins, apparently.

[Higurashi Kagome]

Ideally, yes. However the fact that Haruka and Michiru (*cringe* Amara and Michelle...) were altered, leaves me to doubt the same company wouldn't touch gender benders ^^;;; Know what I mean?

Other thing is, moving it to another channel usually not watched by younger viewers poses another problem: the first 4 seasons (especially the first 2) are directed to a younger audience. What company is going to pick up the last part and forfeit the younger crowd to preserve the storyline?

(Just pretends she didn't see the English names...) None here as far as I know. But even though the earlier episodes appear to have been directed at a younger audience-in Japan the later ones were as well. The Japanese don't have any stipulation about their youngsters learning about these things. I mean heck-at age 13 you're bloody legal there!

[Fabala]

No, but it's directed towards a slightly older crowd, while directed at a younger crowd here in the states ^_~

[ancientsilence]

Yet another reason why Sailor Moon Stars didn't get shown in the US... (okay, okay, they would have probably changed the name - BIG TIME, seeing as how they acted with Michiru and Haruka!) Artist is Jeffery Anderson, at http://www.sailorenergy.com (http://www.sailorenergy.com/) (there are also a lot of other musings of what might have happened if SMStars had gotten shown in the US there...).
The real name of the attack is "Star Gentle Uterus".

[Innotech]

one thing I'd like to know. If Sailor Stars was really not shown because of gender bending, then how come you can buy all the RANMA 1/2 you want? Ranma changes from obviously a boy to very obviously a girl with a splash of hot or cold water! There NO DISGUISING IT! Whats with the double standard?

[Fabala]

Well sure, and there are hentai anime that take gender-bending to a whole new level. I don't think we can know without an official statement from Pioneer, but my guess is they tread more carefully around Sailor Moon because it began a kid's show, and they fully intend (from the looks of things) to keep it that way.

Ranma was intended for a slightly older crowd. So I'm told, anyway...

[Innotech]

there is also the underrated and underappreciated show called I, MY, Me, Strawberry Eggs, in which a guy is so desperate (and really has no other choice to pay the rent)to become a teacher that he dresses completely as a woman (with help from an equally crazy old landlady who wants his rent or she'll kill his dog) to teach at a school with a crazy femininist principal. ITs funny, its cute, and the romantic parts of it are surprisingly good, even if it does also tread the line of pedophilia (the main girl character looks a bit young for the main guy) as well as transgender. Its such an unknown show it seems, a lot of people may enjoy it if they give it a chance (and know what theyre getting into)

[Higurashi Kagome]

You can buy them sure- you just can't watch any of it on TV. I know where you can buy Sailor Stars DVD's too. Soccer Mom's of America would never condone something such as Ranma on the television. Damn shame too, it's a REALLY great anime.

[ELR]

they won't release it because the kids would get wrong ideas of the sailor stars
they would think that they could change into the opposite gender

[Havana]

They didn't release it here in canada either, but they did release the other four seasons. The first and second season had many re-runs for a few years, before they introduced the other two seasons. Sailormoon is popular but the way they marketed it here is towards little girls, with those sailor moon dolls and they use to have a wand that flashes and sings music.O_o.

If they couldn't release that how come the fourth season.. and i've only the vhs version of 6 ranma episodes, before he turned into a girl. I think SM is supposed to be towards pre-teen and teen girls, but here it's much younger because of the toys and dolls they make from the show when it becomes popular. Even my four year old cousin would know.

[Fabala]

You can buy them sure- you just can't watch any of it on TV. I know where you can buy Sailor Stars DVD's too. Soccer Mom's of America would never condone something such as Ranma on the television. Damn shame too, it's a REALLY great anime.

Only speaking for the U.S., but if you do find it, and buy it, you will not be getting a professionally-subbed copy. You will be getting a fansub. I have no issue with fansubs (those of otherwise unavailable anime, that is). In fact, I've seen plenty that are far superior to the "professional" versions.

Even so. Don't be fooled. They aren't available in the states other than that. Not yet.

[Higurashi Kagome]

Oh, I know that. Heh. I meant Fansubbed DVD's. Those-are usually better than the 'professional subbed' ones anyway. Cheaper too, with a lot more episodes per disc for your money. All in all-they are the better buy. I seriously doubt the U.S will ever see Sailor Stars professionally subbed anyhow, so fansubs are probably the only bet one has to own them. :)

[Princess Minako]

VKLL is a really good fan subbing company that is around and that is where I got my VHS fansubs of Sailor Moon. VERY high quality.

The Goddess has Spoken

[Fabala]

VKLL is a really good fan subbing company that is around and that is where I got my VHS fansubs of Sailor Moon. VERY high quality.

The Goddess has Spoken

Agreed a thousandfold. I got subs by them long, long ago...well before half of season two, season three, and season four came out dubbed in the states. At the moment, they can only offer the SuperS specials and the Stars season. However, I've heard you can get the latter on their own specially-made DVDs now ^_~

[angel bee]

No, I never saw it either. it will probably premire when sailor moon comes back in June on cartoonnetwork.

[Higurashi Kagome]

I doubt it. They haven't gone through a half of the series. The Sailor Stars are like second to last in the SM series.

[inuyasha_rox_my_sox1089]

no, sailor moon stars has not been dubbed and never WILL be dubbed for the following reasons:
-the content portrayed in the last season of sailor moon would be VERY diffcult to butcher and dub down for children. (ex: starlights are men who transform into women which leads to seiya/star fighter to fall in love with usagi, which is "somewhat" a reference to homosexuality...even you think about it hard enough, which would be the case of DiC/cloverway)
-the north american companies that dubbed sailor moon (tokyopop/DiC/Cloverway/Pioneer/Geneon) have lost their rights to sailor moon/expired lisences (i don't think i can spell)...and will probably never renew them
-sailor moon's popularity has toned down A LOT....with the exception of many fans (including me! :p ) not many people like/remember/know about sailor moon anymore

sorry if this caused depression for you sailor moon fans...but it's the truth....:( but it's okay! you can always download/purchase online the last season...like i did!

[Kajima]

I Still Do Remember about Sailor Moon XD.

[Sailor Chibimoon]

Nope. Sailorstars was never shown in the USA. I saw all of the episodes though, by downloading them off of mIRC and from http://princessserenity.net though. I would try those.