Old School Gundam Awesomeness

[B Gundam]

Many people who watch Gundam nowadays started off with Wing or SEED, but barely know the main timeline of the Universal Century other than from hearsay or immature "what's the best..." debates.

So what was it like back then, before 2 second poses in crucial battle moments and everyone having funny haircuts? When Gundams were still actual war machines and not scythe wielding/angel winged knights of justice or looked overly colorful/flashy? How was it back in then, when the plotline wasn't ripped from a previous version and doomed to be called a cliche by those who knew it?

Here's a compilation of some series from the 1st, original, longest and only constant Gundam timeline, the Universal Century in Chronological (not production order!) order of the timeline (with exception of MS IGLOO, which should be the 1st), special attention should be given to the parts of the Amuro/Char saga (Amuro is the 1st Gundam Hero and Char the 1st Antagonist) which are marked with *:

Mobile Suit Gundam (aka 0079, 1st Gundam)*:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98fbtTQVDNA

MS IgLoo (The Hidden One Year War/Apocalypse 0079):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy182b-2_CI

The 8th MS Team:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFJNTSVzCv0

0080 - War in the Pocket:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVQLDVQ-ZNQ

0083 - Stardust Memories:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Y61sZ5CXc

Z Gundam*:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tf-eXG5f9Q

ZZ Gundam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pJyVFCYL5o

Char's Counterattack*:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBsaTaINsbk

Gundam Unicorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ7NyIjMzUI&

Gundam F91:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1tTTAq6ohc

Victory Gundam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd8yN7gEflc

(There are some missing)

[Aizmov]

you missed Gundam Victory :D

but I agree, UC is the best Gundam timeline.

what I like about the original Gundam, is that it was more about the war as a whole and not some super hyper undefeatable Gundams, there was a lot of focus on the characters and how their ideologies develop and what side they take during the war.

[Hanzo_DarkIce]

omg Gandam MS 8th team rules...its has my fav. moble sult Ez8

[Gundam78]

Good **** man good ****, no theme out there is better than, 8th team rules, 0083, zz hands down

[B Gundam]

It has Victory now, and Gundam Unicorn (not an Anime).

Feel free to look at the stuff you don't know about.

[raziel]

zeta gundam is my fave from the uc time line.

[B Gundam]

G Generation Spirits has been released recently, featuring all the old school stuff. The whole G Generation got filled with UC only leaving out all Alternate Universes, so its the true "Old School" G Gen.

[dollmage]

i watched them all and i luv them all i only watched gundam from G-wing up to GX and GGod then when the Seed Series came out i realy dont like it no offense to the fans i just got a copy of the m8th's team and watching it now i luff the story <3 after that im a watching a copy of igloo ei bout Gundam Unicorn i luv the way the mechs look um how would you rate it? if its realy good say story plot battle scenes? :D if its realy good im a gettin a copy

[B Gundam]

Gundam Unicorn is as mentioned, not an Anime/OVA/Movie, its a book actually, that was a promo video to visualize some of things of the story, such as how the Gundam transforms into Full Destroy mode. If you ask me to rate any of them I can tell you that none will drop below 7/10 overall for me, Victory Gundam, Gundam ZZ and probably 0080 are the borderline ("worst" of the listed) in my personal opinion, but still worth seeing (at any rate, I wouldn't recommend not seeing any of them). The best are 8th MS Team and Char's Counterattack (my opinion), but to fully enjoy Char's Counterattack you need to watch the 1st Gundam and Z Gundam before it.

The 1st Gundam gets an honour place, it is very old and the graphics animation are aged (the video in the post does not show from the Anime, these are game cutscenes made at a later time). But in its time (1979) it was one of the best Anime ever and deeply influenced Anime overall. read this (http://www.animeforum.com/showthread.php?p=1926171&postcount=3) and you''ll know what I mean.

[dollmage]

1979 =( , i dun think i could get any vid like that ^_^ 90's i could but never 80's below too bad =( oh well tnx for the info

[B Gundam]

You can watch a part of it on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kikaider17

Click "Play All" on "Mobile Suit Gundam_First Movie" Playlist.

[dollmage]

=( i wanna see the whole show ill try and find Mobile Suit G. so i would know more bout mech. and the G. History although Gundam-G is in a diff. parrarel universe i think its good what you think GB?

[B Gundam]

G Gundam is a fun show to watch. It is not like most Gundams about wars and stuff, more a martial arts saga like Dragonball or Naruto, but with Gundams and a different storyline.

[dollmage]

ehehehe and i think Deimon (did i wrote it ri8?) has the most shining attack with his Shining Gundam skill Shining Finger hehehehe kinda reminds me of TP Takamiya from BTx you know btx wonder if that belongs on mech section if so i would try to make a thread bout it and see if any one knows bout it

[B Gundam]

Its Domon and his finishers shouts are fun. I mean everytime you hear this "HIIIIITO ENDO!!!" you know someone got pWned.

[yoko.......]

that suxs there like not in english Lol

[dollmage]

yeah its so kewl, heeheheh really luff that series i even got a copy of whole epi on dvd *_*

[B Gundam]

that suxs there like not in english Lol
Thats probably because most Anime are not from english speaking countries, you're in the wrong forum then.

[Aizmov]

Gundam Unicorn? Can you tell us more about it, I know it is a novel, and there are rumors about an anime.

[yoko.......]

Thats probably because most Anime are not from english speaking countries, you're in the wrong forum then.
no most anime turns into english and i know for a fact that they change the voices characters too. =]

[dollmage]

no most anime turns into english and i know for a fact that they change the voices characters too. =]


ahhh that's call dubbing the only anime~ish that was made pure english was avatar and yet it is still under debate whether its an anime and almost anime that have a gra8 impact towards Televise/ing are made by Japan which are naturaly japanese offcourse.

READ THIS ONE VERY IMPORTANT FACT'S FOR YOU YOKO
In filmmaking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_production), dubbing or looping is the process of recording or replacing voices for a motion picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture). The term is most commonly used in reference to voices recorded that do not belong to the original actors and speak in a different language than the actor is speaking. "Dubbing" can also be used to describe the process of re-recording lines by the actor who originally spoke them. This process is technically known as automated dialogue replacement, or ADR.
Although dubbing is most common with film, television series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_series) are sometimes dubbed as well (mostly popular Hollywood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood) series and serialized Japanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan) anime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime) that have received foreign distribution). Foreign-language films and videos are often dubbed into the local language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language) of their target markets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_market) to increase their popularity with the local audience by making them more accessible.


any way on topic. whos the guy from the 1st gundam that look like sex marquee?

[B Gundam]

Dubs, suck. There are *good* dubs, but most of them are done bad. Especially if you even change the names.

Tetsujin for example, had a detective change his name to "Dick Strong". The black tri-stars sound like hillbillies in the dubbed vesion of MSG and some people just sound gay in english or don't get the right tone.

It gets even worse when they reproduce the whole thing to make it "americanized", like Robotech or Voltron, which is simply downgrading the stuff more or less. Don't get me wrong, there is such a thing as a good original english Anime, Afro Samurai for example (for the fight scenes and Samuel L. Jackson as voice actor, the plot is as flat as a pancake). But if the original is japanese, its rather rarely adapted well when transfered to english.

In 90% of all cases, you got it english, you lose.

Gundam Unicorn? Can you tell us more about it, I know it is a novel, and there are rumors about an anime.
Sorry, novel only :(

[yoko.......]

ahhh that's call dubbing the only anime~ish that was made pure english was avatar and yet it is still under debate whether its an anime and almost anime that have a gra8 impact towards Televise/ing are made by Japan which are naturaly japanese offcourse.

READ THIS ONE VERY IMPORTANT FACT'S FOR YOU YOKO
In filmmaking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_production), dubbing or looping is the process of recording or replacing voices for a motion picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_picture). The term is most commonly used in reference to voices recorded that do not belong to the original actors and speak in a different language than the actor is speaking. "Dubbing" can also be used to describe the process of re-recording lines by the actor who originally spoke them. This process is technically known as automated dialogue replacement, or ADR.
Although dubbing is most common with film, television series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_series) are sometimes dubbed as well (mostly popular Hollywood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood) series and serialized Japanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan)anime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime) that have received foreign distribution). Foreign-language films and videos are often dubbed into the local language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language) of their target markets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_market) to increase their popularity with the local audience by making them more accessible.


any way on topic. whos the guy from the 1st gundam that look like sex marquee?

i know, i'm not a complete dumbass
still they have to find someone that fits to the persons body because then it'd look well odd, but still it realy doesn't matter what words you use dubbing,getting new voices whatever it means the same thing so who the **** care, i only speak english.

[B Gundam]

Oh really? Too bad the world isn't centered around you. Ergo, we don't the "****" care.

[yoko.......]

the world soon will be about me when i'm famous, but yea i know i'm awesome haa gosh you guys make me sound so bad lol ^^

[Bibi of the Blue Sea]

*sighs*
Well, to add a new voice to this thread, I must say that my favorite Gundam series is none other than the first one (as B Gundam states as the 1st series in the Gundam chronological order) Mobile Suit Gundam aka 0079. I have always loved the solid plotline and this is the only Gundam series that actually makes complete sense to me from start to finish (Wing has a lot of the same elements but it still lacks what 0079 has). As for being the original story, there are no expectations to know about the previous wars and since the story opens up with the start of the war, there are no missing elements. Thus making it the perfect (and rather long) war story. It has massive appeal to perhaps only old-school mecha/war anime lovers. I understand that the other series have a beginning and end to them but they all seem to copy (and turned cliche) the same-old stuff that 0079 captured perfectly. The best part of 0079 is that the story focuses on the war and the development of the characters. That is why MS Gundam is my favorite of all the Gundam series.

[dollmage]

well you see i realy hate some of the english dubbing they make most of the anime's they a tad to cheezy....but there are good ones we cant ignore that ........... any way on topic

from the 1st Gundam whos the guy that looks like the sex marquee............. kinda freaks me out a bit ^_~

[B Gundam]

That is Char Aznable! He is the original masked rival of gundam and the original "Red Rival" in japanese pop culture!

Char is one of the most popular Anime characters ever, when SEED Destiny was still new, he was still voted the most popular gundam character (banishing Kira to 2nd place) frequently despite being "old".

Later, various Gundam Rivals wear a mask just because he did, including Zechs, Cruuze, Neo, Ulube, Silver Crown, Carozzo, etc. as a "tradition".

But not only in Gundam does Char have an effect with his character! He has become the archetype of a rival/alternate hero character and his influence shows even in most popular games:

-Zero from Megaman Zero is blond like Char, wears red like Char and is the rival/alternate hero to Megaman.

-Ken from Street Fighter is blond like Char, wears red like Char and is the rival/alternate hero to Ryu.

-Final Fantasy:

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6141/charorseiferwo1.jpg

[dollmage]

is it the same guy with the helmet?

lol he does look like the guy from FF8 har har har

[Amuro112]

yea man old school is where its at
we need more amuro in action!!! with his hi nu gundam that guy is just god pilot among the gundam universe
i loved the rivalry amuro and char has against each other
then cooperated in Zeta then rival again in Char counter attack its quite intresting actually...
0079 - Zeta - Char counter attack
this 3 series prob was the best out of all gundam series

0080 war in the pocket is prob 1 of the most dramatic series in gundam universe

[International 4-8818]

Ah when gundam was good. Great clips B Gundam.

[Ikaruga]

To add another voice here on this thread, I agree with most of you guys.

Gundam back then was awesome, probably the best of it's time. I mean, with igLoo, we got some more old school fights and battles. Despite it's repetitive forumla, you watch it for the mechs.

B Gundam, sorry I gotta disagree with you on 0080 War in the Pocket being borderline, sure it's got Al, the annoying kid who's alll "OMG WAR IS SO COOL WICKED!". But looking past all that, we got the Hygogg, Zy'Gock Commanders type, Space GMs, Rick Dom IIs and the Kampfer.

The fights were good while they lasted, and the conclusion was pretty good, minus the Newtype pilots, Bernie was a hero taking on that NT Gundam.

I;m surprised there's no Gundam bashing here though, lol all the other forums are like "No way Wing/SEED/Destiny is way better than that old crap!", Gundam 0079 will always be the gem that started off the franchise..

Sieg Zeon!

[B Gundam]

Yes yes, Mikhail was awesome and I do not deny what was good about 0080, and Bernie has one of the most impressing death circumstances being rather unusual for most anime (its so sad it hurts thinking about it). I "only" put it on borderline (the borderline to the good side, not to he bad side) because Chris gets too less of the cake and they left out some potential here and there. Of course not as bad as how SEED left out tons of potential, not to mention Destiny. Besides, its my personal opinion there, I didn't really give it a rating or the like.

And yes there are usually a lot of W/SEED supporters, and since SEED and 00 are new now the W people are beginning to think they are old school (which will never happen simply because of G Gundam), but I've repelled some of the unreasonable ones with

this (http://www.animeforum.com/showthread.php?t=64293) (<= in fact, one of my 1st posts in this forum. I wanted to see how they react when restricted to reason instead of thrown in newb comments)

this (http://www.animeforum.com/showthread.php?t=65022)

and this (http://www.animeforum.com/showthread.php?t=67236)

(though the latter also lacks reason in some way, lol)

[Ikaruga]

Lol oh dear B Gundam.... Well you just have to be careful when you post sensitive material..

I'd admit, I got into Gundam originally through Wing, then I got into the Universal Century stuff and liked it better.

SEED wasn't too bad, I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I haven't seen Destiny yet, from what I heard it's really bad. I don't like the idea that a Gundam can be produced and given to so many "special" pilots, kinda defeats the point of a superior Mobile Suit?

If that was the case, the Ball Gundam wouldn't have been affective in A Bao A Qu against those Doms, eh B Gundam?

Crossbone Gundam is very awesome, playing with them in the G Generation series was fun.

[B Gundam]

Well its not like I'd blame you for getting in with W (I wouldn't even say so if you liked it over UC, thats your thing), I know it can be difficult with this kind of material in a community, but as you can see every series has a reasonable fanbase who won't just go "lawlz this rocks" and one of these threads prevailed itself until getting outdated.

And yes, Crossbone is awesome (gotta love the overkill Mura Blaster and the ABC cloaks just have style). Kudos for knowing the background to my name. But the "Crossboned" Doms did have aces deployed to attack Amuro (though they probably wouldn't have been all too successful), it was more a thing of pure luck against the 1st two.

As for G Gen, Spirits is the first one that had this difficulty level, I highly recommend it. Older G Gens usually had something you could abuse for easy wins making everything a cakewalk (like the move again after kill system from G Gen F).

[Amuro112]

i wish the old gundam creator give these new creator good ideas, because frankly the gundam we have now is not gundam at all.
gundam is half dead ever since wing came out.

anyway any1 of u guys watched turn A gundam and how was it?

[Ikaruga]

i wish the old gundam creator give these new creator good ideas, because frankly the gundam we have now is not gundam at all.
gundam is half dead ever since wing came out.

anyway any1 of u guys watched turn A gundam and how was it?

Personally, I'd say no. Unfortunately, Tomino is like a fountain not sprouting fresh water anymore.. I believe he even claimed to have wished he never created Gundam, or something along the lines.

We just need something different, Gundam 00 is slightly different, but we'll have to see how it progresses. I think we can't expect anything else that came with the old series anymore.

I've seen Turn A Gundam, and it's awesome. It's different from most Gundam series, and needs patience for it to turn out awesome. Think about it, the Gundam is not just a weapon anymore, keep that in mind.

[B Gundam]

Tomino is currently sprouting with Overman King Gainer XD.

It continues his untypicalness habit he had with the 1st Gundam, Ideon and Turn A

[MobilepoopGundam]

I love the older Gundams, currently own boxsets of 0079 and Zeta, Gundam F91(film) and Mobile Suit Gundam: chars counterattack(film)

ZZ Gundam should be arriving to my doorstep soon.

Anyone seen Victory Gundam by any chance?

[B Gundam]

Victory is kinda disappointing if you compare it to 0079, Z or CCA. But it does have its good sides.

[MobilepoopGundam]

Victory is kinda disappointing if you compare it to 0079, Z or CCA. But it does have its good sides.

Seems dark and depressing, i like that.