View Full Version : Has Tenchi Muyo ever confused you?
Jagan Eye
03-14-2007, 07:44 AM
When I was new to the series it confused me a lot. Firstly, Ryoki and
Ryo-oh-ki shouldn't have had such similar names and Ryoki didn't need a look a like. Now of course, I understand, but has Tenchi Muyo (any version) ever confused you?
Moonlight Dreamer
03-14-2007, 07:52 AM
No, It hasn't confused me until washu came in. I don't remember much of it.
philippine102
03-14-2007, 03:56 PM
Finally, someone who can bs Tenchi Muyo stuff with me!
alright, in Pretty Sammy, Sasami is apparently Tenchi's little sister, but how come in the end of the special Mihoshi special they're kissing romantically?
Has ANYONE ever wondered this?!
The $$60 Billion Man
03-14-2007, 07:37 PM
Me neither.
When I was new to the series it confused me a lot. Firstly, Ryoki and
Ryo-oh-ki shouldn't have had such similar names and Ryoki didn't need a look a like. Now of course, I understand, but has Tenchi Muyo (any version) ever confused you?
Um...Okay first- it's RYOKO and RYO-OKII. The only thing similar in the names is Ryo, which is in place of Oni. They are named that way because they were created off of the same stuff. The alien Mass, and they are sisters in that right.
Finally, someone who can bs Tenchi Muyo stuff with me!
alright, in Pretty Sammy, Sasami is apparently Tenchi's little sister, but how come in the end of the special Mihoshi special they're kissing romantically?
Has ANYONE ever wondered this?!
Second-The Pretty Sammy series and the Pretty Sammy in the OAV and in Universe are COMPLETELY different.
The Pretty Sammy series is it's own Tenchi spin-off, with it's own plot line and it's own issues where-Yes, Tenchi IS Sasami's brother.
Pretty Sammy in Mihoshi's Special in the OAV is a figment of Mihoshi's imagination created by her as she's telling the gang an old story of one of the greatest hiests that she was involved in. In that version *NONE* of the characters are related-and Mihoshi was merely using them to illistrate the people in the tale-because she couldn't reveal who the actual people were-or-she forgot their names...which is entirely possible. ¬¬
In the Universe version Pretty Sammy is Sasami's eyeview of a perfect world that she created when everyone messed around with Washu's new machine.
So, they are ALL different and have NOTHING to do with each other.
Korobi
04-06-2007, 10:54 AM
All of it confuses me O.o
I don't understand any of the relationships between Tenchi and everyone else.
MaruDashi
04-06-2007, 11:01 AM
All of it confuses me O.o
I don't understand any of the relationships between Tenchi and everyone else.
The only actual relation Tenchi has to anyone is that his grandfather was Ayaka's elder brother (if I remember correctly) and was supposed to marry her (kinda like in the Egyptian times). Which would make (if you really think about it) Ayaka and Sasami his great aunts.
Ryo-Okii was originally Ryoko's ship...and Ryoko came to earth because she was being chased by Ayaka (seeing as how Ryoko was a space pirate). Her "relation" with Tenchi is completly accidental. Washu is Ryoko's "mom" and blah, blah, blah
The only actual relation Tenchi has to anyone is that his grandfather was Ayeka's elder brother (if I remember correctly) and was supposed to marry her (kinda like in the Egyptian times). Which would make (if you really think about it) Ayeka and Sasami his great aunts.
Ryo-Okii was originally Ryoko's ship...and Ryoko came to earth because she was being chased by Ayaka (seeing as how Ryoko was a space pirate). Her "relation" with Tenchi is completly accidental. Washu is Ryoko's "mom" and blah, blah, blah
Actually-it was Yosho, Ayeka's half brother who chased Ryoko to Earth...but anyway--The weird thing about this series is EVERYONE Save for Mihoshi's partner Kiyone, is related to everyone else. It's a HUGE family tree.
mythroch
04-20-2007, 05:07 AM
i under stand each series as i see it. it isn't hard for me to muddle things out as i watch.
but what does confuse me is why each series has absoulitly no relation to any other.
(I understand Pretty Sammy is a spin-off with a mashup of magic-girl thrown in for good mesure.) but that don't explain universe, or even Tokyo as their storylines vary from the OVA.
(Havn't seen Tenchi Muyo: Ryo-oki yet so i hope it follows the origional story.) :p
Haine Rammsteiner
04-23-2007, 08:01 PM
Ryo-Oh-ki and Ryoki I do believe are the same, as from what I know. >__> But correct me if I'm wrong..xP
Shonijuri Mazombi
04-26-2007, 06:01 PM
yes i have been confused sometimes by tenchis actions once in a while mostly in his love life he never really makes a clear directions but i think thats whats keeps the story line going i havent seen the newest series tho hope to see it soon :)
Haine Rammsteiner
04-28-2007, 01:42 PM
Nah. It ain't confusing. But, one thing, I don't like how they ended it. - -;
Luzifer
04-28-2007, 09:01 PM
i under stand each series as i see it. it isn't hard for me to muddle things out as i watch.
but what does confuse me is why each series has absoulitly no relation to any other.
(I understand Pretty Sammy is a spin-off with a mashup of magic-girl thrown in for good mesure.) but that don't explain universe, or even Tokyo as their storylines vary from the OVA.
(Havn't seen Tenchi Muyo: Ryo-oki yet so i hope it follows the origional story.) :p
The author just decided to create parallel universes where the set up was slightly different but still quite similar. The author has a huge fascination with parallel universes as can be seen by the other work he wrote, Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventure which focuses on parallel universes.
The only tenchi muyos directly and conclusively continuating of the other is (i believe) the first and second OVAs where the second is a direct sequeal to the first.
kayura
05-15-2007, 04:15 PM
nope, not confusing. it was a pretty cool show. i watched it on cartoon network a few years back. FLCL. now that's confusing! but very fun to watch :D
Raine Arikado
06-13-2007, 05:12 PM
i under stand each series as i see it. it isn't hard for me to muddle things out as i watch.
but what does confuse me is why each series has absoulitly no relation to any other.
(I understand Pretty Sammy is a spin-off with a mashup of magic-girl thrown in for good mesure.) but that don't explain universe, or even Tokyo as their storylines vary from the OVA.
(Havn't seen Tenchi Muyo: Ryo-oki yet so i hope it follows the origional story.) :p
hey i'm new here but here goes. i have seen two series thet do kinda tie into each other. the ryo-ohki series and the gxp series. (if you havn't seen them this next part is a spoiler) at the end of the ryo-ohki series on the last episode they make a mention about seina and fuku. who are from the gxp series.
nope, not confusing. it was a pretty cool show. i watched it on cartoon network a few years back. FLCL. now that's confusing! but very fun to watch :D
i really don,t see how you find it confusing unless you,ve had to jump aroun with the episodes. i hate to say it but imyself have had to do that and never really got too confused. and yes furi kuri is confusing, but it is an awsome show.
Variados
06-14-2007, 10:18 AM
Yes... Tenchi GXP... I do not get it.
onigiri princess
06-14-2007, 10:27 AM
Well at the beginning with ryoko and tenchi, I understood the story, but when all the other girls such as the princess’s and the space police girls came in, to be honest I was quite lost in the story line, I never actually finished watching it but I remember the thing about the jewels on ryoko’s wrist and tenchi’s sword, but other than that it’s good anime and the story is not that bad, it’s quite interesting.
mikex1337
06-14-2007, 10:54 AM
When I was new to the series it confused me a lot. Firstly, Ryoki and
Ryo-oh-ki shouldn't have had such similar names and Ryoki didn't need a look a like. Now of course, I understand, but has Tenchi Muyo (any version) ever confused you?
ZOMG, I've been thinking the same thing about Ryoki and Ryo-oh-ki's names. Even the most ambiguous of authors don't do that to their readers. :unsure:
ZOMG, I've been thinking the same thing about Ryoki and Ryo-oh-ki's names. Even the most ambiguous of authors don't do that to their readers. :unsure:
It's RYOKO and RYO-OKI. RYOKO has NO I. x.x
Haine Rammsteiner
07-05-2007, 10:43 PM
Indeed. Ryoko and Ryo-Oh-Ki. Ryoko has NO 'I' in her name like the post above has stated. Though..I do believe in some places there are different spellings of certain names. You cannot always jump to conclusions.
Caoimhe
07-08-2007, 01:08 PM
I got a Tenchi Muyo box set for Christmas.
"The Complete Ova Series"
Which includes episodes 1-13 and the Mihoshi special...
I understood it all perfectly (Or so I think lol) but the bit that confuses me is where the hell do I go from there. I can't follow which episodes/movies/whatever the hell I'm supposed to watch next!
This always happens me with anime x_x
Anyone wanna point me in the right direction, 'cause I'm purdy lost ='[
Haine Rammsteiner
07-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Well, now that I think about it, it was sorta confusing again at first. =/ When I had first seen the few commercials, I was totally..like..what the hell is THAT? So yeah. =o
I got a Tenchi Muyo box set for Christmas.
"The Complete Ova Series"
Which includes episodes 1-13 and the Mihoshi special...
I understood it all perfectly (Or so I think lol) but the bit that confuses me is where the hell do I go from there. I can't follow which episodes/movies/whatever the hell I'm supposed to watch next!
This always happens me with anime x_x
Anyone wanna point me in the right direction, 'cause I'm purdy lost ='[
After the OAV series you want to move onto the Ryo-Ohki series that they're pushing out. The Ryo-Ohki series is the continuation of the OAV.
None of the movies are off of the OAV, they're all based off of Universe and Tenchi in Tokyo.
Haine Rammsteiner
07-22-2007, 07:39 PM
o_O.. All this is news to me. Though, it may be a continuation, I don't think it'd be the same.
ParaParaJMo
07-23-2007, 09:52 AM
I believe Manatsu no Eve/Daughter of Darkness, the 2nd movie is more in sync with the OAV continuity.
o_O.. All this is news to me. Though, it may be a continuation, I don't think it'd be the same.
Of course it won't be the same...It's a continuation that came about a good ten years after the fact. But-a continiuation it is. It finally finishes the Goddess Tokimi story line.
I believe Manatsu no Eve/Daughter of Darkness, the 2nd movie is more in sync with the OAV continuity.
If that was the case the Mihoshi's GP partner Kiyone wouldn't be involved in the Masaki household. And she was. So it's not.
animeotaku15
07-24-2007, 12:24 AM
Tenchi Muyo always seemed to confuse me because the storyline would always change. Like, the way Tenchi originally met the girls changes in some series. But, nonetheless, I liked the show. I think it was the second or third anime that I watched. Hmmm, memories.....
Haine Rammsteiner
07-25-2007, 02:47 AM
... That was confusing. That. Right there.
canta per me
08-03-2007, 09:43 PM
I can't say that Tenchi Muyo has ever really confused me. Maybe there were a few times I didn't not agree with the story line and how things happened, but there is nothing I can do about that. Overall I really like the Tenchi series, its one of my all time favorites.
Haine Rammsteiner
08-06-2007, 04:34 PM
Well. We can't always agree with what happens in an anime/manga.
animeotaku15
08-13-2007, 05:51 PM
Exactly. It's the creator's brain.
Haine Rammsteiner
08-14-2007, 05:09 PM
Exactly. It's the creator's brain.
Hn.. :/ I'd agree with that. To dislike a certain anime/manga also is to discriminate the creator's mind.
VraieEsprit
08-16-2007, 07:48 AM
The OVA 3 confuses me. I don't understand some of the wild changes in continuity or the sudden and random information dumps that it seems to incorporate :S Why Mihoshi's brother is suddenly deserving of more air time than Ayeka bewilders me totally...and Noike...aside from an attempt to be a Kiyone substitute, I don't understand the need for her at all...
Otherwise, no. It's fairly easy to follow, so long as you know which continuity which show/series/film belongs to (if any!) That can be confusing if you happen to see random episodes and you don't know which are OVA or TV series or Shin TV series or whatever...
Ryouko and Ryou-ou-ki have similar names because they start with the same kanji, that's all. In Japanese, the names don't look that similar - the first character is the same but otherwise not. It seems to happen a lot in Japanese, with names sounding similar but using such different Kanji...they don't seem to mind too much if names sound alike :)
Manatsu No Eve is in conjunction with the OVA 1 as a continuity. The lady who wrote the novels of which MNE is one was the screenplay writer for the OVA 1. She and Kajishima-san parted ways after that. So the OVA 2 goes off on a different route.
But it is based on the OVA continuity. Kiyone was introduced and created by Hasegawa in her novels, and this seems to be the reason she doesn't appear in the OVA series at all.
Vraie
Haine Rammsteiner
08-16-2007, 05:40 PM
The OVA 3 confuses me. I don't understand some of the wild changes in continuity or the sudden and random information dumps that it seems to incorporate :S Why Mihoshi's brother is suddenly deserving of more air time than Ayeka bewilders me totally...and Noike...aside from an attempt to be a Kiyone substitute, I don't understand the need for her at all...
Otherwise, no. It's fairly easy to follow, so long as you know which continuity which show/series/film belongs to (if any!) That can be confusing if you happen to see random episodes and you don't know which are OVA or TV series or Shin TV series or whatever...
Ryouko and Ryou-ou-ki have similar names because they start with the same kanji, that's all. In Japanese, the names don't look that similar - the first character is the same but otherwise not. It seems to happen a lot in Japanese, with names sounding similar but using such different Kanji...they don't seem to mind too much if names sound alike :)
Manatsu No Eve is in conjunction with the OVA 1 as a continuity. The lady who wrote the novels of which MNE is one was the screenplay writer for the OVA 1. She and Kajishima-san parted ways after that. So the OVA 2 goes off on a different route.
But it is based on the OVA continuity. Kiyone was introduced and created by Hasegawa in her novels, and this seems to be the reason she doesn't appear in the OVA series at all.
Vraie
Hm.. I think it's half the time that the OVA and the OVA continuity's are most of the time more confusing for some people if they haven't been up to date with the manga and anime. Though, honestly, those events did occur, some people may not know WHY they occurred and such. And that is probably because they haven't seen previous episodes. x_X
VraieEsprit
08-17-2007, 03:52 AM
The Tenchi Muyou manga has nothing to do with the anime as far as I'm aware - it's all spinoff material but none of it is actually canon, since TM began as an anime and not as a manga. I do know that the SHIN novels are considered canon (although I have a few issues with that myself, since the...er...I think it's Yosho's talks about him and Ayeka being engaged when he's twelve and she's four, though in the OVA 1 anime Yosho is clearly fully grown when Ayeka is that age...).
To be honest the truth of it is the OVA series has changed pathways many times. Some original sources hint that in the beginning Tenchi was meant to end up with Ryoko and that's the impression you get from the Manatsu No Eve book which was written as I said by Hasegawa Naoko. There's always been some rumour that the difference in creative opinion that stopped Hasegawa and Kajishima from working together on TM! was to do with that, but I don't know if it's true.
The OVA 1 and 2 are stellar series, particularly OVA 1. The OVA 3...I think it's a shame to be honest that Kajishima seemed to have decided to go down the route of trying to show that Makibi Kiyone was not his character. The series spends too long "replacing" her with Noike, then fleshing out Noike to try and make her believable, rather than focusing on the original character relationships and furthering their development in the plot. The introduction of Z is also very random - he has such potential as a character but not long enough to really develop in any way. His flashback information is not really as relevant as it could be - there's a lot of weird stuff like that in the third OVA which seems to me to be a sad waste of screen time.
I'm not an Ayeka fan but I felt really sad when I saw OVA 3 and realised how much she'd been marginalised in particular. Ryoko at least had a part to play...but Ayeka might as well have been the wallpaper for all she mattered :S
The OVA 3 has some good themes but they're often wasted in the pursuit of Noike's development and other irrelevances like Makibi Mashisu and Kuramitsu Misao.
And the continuity things do bother me...particularly Tenchi's mother. Because if she's the age they say she is, and she died of old age...why is it that her father - living on the same planet, with the same Juraian blood - is still very much alive?
There are too many illogical things like that and I have a bad habit of thinking too hard about them - I don't think I ever just sit and watch a show and accept what's on the screen without thinking about it. Perhaps that makes me hyper-picky, I don't know. But even so, it is a shame the OVA went down that path.
It just shows a distinct lack of prioritising in my opinion. That's all. I suppose that's the confusion for me. Not the plot itself, but why certain themes and characters were given so much expansion times when so many of the original plots and themes were pushed aside :S
Vraie
Trident_Spear
08-24-2007, 07:35 PM
The Tenchi Muyou manga has nothing to do with the anime as far as I'm aware - it's all spinoff material but none of it is actually canon, since TM began as an anime and not as a manga.It's not canon because different guys worked on it and that the manga contradicts the later story in the anime.
Something being of a different medium does not automatically disqualify it from one continuity or another. The Matrix movies and the extensions of those stories in other formats by those guys can attest to this.
To be honest the truth of it is the OVA series has changed pathways many times. Some original sources hint that in the beginning Tenchi was meant to end up with RyokoCitation please or is this another made up fact?
I'm not an Ayeka fan but I felt really sad when I saw OVA 3 and realised how much she'd been marginalised in particular.As opposed to how much she has been marginalized in all the other series.
As an Aeka fan, I was happy to hear she has been shown as a loving older sister so when I do watch it, I think it will come out that the people who don't even like her character will have overexaggerated what OAV "did to her."
And the continuity things do bother me...particularly Tenchi's mother. Because if she's the age they say she is, and she died of old age...why is it that her father - living on the same planet, with the same Juraian blood - is still very much alive?Without Jurain water, Jurains die of old age. Aeka discussed this with Yosho in episode 5, Funaho with Yosho in episode 13 - it's not news, when Jurains don't drink their water, they age and die. Maybe this was the case. Jurains can refuse to drink Jurain water and die. I'm not even sure why Kiyone died or where this came up?
But did Ayeka believe Yosho was old because she was a complete idiot and believed in something that cannot happen? Also, Yosho did not die because Ryoko's gems were keeping him alive, something he only found out by surprise. He said this to Funaho directly. It's in the anime itself!
Perhaps that makes me hyper-picky, I don't know.Selective memory is indeed a dangerous thing.
Haine Rammsteiner
08-24-2007, 11:08 PM
It's not canon because different guys worked on it and that the manga contradicts the later story in the anime.
Something being of a different medium does not automatically disqualify it from one continuity or another. The Matrix movies and the extensions of those stories in other formats by those guys can attest to this.
Citation please or is this another made up fact?
As opposed to how much she has been marginalized in all the other series.
As an Aeka fan, I was happy to hear she has been shown as a loving older sister so when I do watch it, I think it will come out that the people who don't even like her character will have overexaggerated what OAV "did to her."
Without Jurain water, Jurains die of old age. Aeka discussed this with Yosho in episode 5, Funaho with Yosho in episode 13 - it's not news, when Jurains don't drink their water, they age and die. Maybe this was the case. Jurains can refuse to drink Jurain water and die. I'm not even sure why Kiyone died or where this came up?
But did Ayeka believe Yosho was old because she was a complete idiot and believed in something that cannot happen? Also, Yosho did not die because Ryoko's gems were keeping him alive, something he only found out by surprise. He said this to Funaho directly. It's in the anime itself!
Selective memory is indeed a dangerous thing.
En. Honestly I shall say this now. No matter what they are, they are only animes. If they are confusing, don't watch them or read the mangas if you cannot understand. Because one point leads to another and you will only become more confused.
Trident_Spear
08-24-2007, 11:25 PM
It's anime I'm addicted to for the last 2 years:)
I think the major storylines are easy to keep track of.
Spiffy!
10-17-2007, 10:28 PM
I was actually really young when I was watching it, on cartoon network's toonami. So yeah, it did confuse me for the most part because I never really knew what was going on. I liked it anyway and stuck with watching the show until it didn't show anymore. haha
FelineBoy
10-18-2007, 09:14 AM
When I was younger, watching it confused me. Now, I understand it, but it still makes no sense.
Call me stupid, but is it just me or is Tenchi GXP a completely different storyline from every other one? Sure seems that way.
Rose_Of_Darkness
10-21-2007, 04:59 AM
yea it did confuse me at first. like is tenchi inlove with Aiaka or Ryoko?
Gaarademon
10-25-2007, 09:37 AM
when I first started watching it....it confused me
Riaru_Buruma
12-07-2007, 08:35 PM
i remember when i watching in on toonami i was so confused, probably because they cut it so much. i just resently got all the boxsets and i understood it completely.
Riaru_Buruma
12-07-2007, 08:39 PM
Because if she's the age they say she is, and she died of old age...why is it that her father - living on the same planet, with the same Juraian blood - is still very much alive?
i thought she died from a sickness?
VraieEsprit
12-12-2007, 07:16 AM
In the OVA 3 it's clearly stated that she just died of old age. ^_^.
OVA 3 is shot to hell full of holes though, so I guess that's just gonna be another one...
GXP is a spinoff based in the OVA universe, but to be more accurate it's based in the OVA3 universe where all bets are off regarding continuity *lol* :)
Shinigami Hilde
12-23-2007, 02:25 AM
yea it did confuse me at first. like is tenchi inlove with Aiaka or Ryoko?
Niether. Tenchi never falls in love with ANY of the rampent alien chicks that invade his house.
None of the series' ever confused me...The manga was a spin off from the OAV. Universe, Tokyo, Pretty Sammy, GXP and the OAV were all in their own "universes" and had nothing to do with one another in reality. Though the OAV 2 is supposed to be the ending continuation of the original OAV.
bri_hime7
01-16-2008, 02:53 PM
Here's a site that might help:
http://www.astronerdboy.com/tenchi/
I once found another site that had a more in-depth timeline, but this site is very good too. (^^) In fact, you can find a timeline if you click on Section 3 -> Articles.
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