View Full Version : Anybody agree: L died, the whole anime died with him
teh_mouse
08-10-2008, 07:11 AM
I <3 Death Note, it really is my fav anime i've seen, my only objection was that when they killed off L it started to suck really badly, i mean the way Near beat light was nothing compared to some of the things he avoided whilst he went against L. =[
Sagat
08-10-2008, 09:13 AM
I don't think it sucked at all. L was great and I really liked him, but it was original to have such a character die halfway through the series. I never saw it coming. I kept expecting it to be some kind of plot on his part to trick Light but nope, he was dead.
The series needed to show Light fully transforming into Kira. As long as he was fighting L that would not happen. I personally enjoyed seeing his progression into more and more of a psychopath with a God complex once most of his obstacles were out of the way. I felt the deleted scene with Light laughing maniacally at L's grave really highlighted this.
Kersheys
08-10-2008, 09:37 AM
I don't think it was exactly L's death that killed the story (I'd say anime but I never watched it). IMO the entire Near arc was fail D:
3pleT
08-10-2008, 12:01 PM
the same thing all over again. L was your fav char, he was killed off, now you fail to see that near and mello are not much worse than him simply because you convinced yourself that it's not the case and you remain close minded about it. if near and mello came before L, you'd think the whole anime died with them. they're as good as L, but you can't see it, because most of L's brilliance has been shown in the very beginning of DN, so near and mello are simply unable to show anything new.
Memento Mori
08-10-2008, 12:42 PM
I think L's death killed the story, it's wife, and all it's offspring.
But... that's a different story. Anyway, the story was so boring, the only episode I watched from L's death was the last one, because it became so repetitive, and overall boring.
Jerry Pie
08-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Death Notes storyline was a bit of a FAIL situation. No offense to Death Note fans, but it appears that a lonely smart kid would find a book to kill people is just too simple. After the first four episodes I gave it quits for watching it. So, either way if L died it still didn't make a difference to Death Note.
Sailor Mystery
08-10-2008, 01:10 PM
It was still awsome but not as awsome of when L was alive.
I love L.
Sagat
08-10-2008, 01:22 PM
I get such a kick out of people who claim not to like the Death Note series after only watching a few episodes.
And to clarify, Light is anything but a lonely kid. He is actually incredibly popular. Had he been a depressed, emo smart kid, then it would have been typical. However, Light had everything going for him, which makes it not so.
Death Note has one of the best stories I've seen in an anime. If you don't like it, I recommend you go watch Inuyasha or maybe Naruto. Maybe something a little more linear and a little less cerebral is more your cup of tea.
Your Father
08-10-2008, 02:11 PM
If the series wouldn't of introduced Near and Mello it would heve been a top 10 for me.I figured a letter could have replaced them.
Opinionated
08-10-2008, 02:49 PM
Quite honestly, I thought that L being alive or dead made no difference to the quality of the series. In fact, I think that the absolute worst episodes were while L was alive. In short: No, I don't agree.
xXdark_angel_nekoXx
08-10-2008, 04:25 PM
well let me say that when L died......... I died too inside i mean. but with near and mello in it after he died i think that it kinda was good.
Leeps
08-11-2008, 04:00 AM
No, I think it stayed the same, maybe even got slightly better, But I liked Death Note for the storyline, I didn't really like the Characters at all. (Misa and Near only really)
So yeah, I don't think the series died along with L.
godsofdeathluvapples13
08-11-2008, 11:20 AM
Not true. Truthfully speaking when Light died the series died or ended. But when L died the series was lacking the amazing sugar craving genuis!
But when L died the series was lacking the amazing sugar craving genuis!
You mean when Mello died?
xox.aisubeki.xox
08-11-2008, 12:07 PM
L is my absolute favorite. So i was reali bummed when he died. i don't think the series reali died to but it got a little slower for me. c[:
Mello an Near did make it more interesting. because insted of just L vs Light it was Mello vs Near vs light (kinda) xP
i like Deathnote because it was one of the only series that made me think...
i have read the manga and watched the anime ( own them both )
ReveredSoul
08-13-2008, 03:05 AM
L was my #1 favortie character in deathnote, i was sad that he had died, but it was neccessary, because without L's death light's character developement wouldnt be able to expand further, and IMO near and mello both annoyed me, they werent the same as L and all his amazingness lol
Cpt Fox McCloud
08-13-2008, 03:12 AM
I think it was supposed the happen, because Kira wanted to rule the world by killing L right? And he died. So what's the point? He's dead it's over with, Kira died L got his revenge if you think about it.
godsofdeathluvapples13
08-13-2008, 01:25 PM
You mean when Mello died?
No when mello died the series only lacked chocolate but when L died it lacked doughnuts, coffee, lollipops, etc.
lawlietth
08-13-2008, 02:30 PM
yeah when L died, everything was so different *sighs*
L was my fave character of the story <3
but i don't think the anime died ^_^ I still loved it
Yuki Atsuma
08-13-2008, 02:54 PM
I don’t think that the show went completely down the drain when L died, but I admit that the show did loose some of it’s spark. L just made it more interesting. Near is okay, but I don‘t think he even compares to L.
xXdark_angel_nekoXx
08-14-2008, 08:48 AM
But when L died the series was lacking the amazing sugar craving genuis!
yes that is so true and i cried after that.
You mean when Mello died?
well no and yes and we are talking about the great L.
Itsurazu na kiss
08-14-2008, 02:48 PM
I agree after Lawliet Died the whole series had no meaning to it and i hate that! Now its it was a mistake and L gave Light the wrong name he could still be alivebut Rem was the one who killed L and really that sucked!
Opinionated
08-14-2008, 03:32 PM
The Great L? I dunno, you'd think that if he was the world's top three dectectives, he might be a little more suspicious of his top supsect after he discovered that the scare test he used on Light and Misa was, for all purposes, invalid. But, nope. He acts like catching Higuchi solved everything, even though he already statisfied himself that there were several Death Note killers. Contrast with Near, who never wavered on his belief that Light was Kira, something that L did with annoying frequency. "Light is Kira. Light's not Kira. Light's probably Kira. Light's not Kira. Now he is again."
Cross Avantgarde
08-15-2008, 09:13 AM
Like M Bison, I thought L's death was a ploy set up in order to rope in Light. Unfortunately, this was not the case; however, I still watched with as much excitement as I had when L was alive during the investigations of Mello and Near. As has already been stated, it was very original to have a main character die in the series before its conclusion, no matter how much I hated it. I bet that many people found that this solidified their disgust for Kira, and watched with glee as the net tightened around him via Near's deductions and Mello's tactics. I think it was done with skill, and I don't feel that the series lost anything but a fantastic main character, one of the best in anime I've ever seen.
The Great L? I dunno, you'd think that if he was the world's top three dectectives, he might be a little more suspicious of his top supsect after he discovered that the scare test he used on Light and Misa was, for all purposes, invalid. But, nope. He acts like catching Higuchi solved everything, even though he already statisfied himself that there were several Death Note killers. Contrast with Near, who never wavered on his belief that Light was Kira, something that L did with annoying frequency. "Light is Kira. Light's not Kira. Light's probably Kira. Light's not Kira. Now he is again."
I agree that Near was very forward and focused on the fact that Light was Kira, but I don't think L ever wavered on this point. The closest he came to that would be when he got into the limousine and thought to himself, "Light Yagami...are you not Kira?" As the series' creator said, though L said that Light only had about a 7% chance of being Kira (in the coffee shop), he really meant over 90%!
The test that he performed on Light and Misa was valid in that no one knew of the Death Note's existence or even how Kira killed his victims, only that he needed a name and a face; Light had this information concerning his father, and the test was witty, I thought. It still didn't erase L's suspicion, as he said before he died that only one piece of evidence was needed to nail Light (the fake rule Light wrote into the Death Note). L was about to test this fake rule when he died.
I agree with you about Near, but I don't think L was capricious at all; he would've solved the case in thirteen days had he not died.
xXdark_angel_nekoXx
08-15-2008, 10:05 AM
I agree with you about Near, but I don't think L was capricious at all; he would've solved the case in thirteen days had he not died.
that is so true and aslo that, if L didn't die he could have solve that case in 13 days.
Manhattan_Project_2000
08-15-2008, 09:46 PM
I don't think the series necessarily died but I did feel that L's death was very much the high point in the series. Near and Mello were much less believable as geniuses. Not that the intelligence of any of the other Major characters is believable in the least.
In fact, I kind of feel distasteful about the story looking back. There are two ways to pull off a genius characters in fiction. Either make a character that's a genius in his setting, or make a setting that makes a genius of a character. The latter is what Death Note (and Code Geass for that matter) does, and it's much less believable then the former. On multiple occasions I was shocked, not because the given character was so smart, but because Light, L, Mello, and Near are apparently all Kwisatz Haderach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwisatz_Haderach)s. I mean, if you are going to give the characters powers that operate outside of reason, then at least go ahead and label it as such.
Anime Forum
08-16-2008, 04:39 AM
I don't think L's death killed the series but the Mello and Near characters seemed a little disjointed. The characters were created with certain personality flaws, but Near and Mello seemed a bit too flawed, which made them seem disjointed. Maybe it was intentional to show even though they can bend spoons with their mind, they're still just immature kids.
So, I think the quality did decrease somewhat after L's death but, it didn't really ruin it.
Tomoyo01
08-16-2008, 05:02 AM
I agree, I don`t even see the reason why I kept watching after L died, my friend got angry and said she won`t watch anymore, maybe the best decision, after L`s death the whole thing becomes boring and it just isn`t DN anymore.
Akihiko Yamamoto Hozagaki
08-16-2008, 08:47 PM
I definitely disagree, it added quite the twist (an intelligent one at that) to the series. Think about it this way: if L lived, the show would either continue on in a very silly way (ex. He finds another clue, but for one reason or another he can't accuse Light, rinse, wash, repeat), OR, the series would be short and he'd catch Light. This also added the twist that bad guys (?) can actually win sometimes. It was a very clever and well thought-out process in the way he died too. Don't get me wrong, I love L. He is certainly my favorite character, but I love Death Note too. I personally loved how the story went from after his death.
Bring Me The Horizon
08-16-2008, 08:50 PM
I think that since L did die it just gave the creators and writers some more time to make it better and to compensate for the death of L
Shin Natsume
08-16-2008, 09:51 PM
I wouldn't say the anime died at all. Maybe the next episode was kind of slow but things remained pretty good. After all, they did introduce a new character. And it isn't as if N is as clever as L to begin with. They even say that N and Mello is the equivalent of L -_- Great anime, though I don't like the "Whats up people" opening.
il-LUMINA-tion
08-22-2008, 02:17 PM
I don't believe the manga died with L... it was definitely a plot twist no one would have seen coming.
I will however say that after reading the chapter with his death in it - I didn't pick up the series again until about 4 months later when I finished the series in about a month. Hehe... I do think his death was a peaceful one though.
In the end, he won; in one form or another.
--Lumina--
Judging from most of "agrees" in this thread, the title of this topic should really be "Bishounen died, yaoi potential (thus my reason for watching) died with him."
I mean, when L died, it was the same crap different day. The only difference is that the new protagonists weren't bishounens.
kira-killed-me
08-29-2008, 09:15 AM
Nope, mello came in at that point so it got better.
!Deidara*Senpai*Chaaan!
08-29-2008, 09:38 AM
I agree. When Lawiet died, everyone said "EPSIODE 26 IS THE LAST EPISODE OF DEATH NOTE" When it wasn't...Nate River was a stupid gay MF and Mihael Keehl...he was half the L substitute, and Mail Jeevas...his eyes were EYE candy :laugh: :tongue: But when the M&Ms died...the show made us look back at L and say: This show is totally pointless..and the yaoi potential...is gone. *turns off DeathNote and watches Code Geass and Bleach instead* :banghead: I just wanted to STRANGLE Nate!! :banghead: :banghead: He talked and something in my brain just went," :mad: :banghead: DIE NATE RIVER!!" And the part when Raito was barking at Lawiet's grave...it was HILARIOUS but it made me want to kill Raito even more...but i'm glad I didn't seeing as how he was the one who created a YouTube phenomenon.
kira-killed-me
08-29-2008, 10:30 AM
To quote my signature i think
"I heard that people stopped watching death note when L died... although I think more people stopped watching death note when Light died."
shinzou
08-30-2008, 08:29 AM
To quote my signature i think
"I heard that people stopped watching death note when L died... although I think more people stopped watching death note when Light died."
lol, that's good as....
but yeah, I can't say death note "died" when L did, but I definately think that L's death made death note a little less interesting for me. But at least Light was still there, otherwised I'd just plain stop watching...
Johnny_C
08-30-2008, 08:30 AM
I wouldn't say it died, but significantly decreased in quality.
kira-killed-me
08-30-2008, 09:54 AM
It didn't die it changed.
It has a different feeling about
Dark-Sasuke
08-30-2008, 12:13 PM
Would say there was a change of atmosphere, but thats all good coz death note kicked *** from start to finish, shame about L though, he was my fav character
kira-killed-me
08-31-2008, 11:39 AM
L's death stopped it from being the same thing over over over again.
Orcius
08-31-2008, 11:55 AM
L's death made the serries worse but it didnt exacly kill it. The serries then just fell into a coma, it has sevier internal bleeding, and it's stomach acid is burning its soft tissue.
wordfarer
09-01-2008, 09:15 PM
I kept watching to see those quick flashes of his face when Light compares him to Near, but also in some hopes that Rem died for killing Watari before she could kill L and L somehow knew he was supposed to die too and faked it... I digress.
StarryStarryNight25
09-10-2008, 10:11 PM
When L died, i just about died. I got really pissed off. My sis came in and asked what was wrong. And when i told her she said "he is just a charecter in a weird series" She just dised L and i stoped watching the series. But i read all of the manga
tabby123456
09-11-2008, 01:37 AM
My friend who loves L nearly cried when i accidentally told her L dies and spoiled it for her. =]
the point of the manga was L against Light! you'd always want to know what happens next....
after L died it just wasnt as thrilling.....
Rikumi
09-11-2008, 05:09 AM
I didn't froze when I knew he died. I knew that from the beginning he wouldn't win against Kira at first. So~ uhm...He was my favorite character though. I like guys with eyes like his. =^w^=
-|[Frank]|-
09-11-2008, 06:50 PM
i thought the show sucked for the next few eps after L died,and I didnt really like Near and Mello - but it started to pick up towards the end; especially when Light started to involve his high school girlfriend (and news reporter?). I also thought the show kind of lost some of the suspense that many of the other episodes had:closedeye
I have to admit though, after L died, i dont think i saw another episode until like 6 months later:unsure: ....he was an awesome character...
The way the show ended was really good! lol after I saw it; i was left in that "I don't feel like doing anything now..." kind of mood haha
Your Father
09-11-2008, 07:14 PM
I didn't froze when I knew he died. I knew that from the beginning he wouldn't win against Kira at first
He did defeat Kira.Through Mello and Near.He set them up with everything.
Kitezer
09-12-2008, 12:58 PM
The whole Anime series was good. But personally the first 15 episodes or so were by far the best. I wished L stayed throughout the whole series. It made things much more interesting.
kishi
09-28-2008, 07:31 PM
I <3 Death Note, it really is my fav anime i've seen, my only objection was that when they killed off L it started to suck really badly, i mean the way Near beat light was nothing compared to some of the things he avoided whilst he went against L. =[
beleive
i complitly agree with you
when l died i stoped watching it i just can t taught about " he is no longer there"
it wasn t a good thing to kill L
it is so frustrating!!:closedeye
Android 19-90
10-01-2008, 08:33 PM
When L died Death Note punched itself in the crotch.
That's about it....
Kubisa
10-10-2008, 05:45 PM
Not really, the Near arc was pretty good, although I will admit quality did go down.
Cathastrophe
10-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Yeah, Near was good.
But due to the fact Near wasn't introduced until half the show, and the Anime was based mostly based on L and Light, who the hell expected L to ACTUALLY die? Seriously, probably injured. Or an (Near[Hehe, I said Near]-Death Situation), I mean when L died. I was like, Yeah he's gonna wake up in a minute. 20 minutes. In a episode, in TWO episodes..I swore that guy didn't die.
Yeah I think so too....the story became so boring when L died...
TriciaRose~
10-20-2008, 06:54 PM
I don't think so. =/
I think that L was a great character...but the show must go on! And the rest was still pretty good, I think.
*~Lily_Gemini~*
10-20-2008, 06:56 PM
i cried and i cant watch deathnote without crying. i loved L alot, and i almost always half expect him to jump out sometimes, but he never does.
Katy_Cat
10-21-2008, 09:06 PM
L and Misa are my favorite characters..
so L dying- I stopped watching the anime.
Frost Alchemist
10-21-2008, 09:15 PM
Dude lets just say this, L was the reason the anime ruled
*Tsuki*
10-21-2008, 09:30 PM
well, I really hated the fact that L dies, but if he didn't and he solved the case in 13 days then it would just be the whole . . . "Good guy always wins" sorta thing. I mean sure in the end the good guy won, but still. If L had just won that way and not died then the ending would be completely different. I mean, he wins just because he waits for 13 days. that pretty much sucks as an ending. When he dies then a whole new chapter opens up and then the ending is more . . . thought out. I mean, sure Near isn't like L but he still solved the case in a way that led to gaining people's attention. . . I know it doesn't make sense. oh well. I still like the ending.
Besides, L still was right, "Justice will prevail."
Blue Stone
10-21-2008, 09:52 PM
L Lawliet>Nate River.
Dace Penton
10-22-2008, 08:25 AM
Yeah I agree I think the death of L was the main killer of Death Notes second half
crazyflower
10-23-2008, 11:04 PM
i thought that DeathNote was just as good after L died. i thought the ending was really good.
Misa Uchia
11-02-2008, 04:22 PM
Totally ! L was in my opinion the best character on DeathNote.
Nimbus Blou
11-09-2008, 08:30 AM
After L died and Neal came in, I immediantly stopped watching Death Note. Without L, the spark was gone.
Dr. Hax
11-09-2008, 08:35 AM
After L died and Neal came in, I immediantly stopped watching Death Note. Without L, the spark was gone.
I stopped watching Death Note when fangirls were all "ZOMG L IS SO HAWT LULZ!!!"
As I've said in my blog rants over and over again...Fangirls suck. They ruin everything.
I didn't mind the storyline where L dies, Mello comes into the picture and gets knocked off, Near comes in and helps to stop Light.
Nimbus Blou
11-09-2008, 04:45 PM
I stopped watching Death Note when fangirls were all "ZOMG L IS SO HAWT LULZ!!!"
As I've said in my blog rants over and over again...Fangirls suck. They ruin everything.
I didn't mind the storyline where L dies, Mello comes into the picture and gets knocked off, Near comes in and helps to stop Light.
Of course, I never said that I was all "gushy gushy," over L. Its just that L made the series so enjoyable to watch, that once he was gone, and Near was brought in, I lost interest and he seemed so boring compared to L.
Dr. Hax
11-09-2008, 05:03 PM
Of course, I never said that I was all "gushy gushy," over L. Its just that L made the series so enjoyable to watch, that once he was gone, and Near was brought in, I lost interest and he seemed so boring compared to L.
Then you're one of the few I truly respect for not being a fangirl.
SigmaSD
11-09-2008, 05:08 PM
I get such a kick out of people who claim not to like the Death Note series after only watching a few episodes.
And to clarify, Light is anything but a lonely kid. He is actually incredibly popular. Had he been a depressed, emo smart kid, then it would have been typical. However, Light had everything going for him, which makes it not so.
Death Note has one of the best stories I've seen in an anime. If you don't like it, I recommend you go watch Inuyasha or maybe Naruto. Maybe something a little more linear and a little less cerebral is more your cup of tea.
You are so right Sagat. Even thought L died, Light was still around, and he didn't get off the hook. There was also Near and Mallo who were just as smart as L. But I do have to somewhat a agree with people that L was really awesome. (I though he was a human that acted like a shinigami)
ToushiroPwnz
11-21-2008, 08:54 AM
I don't think it sucked at all. L was great and I really liked him, but it was original to have such a character die halfway through the series. I never saw it coming. I kept expecting it to be some kind of plot on his part to trick Light but nope, he was dead.
The series needed to show Light fully transforming into Kira. As long as he was fighting L that would not happen. I personally enjoyed seeing his progression into more and more of a psychopath with a God complex once most of his obstacles were out of the way. I felt the deleted scene with Light laughing maniacally at L's grave really highlighted this.
yeah.. what he said. and L was awesome, he is my favorite Death Note character.
*~Anime Angel~*
11-21-2008, 05:15 PM
I totally stopped watching Death note after that! Without L it was just not that interesting anymore. Also Light was just plain stupid by killing him so i just did not want to look at his evil face anymore!
.Gogo
11-22-2008, 12:21 AM
The relationship between Light and L made the series so interesting. Without L, that dynamic is gone, and unfortunately their whole tug of war which was a main focal point of the story is now gone. So I understand why some people don't like Deathnote without L. I personally have only read the manga, and haven't read so far as to even get to L's death, so I can't offer my personal opinion on this matter as of yet.
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IchIiGo
01-05-2009, 06:23 AM
i agree
if there is no L in this anime ... the story will not be Good at all
chan-chan
01-05-2009, 11:00 AM
Quite true.. N is not as 'captivating' as L. L vs Light is really interesting to watch!
MakuHari
01-13-2009, 07:49 AM
I don't think it sucked at all. L was great and I really liked him, but it was original to have such a character die halfway through the series. I never saw it coming. I kept expecting it to be some kind of plot on his part to trick Light but nope, he was dead.
The series needed to show Light fully transforming into Kira. As long as he was fighting L that would not happen. I personally enjoyed seeing his progression into more and more of a psychopath with a God complex once most of his obstacles were out of the way. I felt the deleted scene with Light laughing maniacally at L's grave really highlighted this.
I have to agree completely. I love the Death Note series and I completely support and love L but for the sake of the series he did have to die. I honestly don't think the series would have been so great if L continued to live because he'd have found proof that Light was Kira and that would have ended the series. The whole transformation into Kira is what really made the series. The fight with L was simply the beginning.
sanders49
01-19-2009, 12:53 AM
When L died the entire anime didn't go with him but a good chunk of it did, from then on everything seemed rushed
Bliss
01-25-2009, 08:14 PM
i was sad when L died, and i shunned death note for a while, but then i watched the rest of the series... it wasokay
TrucyTrucy
01-27-2009, 05:31 PM
Meh, I sort of lost interest in the series after L died. :/ I made it through a couple more episodes before I got bored.
The anime didn't die...but it got badly injured. xD
Mango
02-04-2009, 09:44 AM
Well I read the manga, but yeah I agree. Light and L had so much chemistry, watching them engage in their battle of wits was really interesting. Once he died it lost that spark. I found Near pretty boring tbh, and Light didn't seem as smart as he used to be.
Although that being said, I thought it was pretty awesome when L died. Light pulled it off spectacularly. ;p
AnimeGirlX95
02-17-2009, 12:54 PM
I agree! When L died the whole anime fell apart and it died with him. R.I.P. L!!!!!!!!!
ichimoku_fanboy
03-10-2009, 10:53 PM
for the most part, there wasnt really any oomph behind the motives of the characters after that... no real plotline...
I don't think the anime 'died' after L's death, although it wasn't quite the same without his odd, quirky ways. It still managed to keep me gripped, and I watched it to the end. I think it would've been a shame to have stopped watching just because my favourite character died.
Ah, L. May he rest in sweets.
Zenga
03-19-2009, 03:23 PM
The story did kind of die when L died. It lost most of it's energy. Also, the way Near caught Light was stupid, nothing compared to what L threw at him. Not that I'm bashing Near or Mello, it's just they didn't leave as much as impression. L was charismatic, adorable, and endearing, so much so he drew attention to his heirs.
I tried to watch the episodes after his death, but they were just too boring. I could only watch f4 or 5 episodes, including the ending (which was a BIG disappointment).
Mika Miaka
03-20-2009, 12:13 AM
I get what you mean, OP. I was disappointed to see L die too, and was incredibly shocked at the occurrence. I thought they were going to have a crazy epic battle at the end . . . but alas, no. :(
But, I don't think it sucked after L died, because Light turned even more insane and I <3 insane Light. He's a total jerk but I am such a Light and L fangirl, :O
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Please try not to use that word as an insult. - Cless
yeah when l died then it didnt matter if you were a l or light fan, the anime just went down hill
Magical Soul
03-23-2009, 02:14 PM
I loved the whole thing, though it did sink a bit when he died...
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