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Gjallarhorn
01-06-2010, 03:43 PM
Bandai announced today a new "full" Code Geass anime, and published these two pages in NewType magazine.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2e1ep7d.jpg


No further info (release date, content, etc) is known yet. Some of the kanji on the magazine scan reads "revived" and "and then reborn".

Rolo Vi Britannia
01-06-2010, 10:35 PM
most likely a rewrite.

Raiden17
01-07-2010, 06:46 AM
I'm happy whatever it is. I'm just so glad you've brought me this news.

kimi no kioku
01-07-2010, 09:39 PM
Oh joy.... :{

AznOtaku
01-08-2010, 02:26 AM
I do not like the progression of this series. First season was great, second was OK, and if you're bringing back a martyr who disappeared for world peace, that completely renders the first two seasons as jokes.

Rolo Vi Britannia
01-10-2010, 01:36 PM
I hope by "Revive" they don't mean Lelouch coming back. I really don't want another FMA movie situation.

ParaParaJMo
01-16-2010, 04:59 AM
It would be nice if they revealed CC's real name

Rolo Vi Britannia
01-16-2010, 09:34 AM
It would be nice if they revealed CC's real name
I agree. It sucked because Lelouch learned it on R1, but they just replaced it with that dripping sound.

IcePriestess
01-16-2010, 10:41 AM
I don't mind if they revive Lelouch or not. Either way watching Code Geass is fun. From the picture it looks like it will not be just rewriting... I guess.

xXPainful SmilexX
01-16-2010, 10:45 AM
I don't mind if they revive Lelouch or not. Either way watching Code Geass is fun. From the picture it looks like it will not be just rewriting... I guess.

Since they're in their uniforms, we can't rule it out.

Battler Ushiromiya
01-31-2010, 03:33 PM
Bandai announced today a new "full" Code Geass anime, and published these two pages in NewType magazine.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2e1ep7d.jpg


No further info (release date, content, etc) is known yet. Some of the kanji on the magazine scan reads "revived" and "and then reborn".
Ok a few things.... and I am sorry but I must remain.... doubtfull...
What is with big bang attack?
The Zero figure in the background is on Suzaku's side.... by chance or dose suzaku become R1 lelouch for whatever reason, and Lelouch try to stop him from the shadows... ( seeing as he is hated and dead. )
Thats all for now...

The Butcher
01-31-2010, 03:38 PM
I read a different story line from this one,it was about someone who looked like Lelouch,but had a metal leg and could actually fight,plus it takes place in the Mideval times.

Rolo Vi Britannia
01-31-2010, 05:23 PM
I read a different story line from this one,it was about someone who looked like Lelouch,but had a metal leg and could actually fight,plus it takes place in the Mideval times.
Thanks for the new manga. This is something completely different.

The Butcher
01-31-2010, 06:43 PM
Thanks for the new manga. This is something completely different.
So it's a continuation?I heard it was the one I posted that was going to be the new one.

Gjallarhorn
01-31-2010, 07:27 PM
So it's a continuation?I heard it was the one I posted that was going to be the new one.

They haven't said what it is. Odds are it's either a continuation of some sort, or a remake/rehash. That image there and a few very vague statements by Sunrise is all the information there is.

wolfgirl90
02-01-2010, 11:54 AM
So it's a continuation?I heard it was the one I posted that was going to be the new one.

Its not a continuation, however the manga takes place during the main timeline of Code Geass, meaning the events of this manga had an effect on the events that lead up to the anime.

The tentative title is Code Geass: Shikkoku no Renya. So far, they have said that it takes place in the Edo period and its about a seventeen year old boy named Renya who has mechanical left arm (that apparently shots shuriken). He meets up with a girl named "Reifu C.C" (as if we don't already know who this is) who is apparently looking for new partner for a covenant.
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5533/codegeassshikkokunoreny.jpg


http://www.animeforum.com/image/thum_610394b670e9c6063e.jpg (http://www.animeforum.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=48621)

The "rebirth" or "revival" that they are referring to is more about the revival of Code Geass as a whole, rather than just a new series. They are planning on releasing a bunch of new projects such as the new manga, new music, etc. They are even releasing footage from the "Kiseki no Birthday" event that happened a while ago (this was a live event that announced the new projects).

In fact, sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but the article that Gjallarhorn posted does not announce that they are releasing a new anime (in any case that info would come from Sunrise, not Bandai). The article is an interview with Code Geass producer Yoshitaka Kawaguchi. What it DOES say is that Kawaguchi wants to announce an animation project with the Code Geass rebirth "soon" (meaning its what he wants to do, not that there actually is one). He has not officially said anything about a new anime being released (and took care not to). He said that, beyond the new manga that has been confirmed (and the new products that he has planned), he doesn't know what else will be part of this Code Geass revival effort. He did say that he, along with Code Geass co-creater Goro Taniguchi, are interested in doing a Code Geass stage production.:p

Rolo Vi Britannia
02-01-2010, 12:18 PM
Its not a continuation, however the manga takes place during the main timeline of Code Geass, meaning the events of this manga had an effect on the events that lead up to the anime.

The tentative title is Code Geass: Shikkoku no Renya. So far, they have said that it takes place in the Edo period and its about a seventeen year old boy named Renya who has mechanical left arm (that apparently shots shuriken). He meets up with a girl named "Reifu C.C" (as if we don't already know who this is) who is apparently looking for new partner for a covenant.
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5533/codegeassshikkokunoreny.jpg


http://www.animeforum.com/image/thum_610394b670e9c6063e.jpg (http://www.animeforum.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=48621)

The "rebirth" or "revival" that they are referring to is more about the revival of Code Geass as a whole, rather than just a new series. They are planning on releasing a bunch of new projects such as the new manga, new music, etc. They are even releasing footage from the "Kiseki no Birthday" event that happened a while ago (this was a live event that announced the new projects).

In fact, sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but the article that Gjallarhorn posted does not announce that they are releasing a new anime (in any case that info would come from Sunrise, not Bandai). The article is an interview with Code Geass producer Yoshitaka Kawaguchi. What it DOES say is that Kawaguchi wants to announce an animation project with the Code Geass rebirth "soon" (meaning its what he wants to do, not that there actually is one). He has not officially said anything about a new anime being released (and took care not to). He said that, beyond the new manga that has been confirmed (and the new products that he has planned), he doesn't know what else will be part of this Code Geass revival effort. He did say that he, along with Code Geass co-creater Goro Taniguchi, are interested in doing a Code Geass stage production.:p

Thanks for clearing that up. I can rest easy knowing they aren't making an R3.

The Butcher
02-01-2010, 01:48 PM
How is Code Geass going to be Code Geass without Lelouch,and robots?I'll give it a try though.

keiichi25
02-02-2010, 01:16 AM
Sad, because of that ending with CC. I would like a continuation(revelation) but not R3(since rebellion is over), the ending was great but i felt short...
Code geass would be dead without Lelouch lol, i personally think that their new project would fail miserably

wolfgirl90
02-02-2010, 11:50 AM
Sad, because of that ending with CC. I would like a continuation(revelation) but not R3(since rebellion is over), the ending was great but i felt short...
Code geass would be dead without Lelouch lol, i personally think that their new project would fail miserably

Depends on how you look at it. While Lelouch has made appearances in other Code Geass spin-offs, like Nightmare of Nunnally and Suzaku of the Counterattack, he is effectively a different person in each one. For example, while he lead the Black Knights from the rear in the anime, he is an active participate in the fighting in Nightmare of Nunnally. He even has a different Geass.

They made changes like this and the spin-offs did just fine.

The Butcher
02-02-2010, 01:20 PM
Depends on how you look at it. While Lelouch has made appearances in other Code Geass spin-offs, like Nightmare of Nunnally and Suzaku of the Counterattack, he is effectively a different person in each one. For example, while he lead the Black Knights from the rear in the anime, he is an active participate in the fighting in Nightmare of Nunnally. He even has a different Geass.

They made changes like this and the spin-offs did just fine.What Geass's did the other Lelouch's have?

xXPainful SmilexX
02-02-2010, 01:42 PM
What Geass's did the other Lelouch's have?
Something about controlling Knightmares I think.

Rolo Vi Britannia
02-02-2010, 01:49 PM
Come to think of it, Knightmare of Nunnally would be a cool anime. I'd like to see it.
I liked that manga, you can tell by my screen name.

wolfgirl90
02-02-2010, 04:40 PM
What Geass's did the other Lelouch's have?

In Nightmare of Nunnally, Lelouch's Geass grants him invulnerability through a suit of armor (the armor resembles the Zero outfit he wore in the anime), transforming him into a heavily armored version of Zero. With this suit of armor, he can fight on par with a Knightmare (even with Suzaku and his Lancelot). In Suzaku of the Counterattack, his Geass is effectively the same but the Geass symbol is slightly different and the rules (such as distance) are not followed as strictly.

The Butcher
02-02-2010, 04:48 PM
Was Kallen in these?

Rolo Vi Britannia
02-02-2010, 09:17 PM
Was Kallen in these?
Slightly. However, I am not sure about Suzaku of the Counterattack because I've only read the first volume.

wolfgirl90
02-03-2010, 03:19 PM
Was Kallen in these?

Kallen was in both. In Nightmare of Nunnally, her role is basically the same, her actions really only changing because of the different story.

In Suzaku of the Counterattack, she plays a slightly different role. She is much more skeptical of Zero in the beginning, since a faction of the Black Knights broke off (with Zero leading) and attacked without notice, killing numerous civilians. However, she eventually starts to understand Zero and his methods and, just like in the anime and manga, becomes a more than loyal follower of his.

Due to Kallen's unwavering loyalty, Zero places a Geass command on her, instructing her to take command of the Black Knights if anything were to happen to him. When he is captured (after killing the Emperor), the Geass command activates and Kallen takes command of the Black Knights, effectively becoming the new Zero.

Disciple-of-Jashin
02-07-2010, 05:54 PM
Sounds pretty cool so far, I love CG and hope this series is as good as the last two.

The Butcher
02-07-2010, 08:59 PM
Come to think of it, Knightmare of Nunnally would be a cool anime. I'd like to see it.
I liked that manga, you can tell by my screen name.
I agree,it has a lot of action.It would be awesome to see it in Anime format.

poshyterra
02-07-2010, 09:05 PM
code geass is perhaps my favorite anime and to hear this is great. i'm excited and hoping that this won't turn out crappy. thanks for the info...

neiladrian45
02-14-2010, 05:08 AM
"You must be ready to be shot if you're shooting other people- Lelouch Vi Britannia"

May be because of this saying lelou ordered suzaku to kill him
but because of this maybe he will be revived by the power of the kingshttp://gaiaonline.com

only a observation but i do really hope he will be revived and reborn



-neiladrian45 kun :):)

Rolo Vi Britannia
02-14-2010, 07:58 AM
"You must be ready to be shot if you're shooting other people- Lelouch Vi Britannia"

May be because of this saying lelou ordered suzaku to kill him
but because of this maybe he will be revived by the power of the kingshttp://gaiaonline.com

only a observation but i do really hope he will be revived and reborn



-neiladrian45 kun :):)
Hm? How does that imply he's alive?

The Truth in Blue
02-14-2010, 03:42 PM
I agree,it has a lot of action.It would be awesome to see it in Anime format.
I've heard some as of yet unconfirmed rumors that this may happen. So, yay.

Gjallarhorn
02-14-2010, 03:49 PM
only a observation but i do really hope he will be revived and reborn

Which would make the entire point of the first two series completely moot. I'd hate to see it go in that direction.

Rolo Vi Britannia
02-14-2010, 04:00 PM
Which would make the entire point of the first two series completely moot. I'd hate to see it go in that direction.
Same here. It makes the ending have no meaning at all.

MousE0910
02-15-2010, 08:36 AM
What about Lelouch being reborn into alternate reality... I know, lame :-)

kimi no kioku
02-15-2010, 10:34 AM
What about Lelouch being reborn into alternate reality... I know, lame :-)
Lol, he could be reborn into another anime. It would be called Code Geass: Lelouch of the Invasion.

wolfgirl90
02-15-2010, 01:25 PM
What about Lelouch being reborn into alternate reality... I know, lame :-)

That depends on what you mean by "reborn" and "alternate reality". Lelouch has appeared in three separate mangas since the end of the Code Geass anime (I'm not counting the Lelouch of the Rebellion manga since that's obvious): Nightmare of Nunnally, Suzaku of the Counterattack and Tales of an Alternate Shogunate. Each one has Lelouch as a character, but he either has a different Geass, different history or both.

Goro Taniguchi (director of Code Geass) has said on multiple occasions that, when it comes to Lelouch of the Rebellion, Lelouch died and he's not coming back. So Lelouch is not coming back this way.

Battler Ushiromiya
02-15-2010, 02:08 PM
Not saying I disagree, but if he was coming back do you think he would tell you?
Also to argue myself he prolly would have worded it differently and sortof dodged the question if there was a chance of him coming back.

wolfgirl90
02-15-2010, 02:48 PM
Not saying I disagree, but if he was coming back do you think he would tell you?
Also to argue myself he prolly would have worded it differently and sortof dodged the question if there was a chance of him coming back.

True. Of course, would both Taniguch and Ichiro Okouchi (the writer of Code Geass) participate in so many interviews and even write a eulogy for Lelouch (read by C.C) if they wanted an open ending?;)

Here are just a couple of things (I though some people might enjoy them, especially C.C's Monologue):

("Lelouch dead!? Was it a good one or a bad one!?" Excerpt of interview with Continue Magazine, vol 42)

-----Was there a dispute among the staff members regarding the ending?

Okouchi: No. It was decided fairly naturally. During the "Code Geass" script meetings, there were many cases in which there were a number of disputes, but there were barely any when it came to the scripts for (the previous series's) episode 25 and the final episode. I think everyone felt the same when it came to the end of the character that is Lelouch.

-----Why were you so bold as to choose this ending when the viewers might see it as a "Bad End"?

Okouchi: Bold... yes, we were so bold as to chose this ending. Perhaps the show that is "Code Geass" ending up this way was decided the moment Director Taniguchi and I teamed up. I suppose you can call it our sense of aesthetics, or perhaps a part of our psychological makeup.

------I see. So Lelouch's end was both your (Mr. Okouchi's), and Director Taniguchi's decision.

Okouchi: Which is why I think of both our and Lelouch's ends as "Happy Ends". I believe that there will be better things in the tomorrow awaiting Nunnally, Kallen and the rest who have been left behind. And surely Lelouch, who was able to make this into a reality, can only be happy (about this).

-----Some unresolved mysteries still remain.

Okouchi: From the very beginning, [I/we] never planned on explaining everything. In fact, if you ask me, I think we might have overdone the explanations. While it's undeniable that Lelouch's story has ended with a full stop, the other characters' stories are still on-going, and it's not like the world [of Code Geass] itself has come to an end either. [I/we] didn't want to end it by closing it up for good."

(C.C's Final Monologue)

"There was a boy.
He obtained the power to change the world, to create a new order.
The world was terrified of him, hated him.
... But, I know.
He, who passed away with a smile.
So. This is not a tragedy.
And yet, at the time, the night came where I sobbed with a sadness I wouldn't resist.
I lament. A dirge. The Zero Requiem..."

If they brought Lelouch back, that would be really weird and really awkward.:ninja:

Battler Ushiromiya
02-15-2010, 03:09 PM
never did see that before thanks.

Raiden17
02-16-2010, 03:45 PM
True. Of course, would both Taniguch and Ichiro Okouchi (the writer of Code Geass) participate in so many interviews and even write a eulogy for Lelouch (read by C.C) if they wanted an open ending?;)


Well it's proof that people are talking about it that the ending is relatively open. Otherwise everyone would accept that it ended in the way the writers intended and move on.

Any ambiguity is gonna be sezied on. That doesn't mean it was poorly ended. I prefer to have slight ambiguity. It makes it more interesting.

I think it's best for discussions if everyone recognises the authors intent and then throws it out the window briefly before bringing it back at the end of the hypotheses being discussed. That is my preference: the Death of the Author approach - anything expressed by the author/director etc... regarding the piece of art after the art iscompleted is regarded as irrelevant; if the author felt it was so important that they wanted that information to be integral to the viewer's understanding of the art, they should've made it more obvious.

Note: I'm in no way intending to criticise any views put forward by any member (the above quote was just one of many which spurred this thought of mine), nor am I intending to criticise the creators of Code Geass. After all I owe them so much joy.

makkuro kiba
02-16-2010, 06:26 PM
Sometimes I hate it when anime does this, makes a new anime, same name, different characters, -ehemyugiohmm- I do hope that it's good. It's not going to be the same though without Lelouch though.

Let's see how well that goes... The character designs look cool, I'll give them that much.

Gjallarhorn
02-16-2010, 06:50 PM
That is my preference: the Death of the Author approach - anything expressed by the author/director etc... regarding the piece of art after the art iscompleted is regarded as irrelevant; if the author felt it was so important that they wanted that information to be integral to the viewer's understanding of the art, they should've made it more obvious.

Was getting stabbed through the heart not obvious enough? Perhaps they should have stabbed him in the heart 50 times, and then blown his head off with an RPG. But I'm sure that even then fans would be coming up with the same bogus "Lelouche is alive!" theories they have been coming up with for the last year.


Fact is that the authors wanted him dead, so they wrote out the whole elaborate scheme of how his death would bring about world peace (Zero Requiem), and then they wrote his death, having him be stabbed in the heart, and bleed all over the goddamn place (dude must have had 50 gallons of blood, I swear). Magazine articles (specifically in NewType) after the end of the series talked about the message of the series, and all the characters who died, even giving an obituary. But, for one absurd reason or another, viewers just seem to be unable that this means he's dead. The script writers, undoubtedly baffled by this, made several statements in interviews that Lelouch did in fact die at the end of the series. And people still don't accept that he's dead? Bull.

makkuro kiba
02-16-2010, 07:14 PM
Was getting stabbed through the heart not obvious enough? Perhaps they should have stabbed him in the heart 50 times, and then blown his head off with an RPG. But I'm sure that even then fans would be coming up with the same bogus "Lelouche is alive!" theories they have been coming up with for the last year.


Fact is that the authors wanted him dead, so they wrote out the whole elaborate scheme of how his death would bring about world peace (Zero Requiem), and then they wrote his death, having him be stabbed in the heart, and bleed all over the goddamn place (dude must have had 50 gallons of blood, I swear). Magazine articles (specifically in NewType) after the end of the series talked about the message of the series, and all the characters who died, even giving an obituary. But, for one absurd reason or another, viewers just seem to be unable that this means he's dead. The script writers, undoubtedly baffled by this, made several statements in interviews that Lelouch did in fact die at the end of the series. And people still don't accept that he's dead? Bull.

The only thing that makes me think that he's still alive, is that in the pic there's a person that looks exactly like him but with longer hair...

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5533/codegeassshikkokunoreny.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5...kokunoreny.jpg)

I'm hoping it's just a look-alike, because not to be rude, but I think if he's dead he needs to stay dead. How many times does one person need to die before they're dead for good?

Gjallarhorn
02-16-2010, 07:40 PM
The only thing that makes me think that he's still alive, is that in the pic there's a person that looks exactly like him but with longer hair...

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5533/codegeassshikkokunoreny.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/5...kokunoreny.jpg)

I'm hoping it's just a look-alike, because not to be rude, but I think if he's dead he needs to stay dead. How many times does one person need to die before they're dead for good?

Your link doesn't work, but if you're referring to the image in this post (http://www.animeforum.com/showpost.php?p=2364262&postcount=34), then that is not an image from the upcoming anime. It's promotional art for a Code Geass prequel manga set in feudal Japan that will begin publication later this year.

makkuro kiba
02-16-2010, 07:52 PM
Your link doesn't work, but if you're referring to the image in this post (http://www.animeforum.com/showpost.php?p=2364262&postcount=34), then that is not an image from the upcoming anime. It's promotional art for a Code Geass prequel manga set in feudal Japan that will begin publication later this year.

Wasn't that the manga that he wanted to make into the anime though?

The Butcher
02-16-2010, 08:38 PM
I was hoping Suzaku(Or a rip-off of him)would not be in the show.

Gjallarhorn
02-16-2010, 08:58 PM
Wasn't that the manga that he wanted to make into the anime though?


No, it's something separate entirely.

Rolo Vi Britannia
02-16-2010, 10:13 PM
Didn't Lelouch get stabbed in the stomach?

I hope they do not ever bring Lelouch back. Personally, unless it's NoN, I'm not that excited about it....

Raiden17
02-19-2010, 06:38 AM
Was getting stabbed through the heart not obvious enough? Perhaps they should have stabbed him in the heart 50 times, and then blown his head off with an RPG. But I'm sure that even then fans would be coming up with the same bogus "Lelouche is alive!" theories they have been coming up with for the last year.


It's quite obvious he's supposed to be dead in this case. But can you see how it makes for a more interesting discussion when yuo entertain other theories even if you think they're wrong? I think the ending was pretty obvious, but on the other hand Mao was shot like a kajillion times and still didn't die so basically we're looking at a situation where the writers have trained the audience to not believe anything for absolute certain: hence the "Lelouch is alive" theories. I don't blame anyone for thinking that Lelouch is alive, and C.C.'s last words can easily be misinterpreted as a conversation with Lelouch (either a dead Lelouch who is conversing through the ether or a live one).

Anyway, the point is not Code Geass. The point is more general: conversations are more interesting when you entertain other people's ideas. Even if they're wrong. I think homeopathy is bull, but it doesn't stop the fact that the conversation about homeopathy is more interesting if I engage in it rather than just just blindly saying "No, you're wrong".
No offence intended to people who use homeopathy. I just needed an example for the sake of argument.

wolfgirl90
02-20-2010, 06:53 PM
Anyway, the point is not Code Geass. The point is more general: conversations are more interesting when you entertain other people's ideas. Even if they're wrong. I think homeopathy is bull, but it doesn't stop the fact that the conversation about homeopathy is more interesting if I engage in it rather than just just blindly saying "No, you're wrong".
No offence intended to people who use homeopathy. I just needed an example for the sake of argument.

Its one thing to entertain, but its another thing to just roll with something for no reason. If do not agree that homeopathy works, I will explain WHY I do not think that it works; I am not going to go along with it simply for the sake of conversation (of course, one doesn't have to agree with me).

If I not only do not agree with the "Lelouch is alive" theories but also think that they are unfounded, I am not going to agree with them simply for the sake of conversation. Of course, in this case, the ending of Code Geass is not an open-ended subject like homeopathy where no one person is right or wrong. When it comes to Lelouch's death, there's only one interpretation: Lelouch is dead (what can be interpreted is whether or not his death has happy or tragic).

I do agree that Hollywood (not just anime) does set people up for not accepting the deaths of certain people. To the point that even if someone like Lelouch is impaled by a sword and falls, smearing his blood all over the place, people won't believe that he is dead. Some people won't believe a death unless the character his their head explode (and only if it occurs onscreen).:closedeye

Battler Ushiromiya
02-20-2010, 09:31 PM
I have seen characters in anime come back from worse than what lelouch did, and they had no reason to be able to like lelouch does.
Should he be dead? Yes
Is he dead? For now
Do all anime characters stay dead 100% of the time even when creators say they are dead? NO

What I am saying is money has a really good influance on who lives and dies in anime and real life....

Lulu is prolly dea and never going to come back, but at the same time I WILL NOT BET MONEY ON IT!
Also I think as long as everyone thinks he is dead then it is ok. At what point in the show did Lelouch do anything straight foward and not hide something for everyone besides CC?
Anyways he is dead until money or dragon balls bring him back from the dead, and then I WILL spam 1000 "lelouch is Jesus" threads all across the interwebz.

keiichi25
02-22-2010, 02:14 AM
Both of you guys had a point..
But im with Raiden17.. it would be much interesting if you hear both sides without arguing..
In my case, iam to be a believer(Lelouch is alive) for two reasons,1.The anime's nature(like what Raiden17 said bout Mao),2.I disregard writters statements
and not to be for one reason,the writters statements

Gjallarhorn
02-22-2010, 02:34 AM
1.The anime's nature(like what Raiden17 said bout Mao),2.I disregard writters statements
and not to be for one reason,the writters statements

Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works, etc.



The anime's nature is determined by the writers. The writers wanted Lelouch dead in the end. They said early in production that they wanted Lelouch dead in the end. They attest to that in the interview posted on a previous page. The reason they had to go out and say "Lelouch is dead!" after the show was over was because they were annoyed with the absurd conspiracy theories fans had been making because they wanted to believe Lelouch was a live.


As for the whole homeopathy arguement...that works great for subjective discussion, but it doesn't work at all for objective fact. "Lelouch is dead" means Lelouch is dead. I'm not going to ignore a blatant fact for the sake of discussion.

keiichi25
02-22-2010, 04:04 AM
Then they should have cleared the ending.. Scenes like CC riding on a cartwheel talking to Lelouch(or herself) and Nunnaly's vision after touching dying Lelouch (if its symbolic then its RUDE,a scene like Suzaku explaining everything to Nunnaly after Zero Req would be better).
It leads to fans creating assumptions ... Assumptions based on the anime's nature(to not believe anything for absolute certain),thus conflict..
IMO, the ending as an OPEN ENDING was great, but their statements makes it DULL(or should i say they've used reallife testimonials bcuz the anime failed to deliver it)...

Rolo Vi Britannia
02-22-2010, 06:26 AM
Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works, etc.



The anime's nature is determined by the writers. The writers wanted Lelouch dead in the end. They said early in production that they wanted Lelouch dead in the end. They attest to that in the interview posted on a previous page. The reason they had to go out and say "Lelouch is dead!" after the show was over was because they were annoyed with the absurd conspiracy theories fans had been making because they wanted to believe Lelouch was a live.


As for the whole homeopathy arguement...that works great for subjective discussion, but it doesn't work at all for objective fact. "Lelouch is dead" means Lelouch is dead. I'm not going to ignore a blatant fact for the sake of discussion.

That's exactly right. It doesn't make sense to deny the writer's statement for the sake of conversation.

Raiden17
02-22-2010, 06:47 AM
Well I'm gonna just say this about all the criticisms of "Death of the Author": all of your criticisms are founded, but here's why I think it's a great thing to deny a writer's statement for the sake of discussion:

The writer's statement is clearly fact. He created it, therefore his last words on the matter are fact. I'm not going to try and deny that.
Here's a side point to my argument which is relatively unimportant: just remember the Star Wars argument about Han shot first. I'm not suggesting that saying Lelouch is dead has the same effect on the character and the anime as removing the important character trait of Han solo being the type of guy to not give a damn and shoot first. By no means is Lelouch being dead a rubbish thing, let alone something that should be deliberately ignored by everyone all the time (as we should ignore the "corrections" that George Lucas made). I just think it might be interesting for once to ignore the post-anime comments of the creator very briefly before remembering "Hey, but none of that actually matters because Lelouch is dead".
Here's my justification for saying that it's interesting:
I'm an atheist, don't let this cloud your view of my reasoning...
I often have discussions with my friends, some of whom are religious, some not, regarding the nature of a higher power. Throughout every other part of my life I run with the conclusion that there is no god. But for these brief moments I run with the hypotheses that there is a god. These discussions are made infinitely more interesting and valuable to all of us because I engage in this brief denial of what I consider fact.
It is my belief that the same process applies to the Lelouch is dead issue. I conclude through every other part of my life (not that it's often relevent) that Lelouch is dead, including in most discussions that I have about Code Geass (for example the thread on who Lelouch should end up with: I want Lelouch to be dead so that he can live in the anime's afterlife with Shirley, and I beleive Lelouch to be dead because the writers declared it as well as most of the anime acting as evidence). However there are times where it's more interesting to me to deny fact briefly for the sake of an interesting discussion because there's other things you find out when you do that: things about yourself, character traits about the people/things involved in the discussion etc...)
Anyway that's all, if you disagree then that's totally fine, I just thought it would be a nice experiment to discuss complete hypotheticals by ignoring the obvious facts.

Gjallarhorn
04-22-2010, 09:51 AM
The title and basic story of the new anime have been released today. Sunrise will once again animate it, and character design will again be provided by CLAMP.

The title of the series will be Code Geass GAIDEN Boukoku no Akito (Code Geass GAIDEN The Ruined Land of Akito).

It will follow a Knightmare unit of 11 youths who go on an operation to save comrades stranded on the European front of Britannia's world conquest, with their odds of success being only 5%.

procrastinator_zerokiryuu
04-22-2010, 01:53 PM
I'm thoroughly confused about this news. I've seen it on ANN a few months before, but I thought they were just going to expand the CG franchise or something (putting aside the new manga)?

Gjallarhorn
04-22-2010, 02:37 PM
I'm thoroughly confused about this news. I've seen it on ANN a few months before, but I thought they were just going to expand the CG franchise or something (putting aside the new manga)?

All that was said before was Banday saying there would be a new anime, with no more info than that. Today Sunrise gave more details about the anime, including a title and short plot summary. That's about it.

Rolo Vi Britannia
04-22-2010, 04:18 PM
Please don't let them ruin the first series.

The Butcher
04-22-2010, 05:39 PM
When is this Anime releasing?

The Truth in Blue
04-22-2010, 10:20 PM
GAIDEN suggests it's a side story. Sounds interesting, through. It'll probably be really short, though. Shame.

Gjallarhorn
04-22-2010, 11:08 PM
GAIDEN suggests it's a side story. Sounds interesting, through. It'll probably be really short, though. Shame.

GAIDEN suggests a prequel, since it just means "origins", and they said it takes place before the original two series.



When is this Anime releasing?

No release date has been set. Some time this year, so probably the fall or winter.


Please don't let them ruin the first series.

That's what R2 was for.

Rolo Vi Britannia
04-23-2010, 06:57 AM
That's what R2 was for.
I actually loved R2 and didn't like R1.

Rei
04-26-2010, 12:28 AM
...felt R2 was better than R1. At least that's my opinion.

Darkseid
04-29-2010, 06:44 PM
I loved both.

I found this info:

http://www.animevice.com/news/new-code-geass-anime-gaiden-boukoku-no-akito/4297/

The just is that it's a sequel and war has broke out again. No info on past characters.

I'm worried, but I'll wait to see it to judge.

CastleInTheSky
04-29-2010, 07:49 PM
I cant wait to see the new CG anime. :) Lulu I love you even if you did die your just so damn sexy! Especially in yaoi -drools-

Rolo Vi Britannia
06-13-2010, 02:50 PM
I do not think this looks good. Lelouch is gonna be alive... ;(

Assiduous✡Aristocrat
06-26-2010, 11:47 PM
I plan to watch it as soon as it airs.

brokinglass
08-01-2010, 05:50 AM
yeah but i kind of think the ending was so that lelouch would atone for the sins of the world and then be reborn in some sort of jesus kindof way???????? idk that would be cool though

whereswally007
05-08-2011, 08:07 AM
does anyone have an update

is it out yet or been cancled etc???

if its out has it been subbed or dubbed etc??

Gjallarhorn
05-08-2011, 10:47 AM
It isn't out, so it couldn't possibly be subbed or dubbed.

The anime was announced and that was the last thing that happened with it. It's probably still in production stages - getting funding, having the script written, putting directorial and editorial teams together, and getting a team of animators together. For a high-budget series ~25-50 episodes in length, there's typically about a year or pre-production involved.

Ookami-San
05-09-2011, 12:54 PM
i know you guys won't agree with me, but if Lelouch returned, i would just want to watch this more. Tbh, it isn't Code Geass without Lelouch.
(And i admit that i've read pretty much every single conspiracy theory, and i actually found one that was believable, The one where they state that he takes his fathers immortality.)

I'm going to get shi-t for this aren't i?

Digimon_Som
05-09-2011, 08:37 PM
Oh, really...Sommy likes...

Code Geass For-evah and evah, darling...


My Wi-Fi, it's gone out...

suishou
05-24-2011, 03:48 AM
I read that it was a whole different story.... the characters only looks like cc, lelouch and suzaku.... Anyways, it would really break my heart if lelouch is not there but Im still looking forward to watching it! :D

Screwby
06-27-2011, 10:40 PM
Has any new info been released?

Darkhallows
07-11-2011, 01:05 PM
i know you guys won't agree with me, but if Lelouch returned, i would just want to watch this more. Tbh, it isn't Code Geass without Lelouch.
(And i admit that i've read pretty much every single conspiracy theory, and i actually found one that was believable, The one where they state that he takes his fathers immortality.)

I'm going to get shi-t for this aren't i?

Well, I agree with you. If it bothers you, don't watch it. I loved Lelouch as a character, and dunno how good the show would be without him. How would it "ruin" the show? It's not like the old episodes are being changed...

Gjallarhorn
07-12-2011, 03:10 AM
Well, I agree with you. If it bothers you, don't watch it. I loved Lelouch as a character, and dunno how good the show would be without him. How would it "ruin" the show? It's not like the old episodes are being changed...

It would utterly defeat the purpose and message of the second season. Lelouch focused the hatred of the world on himself to unite everyone against him, and to demonstrate that everyone can get along just fine if there is a goal to be striven for; the capstone to this (the "Zero Requiem") was the death of Lelouch himself at the hands of someone perceived to be a hero ("Zero").

Kaien
07-12-2011, 09:33 AM
I didn't read yet the new code geass but i know that there's a new series long time ago and if i'm right..Code Geass: Shikoku no Renya had currently 8 chapters, so when it comes to be an anime? or just ongoing in the manga?

Darkhallows
07-19-2011, 11:21 PM
It would utterly defeat the purpose and message of the second season. Lelouch focused the hatred of the world on himself to unite everyone against him, and to demonstrate that everyone can get along just fine if there is a goal to be striven for; the capstone to this (the "Zero Requiem") was the death of Lelouch himself at the hands of someone perceived to be a hero ("Zero").
Well... yeah. But it could be an alternate universe like the manga ;D.

Digimon_Som
07-21-2011, 06:35 PM
Lelouch should have a jetpack in the near future...


My Wi-Fi, it's gone out...

OtakuInu!!!
08-06-2011, 02:01 PM
Based on this report (http://www.jpopasia.com/news/third-season-of-code-geass-confirmed::8373.html) it's confirmed that they'll have a third season.

But I don't think it's fully related with Lelou.

My overall view: Yays~! Lol. But I expected that they'd be in line with the manga. I didn't expect that they'll just create a new installment for the series.

Assiduous✡Aristocrat
01-16-2012, 04:22 PM
This thread needs to be bumped.
New information regarding the movies and OVA have been released.

Gjallarhorn
07-17-2012, 06:19 PM
A trailer is out for the new series, a semi-sequel in the form of an OVA.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMN0VMJfRxA


People who got an advanced screening in Japan have confirmed that both C.C. and Suzaku make brief appearances.

The official English title is Code Geass: Akito the Exiled.

MariannaB
07-17-2012, 06:33 PM
I wish it was a season 3, but I'm happy with an OVA, though I wish that it revolved around Lelouch because I still believe that he is alive, even after the events of the second series.

Gjallarhorn
07-17-2012, 09:43 PM
The creators of the show have confirmed (over and over) that Lelouch is dead, and any future series would not follow the same storyline as the original series.

Fossa
08-04-2012, 02:50 PM
The creators of the show have confirmed (over and over) that Lelouch is dead, and any future series would not follow the same storyline as the original series.

Really? Then may i ask for some solid proof Like atleast a link?

Gjallarhorn
08-04-2012, 04:52 PM
Here's a review (http://atashi.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/code-geass-r2-the-complete-official-guidebook-review/) of the official guide book; the book states he is dead several times.

I'd look up one of the interviews in the Japanese publication of NewType as well, but I don't speak Japanese so searching for it is a bit out of the question - not to mention the articles on it are 4 years old. They basically came down to the creators getting mad that there was so much "Lelouch is alive!" speculation, and decided to put an extra nail in a coffin they'd already closed.

They spell out that he died in the show (you know, the whole stabbed-in-the-heart, fountain-of-blood thing). The only suggestions that he didn't die are from crazy fan theories because they didn't want him to die.

Fossa
08-04-2012, 05:38 PM
Here's a review (http://atashi.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/code-geass-r2-the-complete-official-guidebook-review/) of the official guide book; the book states he is dead several times.

I'd look up one of the interviews in the Japanese publication of NewType as well, but I don't speak Japanese so searching for it is a bit out of the question - not to mention the articles on it are 4 years old. They basically came down to the creators getting mad that there was so much "Lelouch is alive!" speculation, and decided to put an extra nail in a coffin they'd already closed.

They spell out that he died in the show (you know, the whole stabbed-in-the-heart, fountain-of-blood thing). The only suggestions that he didn't die are from crazy fan theories because they didn't want him to die.

Thank you FINALLY some solid proof i've been looking for for years.To bad though C.C and Lelouch would have been an awesome couple.Damn i can never give up that Lelouch may be alive becouse of the hole Charles gave him his code thing when he strangles Lelouch.
And btw do you know C.C's real name?I heard some speculations that her real name is Shizuku becouse when Lelouch says her name at the same time a waterdrop falls and what's waterdrop in Japanese?
SHIZUKU! C.C Most awesome woman in any anime ever! Apperantly she appears in Akito the exiled aswell can't wait.

ParaParaJMo2
08-28-2012, 04:28 AM
It would be weird if her real name is Shizuku considering she might not even be Japanese in origin lol. Maybe it's tear drop in her native langauage?

I already saw this movie in theaters when it came out. It's ok so far. It comes across as more mech-centric as opposed to political thriller like the TV series. Akito so far is an archetypical mech main character to some degree. He is the highly skilled ace, but yet homocidal and anti-social, and the movie series so far has not done anything to make him really at all relatable, but still he is a curious character.

~OTAKYU~
01-12-2014, 10:51 PM
Ehem now i dont really think Geass is going to be connected here because the new MAIN character is Akito not Lelouch