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AltecXP
06-18-2008, 09:57 AM
I'm sure this was brought up before but.....

They mention that there are 4(?) families of SS we know one is that little princess, another is the family that adopted Rukia and there is a 3rd and 4th...dont they mention that 1 of the families has disapeared or not been heared from? Is it possible that is Ichigo's father?

It seems teh popular theories are:
1. His father was kicked out with the other 2
2. His father faked his death

Kelly-Anne
06-18-2008, 03:56 PM
How is this for you?

Isshin use to be the former 11th division Captain before Kenpachi but he fell in love with a woman he could not be with (Ichigo's mum) Kenpachi challenged Isshin to a death fight to be the Captain of the 11th division and Isshin got Urahara to make a gigai which looked like him, the Gigai is what Kenpachi fought and defeated and with Isshin presumed dead he went to earth to be with the woman he loved.

AltecXP
06-19-2008, 08:13 AM
It works, but Ive been thinking. I may be mis-quoting here but I haven't seen the Ep where his dad is a shinigami in a while. Doesnt hea say:
(when refering Urahara) that he is "our" best friend
when refering to knowing things about SS and Ichigo what "we" know?

That sounds a LOT like how the nobles speak.

Rukia_L_Uzumaki
06-19-2008, 03:07 PM
I think he may have been in 2nd squad with Yoruichi and Urahara back in the day. Maybe even captain once Yoruichi is kicked out of SS...

Hollow Ichigo
06-20-2008, 09:25 PM
Here we go again.

Ok here is what I say. Issun is the father of the former 13th lit. Who was killed by Rukia. After his poor death I think he lost his will and was challenged by Zaraki. He lost and used Urahara to get away. This caused Urahara to lose his position as captain because this was the first time that a gigai was used.

He fled to the human world, where he meet Ichigo's mother. They fell in love and had their children. Now this is were it gets good.

If i'm right does Karin look that the Shiba clan women that help Ichigo and the others get into SS. Yeah.

Ichigo and whats his name that uses the bombs, and sand techniques. Yeah him. Don't they act as brothers. I think they do. I think that Issun changed his name. This allowed him to go on as a human with his power suppressed. So their you go.

Souji Seta
06-21-2008, 02:04 AM
Hey, how did you know all this? I don't read the manga much. What chapter is it?

Gjallarhorn
06-21-2008, 02:14 AM
Here we go again.

Ok here is what I say. Issun is the father of the former 13th lit. Who was killed by Rukia. After his poor death I think he lost his will and was challenged by Zaraki. He lost and used Urahara to get away. This caused Urahara to lose his position as captain because this was the first time that a gigai was used.

Um...what? Dude, none of that was in the manga.

Isshin was the former captain of the 13th Division. He was not the father of what's-his-face that Rukia killed. For unknown reasons, at some point in time, he fled to the human world, where he lived as a normal human,fell in Ichigo's mother, had Ichigo Yuzu and Karin. He also somehow knows Urahara.

By the current manga flashback, Urahara's reason for leaving Soul Society had nothing to do with Isshin's. In fact, Isshin hasn't been shown in the manga at all (even in flashbacks) since it was revealed he was a former Captain.

noir_charisma1109
06-24-2008, 11:59 PM
Um...what? Dude, none of that was in the manga.

Isshin was the former captain of the 13th Division. He was not the father of what's-his-face that Rukia killed. For unknown reasons, at some point in time, he fled to the human world, where he lived as a normal human,fell in Ichigo's mother, had Ichigo Yuzu and Karin. He also somehow knows Urahara.

By the current manga flashback, Urahara's reason for leaving Soul Society had nothing to do with Isshin's. In fact, Isshin hasn't been shown in the manga at all (even in flashbacks) since it was revealed he was a former Captain.

I have to completely agree with you... none of that was in the manga.. (=w=)\''' Two things: He was not the father of the 13th lieutenant that Rukia killed.. this point didn't really matter to me that much.. but what really matters is Urahara's reasoning for leaving the SS had nothing to do with the motives of Isshin. If you would like to know the true motives of Urahara's reasonings for losing his position, then go check the manga ^^~ It's probably one of the newer chapters of the manga (based on www.onemanga.com)

goddragon
06-25-2008, 12:32 AM
the new chapter is out with why he had to leave and about the others

Archaic Devices
06-25-2008, 12:58 AM
How is this for you?

Isshin use to be the former 11th division Captain before Kenpachi but he fell in love with a woman he could not be with (Ichigo's mum) Kenpachi challenged Isshin to a death fight to be the Captain of the 11th division and Isshin got Urahara to make a gigai which looked like him, the Gigai is what Kenpachi fought and defeated and with Isshin presumed dead he went to earth to be with the woman he loved.

Great theory =o

noir_charisma1109
06-25-2008, 05:51 PM
How is this for you?

Isshin use to be the former 11th division Captain before Kenpachi but he fell in love with a woman he could not be with (Ichigo's mum) Kenpachi challenged Isshin to a death fight to be the Captain of the 11th division and Isshin got Urahara to make a gigai which looked like him, the Gigai is what Kenpachi fought and defeated and with Isshin presumed dead he went to earth to be with the woman he loved.

I also like that theory too, it seems reasonable (>w<)

Souji Seta
06-26-2008, 10:01 AM
Um...what? Dude, none of that was in the manga.

Isshin was the former captain of the 13th Division. He was not the father of what's-his-face that Rukia killed. For unknown reasons, at some point in time, he fled to the human world, where he lived as a normal human,fell in Ichigo's mother, had Ichigo Yuzu and Karin. He also somehow knows Urahara.

By the current manga flashback, Urahara's reason for leaving Soul Society had nothing to do with Isshin's. In fact, Isshin hasn't been shown in the manga at all (even in flashbacks) since it was revealed he was a former Captain.

I asked before what chapter it is then I got to finish reading the chapter, "Turn back the pendulum" and "Let stop the pendulum." I guess it was his own theory about the matter.

Aizen was behind everything. The existence of the Vizards or how they became vizards. Urahara and Tessai's punishment to be banned from Soul Society, everything.

Hollow Ichigo
06-26-2008, 01:54 PM
Well everyone jump on the kid for saying what he thinks. Man you people are crazy.

Anyway. I would love to see a fight between Ichigo's dad, and Aizen.

goddragon
06-26-2008, 02:55 PM
How strong exacly do you think Ichigo's dad is. Who would have equal power with him.

OminousCloud
06-27-2008, 04:27 AM
We know 3 of the noble clans already, Kuchiki, Shiba and Shihouin. Personally, I want Isshin to be a former captain of division zero, he's one of my favourite chacraters so I want him to be fully h4x.


Um...what? Dude, none of that was in the manga.

Isshin was the former captain of the 13th Division. He was not the father of what's-his-face that Rukia killed. For unknown reasons, at some point in time, he fled to the human world, where he lived as a normal human,fell in Ichigo's mother, had Ichigo Yuzu and Karin. He also somehow knows Urahara.

By the current manga flashback, Urahara's reason for leaving Soul Society had nothing to do with Isshin's. In fact, Isshin hasn't been shown in the manga at all (even in flashbacks) since it was revealed he was a former Captain.

13th division, when did we find that out?

Souji Seta
06-27-2008, 08:53 AM
Oh yeah, wasn't it stated that the longest reigning captains are Yamamoto Genryusai Shigekuni, Ukitake Joushiro and Kyoraku Shunsui. Joushiro is the 13th squad captain. It makes more sense if Isshin was the 11th squad captain.

Hollow Ichigo
06-27-2008, 03:03 PM
Oh yeah, wasn't it stated that the longest reigning captains are Yamamoto Genryusai Shigekuni, Ukitake Joushiro and Kyoraku Shunsui. Joushiro is the 13th squad captain. It makes more sense if Isshin was the 11th squad captain.

Thank you. Jushiro and Kyoraku were the first captains. Along with the old man. If anything I think my story is the best. Why look like the Lit. of the 13th. Their is some connection. So yes I may not read the mania but hey I think i'm close.

Take a picture of Karen and a picture of the Shiba clan women and look at them side by side. Almost twins. Then look at Ichigo, and the Lit. The same. Plus Ichigo and Ganju act like brothers. So I think that it is one of two things.

One Issun is the head of the last family.

Or two that He is the true head of the Shiba Family. I think if any of the old captains like Jushiro or Kyoraku were to see him or feel his sprititual pressure the would know who it was. So yeah this is going to be good.

honeysenpai17
06-27-2008, 03:05 PM
Ichigo's dad is a myserrious guy

OminousCloud
06-28-2008, 01:14 AM
Here we go again.

Ok here is what I say. Issun is the father of the former 13th lit. Who was killed by Rukia. After his poor death I think he lost his will and was challenged by Zaraki. He lost and used Urahara to get away. This caused Urahara to lose his position as captain because this was the first time that a gigai was used.

He fled to the human world, where he meet Ichigo's mother. They fell in love and had their children. Now this is were it gets good.

If i'm right does Karin look that the Shiba clan women that help Ichigo and the others get into SS. Yeah.

Ichigo and whats his name that uses the bombs, and sand techniques. Yeah him. Don't they act as brothers. I think they do. I think that Issun changed his name. This allowed him to go on as a human with his power suppressed. So their you go.

Your theory is alright but...
In the Bount Arc I think they name the previous squad 11 captain... After Kaien dies Kukaku (his sister) and Ganju (his brother) start to despise Rukia and Juushirou because of their involvement in their brother's death. If Zaraki had killed their father (who you say is Isshin) I think revenge would have been a good option, considering their personalities.

Karen and Yuzu are twins and they look pretty similar except for their hair colour, black from Isshin and brown from their mother. If you look closely at the characters, all the males look like a spin off of Ichigo, so facial similarities and things shouldn't be taken too seriously, it's just the mangaka's drawing style...

The manga has revealed in detail why Urahara lost his position as captain and why he was exiled.

noir_charisma1109
07-02-2008, 09:38 PM
Well everyone jump on the kid for saying what he thinks. Man you people are crazy.

Anyway. I would love to see a fight between Ichigo's dad, and Aizen.

sorry for scaring you..:p
anyways, i would also like to see that scene as well.
(Ichigo's dad vs. Aizen) that would be really interesting

xXdark_angel_nekoXx
07-17-2008, 04:55 PM
How is this for you?

Isshin use to be the former 11th division Captain before Kenpachi but he fell in love with a woman he could not be with (Ichigo's mum) Kenpachi challenged Isshin to a death fight to be the Captain of the 11th division and Isshin got Urahara to make a gigai which looked like him, the Gigai is what Kenpachi fought and defeated and with Isshin presumed dead he went to earth to be with the woman he loved.

that is aswome thanks for tell me. now i know. what happen to him.


Um...what? Dude, none of that was in the manga.

umm... not to brust your bubble.......it is in the manga right now.