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black26
05-13-2007, 10:34 PM
for you who is the weakest captain??




for me it would be captain tousen

.Lovebeat
05-14-2007, 04:03 AM
Soi Fong... o.o can't really remember any good fighting scenes with her xD but that might be just me and my memory.

Also I'd say Unohana Retsu, she doesn't fight, but heal. But it shouldn't count as the "weakest" captain since healing is... awesome :x

FallenDevil
05-14-2007, 12:19 PM
Mayuri Kurotsuchi, although even though i hate it Hitsugaya is pretty weak as well

Slumber
05-14-2007, 02:49 PM
Probably, Retsu. She does have a very good power (healing), but it's not for fighting. The weakest one that actually does fights may be Mayuri. Granted, his fighting style doesn't seem to be based upon strenght.

WhatIsAUserName
05-15-2007, 01:21 AM
I would have to say Hitsugaya, based on the level of difficulty that it took him to just defeat one of the números. I mean, it wasn't actually difficult, but for a captain, it took way too much time. And his strongest attack, the ice prison, directly hit Luppi but didn't manage to kill him. Of course, Luppi wasn't fine, but he wasn't going to die anytime soon. Since that arrancar didn't really deserve to be the 6th Espada (more like the 9th or 10th), it shows to me that Hitsugaya's probably the weakest.

I would have to guess Soi Fon and Mayuri would be the next. I mean, we've never seen, say, Unohana battle, so we don't know if she's the weakest, or mid-tier, though I doubt she'd be along the lines of Byakuya or Ichimaru.

Hitsugaya389
05-20-2007, 02:58 PM
probally soi fong or the 8th

.:Shinigami:.
05-20-2007, 04:05 PM
Captain Mayuri and Soi Fong.
Mayuri only heals and really doesnt really have a zanpakto to fight with.
Soi Fong Because she was easilly beaten by Yoruichi.

xx_anime_luver_xx
05-20-2007, 06:38 PM
soi fon or tousen

Hollow Ichigo
05-20-2007, 08:49 PM
Sajin

UchihaHunter
05-20-2007, 08:51 PM
Soi Fong, weak?

She was moving at the same speed, no, faster than Yoruichi in the beginning, which means she's around Byakuya's speed, since Yoruichi pwned Byakuya in speed. In addition, she has a technique that makes her even more ownage and we haven't even seen her Bankai...

The weakest to me would be Kurotsuchi Mayuri. If you know what his Zanpaktou's abilities are, you could beat him. Of course, he had bad luck in meeting with the only person out of the protagonists that could move while paralyzed. Behind him, I would think Komamura, since he seems to be more of a new captain that relies primarily on brute force. I don't he could beat Kenpachi in a brute force match, and I don't think he has enough finesse/kidou prowess to defeat Soi Fong or Hitsugaya.

Hollow Ichigo
05-20-2007, 09:07 PM
Soifon OWNS EVERYONE IN SPEED. but Tousen is some what strong. If odnt have any sense what ca you do. And his soul slayer isnt his.

Slumber
05-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Soi Fon seems to fall into the same catagory as Mayuri; Their fighting styles aren't built around being physicly stronger than the opponent.

WhatIsAUserName
05-20-2007, 10:29 PM
Soi Fong, weak?

She was moving at the same speed, no, faster than Yoruichi in the beginning, which means she's around Byakuya's speed, since Yoruichi pwned Byakuya in speed. In addition, she has a technique that makes her even more ownage and we haven't even seen her Bankai...

The weakest to me would be Kurotsuchi Mayuri. If you know what his Zanpaktou's abilities are, you could beat him. Of course, he had bad luck in meeting with the only person out of the protagonists that could move while paralyzed. Behind him, I would think Komamura, since he seems to be more of a new captain that relies primarily on brute force. I don't he could beat Kenpachi in a brute force match, and I don't think he has enough finesse/kidou prowess to defeat Soi Fong or Hitsugaya.

Considering how Soi Fong didn't even use her bankai against Yoruichi, I would have to assume that she's not the person who can use it with relative ease, and it would have been even less effective against her enemies than shunko. And she also had an emotional breakdown, which is something that I can't quite remember seeing any other captain go through.

And Komamura actually impressed Zaraki when he broke the ground using the pressure of his zanpakuto alone, which speaks that it's not a feat that can easily be done. As for Soi Fong and Hitsugaya, I can only remember one time that the latter actually used a kido spell, and the former seems to be composed sheerly of hand-to-hand combat finesse, and nothing much besides it. I wouldn't put Komamura in the lower tiers of captains. I think he need a rematch with Zaraki; I would have to say that in their first fight, Komamura would have won.

This would have to be ranking of the weakest captains, from worst to best, based on what we've seen:

Hitsugaya
Soi Fong
Mayuri
Tousen
(I speculate that Kenpachi or Unohana goes here, but we haven't seen enough)

Fragile.Dreams
05-21-2007, 07:08 AM
Yeah I think Tousen is the weakest and he annoys me anyway.

But I do agree with WhatIsAUserName and the list they wrote.
:)

Wednesday
06-01-2007, 04:16 PM
Retsu, she is all deffencive.. nothing majorly cool about her.

sakushi12
06-05-2007, 11:47 PM
i think its Retsu because she only heals and i never saw her fight!

black26
06-18-2007, 05:49 AM
i also agree that Retsu and Toshiro are weak

Hollow Ichigo
07-05-2007, 09:36 PM
Kenpachi Zaraki Weak,


No NO he is one of the strongest captains even without his Shikai or bankai. He Owns Sajin and Tousen with both using bankai. For one he held his own against Ichigo and his endurance is something to be fearful of. Dont get me wrong he could hold a candle to Aizen or Yamamoto But he could come close to beating Jushiro and The other one the Lazy captian. Also Alot of people fear Retsu because of her power. So that tells us that she must be strong in some way. Mayuri is the weakest. He lost to Uyruu. Also Zaraki would just stad their and let byakuya hiit him with his shikai and bankai. he woyuld take the pain smile and cut into Sanbuzaku sending the petals flying everywhere. the only person that couls have a chance to KILL him is Yamamoto. so baciclyy Zaraki is in the ranks of the strongest not the weakest. Ichigo could own every captain but Aizen and Yamamoto.


Also the 8th weak Hell to the naw.

He is one of the Captains at use dual soul slayers. He uses flash steps and as Yamamoto said in his fight with the 8th and Jushiro he said.

"Wow one step and you made to their and back you have gotten stronger." So yeahif yamamoto said something like that to you it must mean something. It would take Byakuya about three steps but one flash step and you move from one place to about 70 miles away then yeah thats good.

Elysian Sunrise
07-05-2007, 09:59 PM
Probably Sajin or Tosen?

wakookaka
07-08-2007, 02:58 PM
Well obviously Unohana, but other than that Mayuri and Tousen. Also a little Hitsugaya unfortunately :x

hokiboshi
07-15-2007, 09:03 AM
Points on why Unohana Retsu is NOT the weakest captain
-she is a healer and as far as i know healers can do much more damage that pure fighters because they know how and where to hit people to get the desired effects (such as paralysis, quick fatigue etc)

-although her squad (4th squad:relief and medical specialists) is considered "weak" by other squads (11th squad in particular), she is respected (and feared by 11th squad people) by her subordinates.

-She was the first one to figure out where Aizen was hiding (even under the influence of Aizen's soul slayer)and was the first to realize that tousen was the only person who cannot be affected by the soul slayer's ability

As for me, the weakest would probably Hitsugaya Toushiro, why?
-he is too young and therefore he has not yet mastered his soul slayer (which has the reputation of being THE most powerful water-ice type soul slayer)

-He got beat by Aizen even in bankai mode (Aizen needed only one slash to take him down)

-he almost lost to arrancar #11 (Shaolong Qufang), and had to use his full power to win

CherryMei
07-19-2007, 06:14 AM
i agree with hokiboshi retsu is not the weakest captain it shoukd be tosen

Kurotsuchi Nemu
07-19-2007, 02:15 PM
yeah nobody has ever seen retsu fight so it would be her she's juat a healer
not a fighter

hokiboshi
07-19-2007, 07:59 PM
i'd rather not be in her way when she really does fight. because her fighting abilities are still a mystery and i can only speculate that her skills are comparable to Ukitake or Kyoraku taicho (besides, her healing abilities are legendary, so why shouldnt her fighting skills be?)

Hibiskiss
07-19-2007, 10:12 PM
Personally I think.....Tousen......

Kawairashii hikari
07-19-2007, 10:22 PM
i also say Tousen as well as Soi Fong

Interpreter
07-20-2007, 09:28 AM
Tousen only. I think the others are strong in their own way.

Anti-God
07-20-2007, 11:42 AM
Mayuri Kurotsuchi, although even though i hate it Hitsugaya is pretty weak as well

I agree with that. Mayuri, in my opinion, is definitely the weakest of the Captains. Taking a glimpse into his Shikai/Bankai abilities, I'm pretty certain we can all see why.

(( Spoilers ))

When Mayuri faced off against Ishida, he demonstrated the paralyzing effect of his shikai. That ability relies solely upon the chance of actually 'cutting' his opponent, which if one was to realize this ahead of time, could easily avoid it. Next off, we go into his Bankai. This 'monstrosity' spews a poisonous cloud into the air, that if inhaled, could prove fatal.

Any of the currently ranking Captains could undoubtedly blow that 'would-be' doom spelling cloud away with the simple brush of their spiritual force. I'll use Zaraki Kenpachi's battle with Ichinose to demonstrate this. Ichinose's rainbow-like dome that threatened to literally erase Zaraki from existence, was annihilated, simply on Kenpanchi's part by....powering.

Now we all know Zaraki's spiritual pressure is insanely powerful, but I wouldn't set the powers of the other Captains aside so easily. They ARE Captains after all.

As far as Toushiro goes.....I'm going to withhold my opinion for the time.

yunochii
07-21-2007, 01:17 AM
I would have to say Hitsugaya, based on the level of difficulty that it took him to just defeat one of the números. I mean, it wasn't actually difficult, but for a captain, it took way too much time. And his strongest attack, the ice prison, directly hit Luppi but didn't manage to kill him. Of course, Luppi wasn't fine, but he wasn't going to die anytime soon. Since that arrancar didn't really deserve to be the 6th Espada (more like the 9th or 10th), it shows to me that Hitsugaya's probably the weakest.

I would have to guess Soi Fon and Mayuri would be the next. I mean, we've never seen, say, Unohana battle, so we don't know if she's the weakest, or mid-tier, though I doubt she'd be along the lines of Byakuya or Ichimaru.

damn... toshirou hitsugaya is not weak!! his power/reiatsu or whatever you call that is just not in its full potential or immature because he's still young...hyorinmeru is cool, okay? and shirou-chan is not weak!!!!!!!
dAMN YOU...

Climaximus
07-21-2007, 01:28 AM
damn... toshirou hitsugaya is not weak!! his power/reiatsu or whatever you call that is just not in its full potential or immature because he's still young...hyorinmeru is cool, okay? and shirou-chan is not weak!!!!!!!
dAMN YOU........and you just said yourself right there the reason he's one of the weakest. He's still young, still has to master his bankai (as most of the other captains have already done, with the exception of Zaraki....not that he needs it anyway) and still has much potential to get stronger. But compared to the other captains, he is likely one of the weakest. No need to throw a fangirl fit over it

tomoyo_daidouji
07-21-2007, 10:47 PM
i don't really think that there is a "weak" captain...since they are all at the top of their own squads but if there would be a ranking based on strength.. i would say Captain Tousen kaname

Bleach00Luver
07-22-2007, 01:07 PM
maybe, tousen-taichou, or komamaru-taichou............

Hollow Ichigo
07-22-2007, 02:16 PM
Yes Sajin is one fo the weakest. He was beat with a destrution spell. COme on a cpatain coul have dodged that. he has a nice bankai but still. Man he sucks. Toshiro could beat him.

WhatIsAUserName
07-24-2007, 12:53 AM
What, are you kidding? Aizen brought down little Toshiro with one strike when the kid was in bankai. Yes, Hitsugaya went into his final release, and Aizen nearly sliced him in half. At least with Komamura, Aizen had to use a high-level kido spell.

Plus, Komamura is the guy who surprised Kenpachi in their fight when he unsheathed his sword and the mere spiritual pressure left visible marks on the ground. Yes, think of how many people managed to do that.

As for Tousen, his bankai wasn't great, but he happened to face the one opponent whom he couldn't scare with the "no senses" thing. Anybody else would have trouble. Plus, look at his initial release, a hail of (fine, they are inaccurate) needles that destroyed a tower in one blow. Compare that to the initial releases of Mayuri (worthless if you just stay away from him), Unohana (if the giant, flying manta ray is her bankai, she's pathetic), or Soi Fong (little fashion accessory, its abilities don't matter since she lacks uber-speed).

Now, granted, I wouldn't put Tousen in the ranks of Byakuya (who can be overrated at times) or, heck, Yamamoto. But he's not the weakest. I've said it once before. Unless Unohana or Soi Fong are discovered to be absolutely pathetic, yes, then the kid with the white hair is the weakest captain.

Despite, of course, all the fan girls protests. And I don't have anything against the guy either. Hitsugaya just needs more time. And a lot more experience.

hokiboshi
07-28-2007, 01:26 PM
true, aizen took out both hitsugaya and komamura without even breaking a sweat (as stated by other posts including mine) but when you think about it, he had less difficulty dealing with "little toushiro" even when he was in full force using his bankai (it took only one swift slice and BAM! he becomes a fountain of blood) and the poor little boy didn't even have a single attack that was successful (he mistakenly froze an illusion of aizen and there starts the downfall)

komamura on the other hand had successfully executed two attacks at aizen (even though aizen simply caught his massive sword and dodged that big armored arm that was crashing down on him), he had 2 attacks that may have knocked aizen out. before he could successfully call out his bankai, aizen took him out with demon magic # 90 (black coffin) so between these two people considered by most as "weak captains" i would have to say that komamura is the lesser of the two evils

as for tousen, he did have the misfortune of facing a guy who likes to get slashed for the sake of victory, but kempachi only did that move because he had no detection skills to help him locate his enemies (kinda like ichigo). if tousen would've faced an enemy who has excellent spirit force detection skills like byakuya (and an omni directional bankai)or mayuri (who's bankai emits a deadly poison that would kill an army and that little bag of tricks that he uses) he would have been toasted.

as for the two female captains, their full battle skills have not been shown yet, (this includes soi fong's bankai and unohana retsu's full capabilities) like that guy (WhatsIsSUserName) said, if they turn out to be pretty useless then from there we can pass out judgement (though between soi fong and unohana, id say unohana is the stronger one for reasons stated in one of my posts)