Vizards power

[goddragon]

1st sorry if the any spelling is wrong and 2nd this one is about their power. Does anyone think that their power could be more than a mask and some powers. I belive that once they get more powerful they could look like espades. Maybe if it happened ichigo could beat Aizen. What do you think?
Here is what I think Ichigo could look like.

http://www.animeforum.com/image/thum_16472049a4b76505960.jpg (http://www.animeforum.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=41280)

[ichimoku_fanboy]

yeah, you spelled it right...

i read somewhere that Aizen was able to stop Ulquoira (i think thats how his names spelled) with just his spiritual pressure, so thats pretty powerful without even using his zanpaktou, plus he stopped Ichigo's bankai with a finger, and not even Byakuya could do that...

it might be a stretch, but if Ichigo had help from Yamamoto and the rest of the 13 division captains, they might win, but i predict that a lot of them are gonna get killed in the process... theres a little foreshadowing pointing towards that conclusion... urahara would definitely be in that battle, they've put WAY to much into open assumption that hes freakishly powerful, and no doubt hes gonna pull out some new technique or experiment thatll maximize a vizard's power....

just my (really) long opinion....

[Magical Soul]

That would be a cool plot twist.

[skinnyp]

maybe they could use their hollow powers more efficiently or something? What I don't get is how Aizen is so freaking strong. He said the reason he wanted the Orb was because Shinigami have a stop on their power because they can only maximize the 4 techniques of theirs. But since Vizards and Arrancars both blur the distinction between the 2, shouldn't they be naturally stronger than Aizen? So that means Ichigo won't really need anything more. But of course I hardly see it playing out that way. There's going to be more, I just don't see how it can happen...

[tsujigiri15]

maybe they could use their hollow powers more efficiently or something? What I don't get is how Aizen is so freaking strong. He said the reason he wanted the Orb was because Shinigami have a stop on their power because they can only maximize the 4 techniques of theirs. But since Vizards and Arrancars both blur the distinction between the 2, shouldn't they be naturally stronger than Aizen? So that means Ichigo won't really need anything more. But of course I hardly see it playing out that way. There's going to be more, I just don't see how it can happen...

I dunno. I mean a shinigami can be more powerful than an arrancar - think of all the recent fights in Hueco Mundo - the 10-5 espada were all defeated by shinigami captains. So I guess the average arrancar is stronger than the average shinigami, but there is a big range, and its implicit that aizen was already very strong as a captain. Then the whole point was to get more powerful still, so where before he was probably at near Yama-jii's level, he will have got some hollow powers somehow, and be more powerful still! Scarey

But yes, I think in the final conflict the vizoreds are gonna be important, cos using your hollow mask does make you more powerful, and as they were all captains/vice captains anyways, they mustve allready been at hitsuguaya's level, so now maybe they are on par with the top 3 espada

[BestFly]

The difference in power between the 10-5 and the 4-1 Espadas seem to be very large. Granted, Shinji (who is probably the strongest of the vizards) seemed to be much stronger than Grimjow in their short encounter.

It's important to note that we have yet to see espadas 3-1 release, at the same time none of the vizards (aside from Ichigo) use their bankai so we have no real measurement of their power.

[goddragon]

If you read the newist chapter than do you think that is a real power that shinji and the others have or was it just a fluke. Also do you think he will be able to control the power later on? If he can do you think he could beat Aizen and Yamamoto?

[Gjallarhorn]

If you read the newist chapter than do you think that is a real power that shinji and the others have or was it just a fluke. Also do you think he will be able to control the power later on? If he can do you think he could beat Aizen and Yamamoto?

It's a different power from the other Vaizards, as when Ichigo underwent the change into his new form, his physical state changed. His hair has grown much longer, and he seems to be more muscular(at least in my opinion).

When the other Vaizards changed into their Hollow forums, they still had the same physical features.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

It's a different power from the other Vaizards, as when Ichigo underwent the change into his new form, his physical state changed. His hair has grown much longer, and he seems to be more muscular(at least in my opinion).

When the other Vaizards changed into their Hollow forums, they still had the same physical features.

I wouldn't say that they can't do this second level hollowfication junk, it's simply that they've never been shown to do it. In every battle they've shown them in their masks have been more then sufficient. It's possible they haven't pulled it out because of some downside, such as being difficult to control or something else.

[tsujigiri15]

I wouldn't say that they can't do this second level hollowfication junk, it's simply that they've never been shown to do it. In every battle they've shown them in their masks have been more then sufficient. It's possible they haven't pulled it out because of some downside, such as being difficult to control or something else.

I agree - I mean Ichigo just ran his buddy through! - I mean thats more than he did even when he was an uncontrolled hybrid, like in his fight against byakuya. Maybe there is a more controlled, less drastic second release - but if you are more hollow, it is almost certain you are more evil.

Also further to the discussion of Shinji - even if he has mastered a second release of some sort, you can bet aizen will have too. Shinji was described by aizen as a good test subject, so he (aizen) presumably has acquired a more ideal form of hybrid ability - based on the 'results', and was probably more powerful to start with anyways.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Also further to the discussion of Shinji - even if he has mastered a second release of some sort, you can bet aizen will have too. Shinji was described by aizen as a good test subject, so he (aizen) presumably has acquired a more ideal form of hybrid ability - based on the 'results', and was probably more powerful to start with anyways.

I don't even know that he needs to have hollow'd himself yet. Certainly it's his ultimate plan, but the upper limits of Shinigami power are still pretty high. Yamamoto defeated three Arrancar with one non-Bankai attack.

[Arrancar Grimmjow]

Spoiler: It already happened to Ichigo. I don't know if it's good thing or not, but I definitely think he could beat Aizen in his espada-vizard form.

[Manhattan_Project_2000]

Spoiler: It already happened to Ichigo. I don't know if it's good thing or not, but I definitely think he could beat Aizen in his espada-vizard form.

Have you, like, ever read a Shonen Series? No amount of power ups will ever let you defeat Big Bad (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigBad), the only way to do it is though the Power of Friendship (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThePowerOfFriendship?from=Main.PowerOfFriendship). All power levels (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerLevels?from=Main.PowerLevel) are fundamentally arbitrary.

[wowzabunny]

Vizards are not hollows. they are shinigami that gain hollow powers. they cant get a hole. although ichigos new form has a hole

[Sagat]

Spoiler: It already happened to Ichigo. I don't know if it's good thing or not, but I definitely think he could beat Aizen in his espada-vizard form.

Don't think I agree, considering Aizen blocked Ichigo's strike in Bankai with one single finger. So maybe with his mask, Aizen will have to use his hand? And maybe his sword to block a strike from the true hollow Ichigo?

Until he does something like put his own hollow mask on, in which case it's back to the finger.

[goddragon]

Do you think at this state he could take on yamamote and win. Also do you think that there are even more stages then this?

[Virendar]

I'm thinking that Ichigo has the ultimate hollow in his body, and aizard will try to make a deal with this hollow

[Rivette]

Like someone said earlier, I think it's a possibility that the captains will fight with Ichigo against Aizen.
But maybe the Vizards and Ichigo's friends (Orihime (if she's not captive), Chad, Uryuu) will assist with this battle?

[goddragon]

This one is a little of topic, but what do you think will happen to nell, shingi, and all the others after the battle with aizen(if they survive).

[Paain]

the vaizaado could probably obtain that power by communicating mor with there hollow side and also ...i seriously hope ichigo isnt the one to fight aizen no offense agianst him but i think someone else whos competent should have that battle

[Ranryou Roga]

i think urahara, and isshin r vivard as well. Making both very powerful. we dont kno urahara's bankaiyet, nor do we ko isshin's zanpakuto name so alot is really unknown right now. not tp mentain kyoraku's or ukitake's bankai. leet alone yamamoto's. so twqo much to wait on.

[Paain]

<p>Like someone said earlier, I think it's a possibility that the captains will fight with Ichigo against Aizen.</p>
<p>But maybe the Vizards and Ichigo's friends (Orihime (if she's not captive), Chad, Uryuu) will assist with this battle?</p>
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No offense to chad and orihime but they are incompetent only uryu would be useful

[Heinekenrana]

Chad is far from useless. There are some things he can do we just haven't seen yet (Or at least, *I* haven't seen yet, since I'm stuck watching the dubbed eps of Bleach that AS airs). But trust me, he's not useless at all. :)

[Rivette]

Chad is far from useless. There are some things he can do we just haven't seen yet (Or at least, *I* haven't seen yet, since I'm stuck watching the dubbed eps of Bleach that AS airs). But trust me, he's not useless at all. :)

Yes. Kubo-san should make a huge come back for Chad. They should also show off these other Vizards. I mean, Hiyori and Shinji are great, but the others hardly any love!

[goddragon]

What do you think will happen to hitsugia? My theroy someone we havn't seen fight yet will jump in and save him.

[yakman1692]

I personally can't wait to see Urahara bankai, and as for Hitsugaya, I'm sure someone will save him like always.